The Gungeon

[Tuesday Afternoon]

23 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
	Official Name of This Group
	2 (9%)
	Term of Endearment
	3 (13%)
	Mild Insult
	3 (13%)
	takes too long to type GC&RKBA
	0 (0%)
	makes it hard for new members to find their way around
	0 (0%)
	all of the above
	14 (61%)
	none of the above
	0 (0%)
	some combination of above
	1 (4%)
	out of left field OTHER
	0 (0%)
	women liked to be called cowboys
	0 (0%)
	0 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[ProgressiveProfessor]

1. Mild insult

What if some of the other groups were called Gayeon or Femigeon?

[krispos42]

7. People who hate the idea of a LGBT Group or Forum get tombstoned.

People who hate the idea of a Guns Group get a big fat "meh".





This group is one of the few on DU where a member can express opinions in favor of either side... and some people hate that.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

9. She who should not be named got away with things here for years

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It was not until she pulled the same crap in Feminism and LGBT groups that she was cashiered. I did not make her list on her vanity site...almost feel slighted.`

On edit, I did get mentioned on her vanity site...http://feministshosts.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?pid=112#p112

[Tuesday Afternoon]

11. another most excellent point

I thought I saw a post about you over there PP ....

http://feministshosts.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?pid=112#p112
post #16


Sometimes it's hard to know which list somebody goes on.

ProgressiveProfessor
(don't they pick such cute names for themselves?? I think this one is a professor of computer repair, from what I've gathered, and the "progressive" may refer to its taste in music, but certainly not to anything else)

Gun troll, or stupid person?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?c … ;pid=99826

Two mints in one!

Don't let the fact that the bulk of this one's recent posts haven't been in Guns fool you:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101728424
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1038377#post1
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101718909#post11


Anyhow, where the fuck this "paralegal" noise came from has always had me baffled; I assume our "professor" here has got it from the dank, dark right-wing gun-militant corners of the internet where it circulates, and where DU's gun assholes spend their lives. A person with an undergraduate arts degree and a professional degree in law, who has been called to the bar and admitted to practice as a solicitor, doesn't generally decide to go be a paralegal. Paralegals do conveyancing and maybe the odd bit of research. That's not what I have ever said I do.

It's so simple. I was a lawyer; I practised law. I am no longer a lawyer; I no longer practise law. I work on contract, partly for the government, doing something else, and what I do involves reading reams and reams of law, public policy analysis, public and interest group opinion about public policy, and stuff like that, day in and day out, and often late into the night.

That's all I've ever said, and it's what I've always said.

Believe it or not; I couldn't care less. But don't make shit up, 'k? It just makes you look like ... a liar.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

30. She was cagey and at times inconsistent with what she posted

Over time she said she was in the legal biz and elsewhere claimed not to be a lawyer. Same thing about her politics, finances, etc.

She goaded many but also had her own hot buttons. I forgot a capitalization and it got past the spell checker once and you would have thought I had assassinated POTUS from the ruckus she raised.

It is interesting to see that she has access to Meta, which is supposed to be closed to non-members. Also other DU members appear to be posting at her vanity site as well.

[gejohnston]

31. now I know where I can

continue my "how to cuss worse than a sailor" (BTW, why do sailors get such a bad rap for drinking, cussing, and blowing money away on bullshit? But I digress)
What did she have against lesbians and trans-gendered?

[ProgressiveProfessor]

32. Dunno

Hard to tell what reality she thought she was in some times.

[gejohnston]

33. so much for dialog

http://feministshosts.boardhost.com/register.php

Does Ontario's Medicare cover mental health?
http://feministshosts.boardhost.com/search.php?action=show_24h

[Glaug-Eldare]

34. "BTW, why do sailors get such a bad rap for drinking, cussing, and blowing money away on bullshit?"

Because we do. A lot.

[Eleanors38]

72. Within some circles of the lesbian community, there

Is supposed to be opposition to inclusion of transgendered folks. That wouldn't explain hostility to both, however.

[PavePusher]

14. Holy SHIT......!

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Talk about your Shrieking Rage-, Self-loathing Intolerance- and Self-righteous Indignant Poutrage-in-an-Echo Chamber Syndrome.

I need a long, hot shower after briefly skimming there.

Ick.

Edit: Heh, apparently I hold a special place in her heart, bless her...

Double-ick.

[era veteran]

27. Wow, there is some rage there.

[rl6214]

54. Should I feel honored (or should it be honoured) that I made her site?

[gejohnston]

55. Not sure if I should be honored or what

BTW, what was her point? Isn't a diary cheaper?

[rl6214]

59. But then she wouldn't have an audience if she just wrote in a diary

This way she gets to look at the number of views and tell herself she is important.

[Common Sense Party]

77. It doesn't matter to her that 98.7% of her "readers" are there just to mock her?

[DWC]

63. I have been away for a few weeks

and on my return this is the first thread I opened.

This news concerning a change in our membership is like Christmas in May.

Semper Fi,

[pipoman]

64. After having been absent from the gungeon

I was not aware of her demise..

I will miss her, I have a bit of an abrasive streak..not even close to hers..and could appreciate her view point and especially her arguing skills..RIP

Edit, I guess it's too late for "RIP"

[Eleanors38]

71. Hit that bull's eye 3X @ 100 yds.

[fern]

70. yes

[Tuesday Afternoon]

78. where did you find this old gem?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

10. excellent point.

[brewens]

2. Mild insult, but I don't care who ya are, at there's funny! LOL n/t

[Tuesday Afternoon]

12. ha! Do I amuse you ;-)

[Glaug-Eldare]

3. I don't really use the term, but I like it

even if it might be considered insulting. Can't take the pee, get out the pee-ery.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

13. Why should 2A be the toilet of DU3?

[Glaug-Eldare]

18. Can't take the hogwash, get out the hogwashery

[Tuesday Afternoon]

21. I am just tired of people dishing it out and then Alerting when they get it back

why should some get hidden posts and the instigator walk away scot free and then go brag all over DU about how they have a clean slate and then if they check TOS the Admin look at that.

[Upton]

4. Yeah, it a mild insult..

but really..who cares? I'm not into this word police garbage. I've even use the term myself..

[Tuesday Afternoon]

23. so then -- you vote to change the name officially to The Gungeon...

right

[NewMoonTherian]

5. Depends on who's saying it.

Only Gungeon regulars are allowed to call it the Gungeon. That's our word.

Seriously, though, it might be an insult, but it doesn't bother me. I use it. Maybe it's a little bit of mildly self-deprecating humor? I always read it as more a commentary on the decorum than the subject matter.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

16. the decorum --- BINGO!

we were abused for so long in here.


I am all for humor but the instigating and agitating and irritating ....

Well, now that the head of the snake is gone . . .

[NewMoonTherian]

22. Who, Iverglas?

I didn't mind her. She came up with some fairly intriguing arguments sometimes, just couched in obnoxious language. Hoyt and BongBong are more inflammatory than I ever saw her being. Then again, I'm comparatively pretty new here.

I think our more brash denizens reflect well on us, to be honest. Our skin is thick enough that we can mix it up with them and debate on the merits of our ideas, without being too sensitive about the name-calling.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

25. Naming Names --- good! calling it like you see it. Good! I agree -- there are worse here now

than Iver was and at least Iver had nuggets of wisdom sometimes in between all the vile BS.

can't say as much for these other two you named.

[NewMoonTherian]

29. If we're being real...

I wouldn't come here nearly as much if it weren't for them. Other gun forums are so vastly pro-gun, there's no provocative discussion taking place. At least we can count on a difference of opinion here.

[Kaleva]

35. A good back and forth makes this place interesting.

[-..__...]

6. Insulting to whom?

"Gun nuts"/gun militants/2nd amendment advocates?

"Gun grabbers"/hoplophobes/restrictionists?

Since both sides post/have their say in this forum, the label/stigma/insult (assuming one feels that way about it), applies to all.

As one on the side of firearms ownership, I don't feel singled by the slight.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

17. what about New Members trying to find their way to this group?

How easy is it to find something that is not listed?

[krispos42]

8. I'd like to hear members express alternatives to the official group name.

If we can find a catchy one, we can petition for a name change.

[Kaleva]

15. How about call it what most everybody already does?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

20. don't you think most voters in this poll agree that is a Mild Insult? are you sure you want to

be known by a Mild Insult?

just asking.....

as for me, I just want something official that we can all agree and that New Members will not have a problem finding.

[Kaleva]

24. An insult is only effective if it actually does insult the intended target.

While some here in DU may intend it to be a mild insult, the actual effect is another matter.

I use it because it's easier to type then the official name and pretty much everyone knows what the "gungeon" is.

Edit: And I think that regardless of what other name is chosen or if the actual official name is kept, this will still be called the "gungeon" by most.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

26. sorry, New Members do NOT know where is The Gungeon. No such thing exists. Otherwise, I agree with

your post.

[Kaleva]

36. True, newbies might be confused at first.

A little story.

When I was in the navy, I was at a base (can't remember which one now as it's been awhile) where sailors would cut across open areas to get where they needed to go. The paths were well worn. Then the base put in sidewalks in that area but the sailors kept using the dirt paths. Soon there were signs warning to keep off the grass and stay on the sidewalks but these were ignored.

The base should have put the sidewalks where the paths were instead of essentially wasting money and trying to fight a losing battle.

Keeping the name of Gun Control & RKBA or changing it to a another will not keep most everyone here at DU from calling this group "The Gungeon".

[sarisataka]

37. Did you have those sailors

Going around trying to locate a bucket of cavitation?

[Kaleva]

38. We sent them to get relative bearing grease, 20' of chowline and bulkhead remover.

Or have them stand mail buoy watch.

On my first ship, an ET was sent down in the holes to ask for a BT punch. The snipes who worked down there were BTs (Boiler Technicians). The clueless ET asks the first BT he sees for a BT punch and of course, he gets punched. Mad, the ET yells at the BT and demands a BT punch. The poor ET got the shit beat out of him by all the BTs there.


In boot camp I got assigned earthquake watch once because I had pissed of the Recruit Company Commander for some forgotten reason. I had to stand facing the bulkhead with my nose touching the wall. If an earthquake happened and the wall started to shake, I was to do an about face and yell "Earthquake! Earthquake!". There aren't very many earthquakes in Orlando, Florida.

[sarisataka]

39. Go Navy

Semper Fi my Sea Brother

[krispos42]

56. *snort*

"relative bearing grease"

[SGMRTDARMY]

66. I love it

my brother went through boot in San Diego and then went on to become a Seabee. Some of the stories he told me about the pranks pulled on him had me rolling on the ground laughing.

[Kaleva]

67. If you could remember some of those stories....

and of you got some of your own, I love to hear them!

Have a thread in the Lounge where vets tell such stories.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018123464

[Callisto32]

40. Have to disagree, here.

The base should have let people continue what they were doing and saved the $12K/Paving brick, or whatever ridiculous government price they paid to install the sidewalk that apparently was so not needed that people ignored it.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

19. got any ideas?

[krispos42]

57. Nothing short and sweet.

"Gungeon" is two syllables. Anything that's descriptive turns into a hideously long multi-syllabic thing that people won't say, much less type or even abbreviate.

"Gun Group" probably isn't specific enough, as it would imply sport and recreational shooting topics as well as gun politics and self-defense. Although most people that don't call it the Gungeon just call it the "Guns Group" or "Guns Forum".

If we go with anything, we should just call it "Guns Group" and leave it at that.

I don't want to go with some stupid name like "Armed Citizen Group" or "2nd Amendment Group".

[Tuesday Afternoon]

61. Lately, I have heard The Cesspool bandied about where so-called pro gun progressives

trash progressives.

yeah. right.

[krispos42]

62. You mean where anti-gun progressive trash other progressives?

[rrneck]

28. It's a mild insult.

But mild enough to be embraced by the gunnies. As in, "C'mon down to the gungeon and bring a silver platter for your ass when we hand it back to you". This is a scary place for the unicorn and rainbow anti gun bunch.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

45. then, by all means. let us make it official. The Gungeon. works for me. any opposed?

[rrneck]

46. Well, the term is slang

and I'm not aware of any other forum or group titled with slang. But I don't know if that's an issue. If everybody else wants to I'm good with it. Hell, may be we'll start a trend.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

47. Trendsetters R us!

[Kaleva]

58. We-R-Guns!

[DanTex]

41. It's an amusing and fitting nickname.

It's a place to discuss gun issues, and also it's infested with trolls and right-wing propaganda like you don't see in other areas of DU. "gun" + "dungeon" = "gungeon".

[holdencaufield]

75. You're half right

"... it's infested with trolls" -- just not the right-wing kind

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

42. re: takes too long to type GC&RKBA

Just pointing out that "GC&RKBA" and "Gungeon" both have 7 characters.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

44. but, which one can you type faster?

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

48. my choice would be...

...gc/rkba. No shift key involvement.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

49. heh

2a is even faster and my personal fave but, I know it will never stand a chance

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

50. fine by me

[Eleanors38]

73. 2A as well. Some folks might stumble in, wondering what means.

[Kaleva]

43. Going off topic but am wondering if the SOP could be changed...

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so that the discussion of guns could be allowed here? As it is right now, one must post such topics in the Outdoor Life group which gets very little traffic.

While i don't post here that much, I do drop in often to read and I'd find discussions about guns to be very interesting. There's many here who must have a wealth of experience.

[Eleanors38]

74. Agree. Maybe a code differentiating threads could be used.

[Logical]

51. I dont care what anyone calls it. Does not impact how I feel. n-t

[Tuesday Afternoon]

52. I understand however when it is discussed in official capacity it is confusing to new members.

People are being directed to The Gungeon and no such place exists.

[rl6214]

53. Of course it's meant to be an insult

[Tuesday Afternoon]

60. yes, I believe it started out that way but, it seems we 2Aers have the knack of

embracing taunts and actually laughing about them and then carrying on with laying out facts and statistics. Perhaps other groups on DU are not as adept at this.

[pipoman]

65. Reminds me of the "Jayhawker"

of my state. Jayhawk was a name attached to pro-Union fighters prior to/during the Civil War as an insult by the Missouri Confederate sympathizers. Of coarse the Jayhawk is a symbol of Kansans (and KU) to this day.

Gungeon was started and repeated by pro-control DUers who wanted the Gungeon to go away and pro-2nd Democrats to be stifled and banned if they dare take the pro-2nd position...now it is a term of endearment.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

68. to the point that we want to make it the ofiicial Name of the Group?

[Eleanors38]

76. I would go with Gungeon in the interest of hominy.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

69. so far, Five People have shown that they have an obvious issue with facts

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else they need to explain what is the definition of Official . . .