From prison, Cunningham pleads for his gun rights

[safeinOhio]

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/may/26/prison-cunningham-pleads-his-gun-rights/


SAN DIEGO — Just months away from being released from federal prison, former Congressman Randy “Duke” Cunningham of Rancho Santa Fe wrote to a federal judge earlier this month asking help to get his rights to carry a gun restored.

He wrote he would be in a remote part of the state and “not much threat from people but they do have a lot of black bears, cougars, and a history of rabies.” He asked the judge to act to restore his rights, or at the least, “endorse” Cunningham’s bid to restore them.

But the judge noted that since 1992 Congress has not appropriated funds for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) to do the background investigations for felons applying for the waiver.

In the letter, a forlorn sounding Cunningham, now 70, complains he is broke and after he is released to a halfway house will have to live on $1,700 per month. He referred to his decorated military career, too.


One can live pretty good on $1,700 in the remote part of that state. Most likely put in the top 10% of incomes.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

[ellisonz]

1. What a whiner...

[Glaug-Eldare]

2. I don't think he would present a danger to public safety,

but if it was up to me I'd leave him high and dry. He can claim his innocence all he wants, but unless he can back it up with new evidence, he's been convicted of defrauding the American people and stabbing them in the back. Corruption by public officials is one of very few crimes I'd almost like to retain the death penalty for. Some non-violent offenders would have my support on this, but Duke? Let the black bears have him.

[Hoyt]

14. Bitter, 70 year old con men with a gun are a danger.

[SGMRTDARMY]

15. Could you please tell us what the danger is?

[Hoyt]

16. I forget, some of you don't mind someone using their guns to intimidate. What's the purpose of

having one, otherwise. {sarcasm thingy}

[SGMRTDARMY]

17. How come you never answer a question?

All you do is just disparage honest law abiding citizens who chose to CCW.

Just for the record, I have NEVER intimidated anyone with my firearm which, by the way, I do carry every day.

[Hoyt]

18. Grandpa in original post was law-abiding too, as were Zimmerman, Loughner and plenty of others.

An old fool, perhaps in early stages of dementia, and guns don't mix. If you really don't know why they are a danger, you aren't going to listen to anything I tell you. If we take keys away from folks who are "too old to drive," I think we need to do the same for those with guns.

In any event, I'd really prefer "law-abiding" folks like this stay at home to play with their guns:

[gejohnston]

19. self portrait?

that spare mag has to hurt.

[Hoyt]

20. One of your gun culture friends, from a right wing gun site.

[SGMRTDARMY]

21. Once again, your right

if a court says that someone is unfit to have firearms around due to mental state, then by all means, have a relative, friend, whatever, remove them.

You are the one who has shown time and time again that you are the one who won't listen to reason, ignore statistics when posted, disparage, insult other DU'ers by comparing them to Loughner or Zimmerman.

I'm sorry, I just don't get why you are like that. I get that you don't like gun but a least try to be civil about it.

As far as what you prefer, thats your right and it is my right to ignore what you prefer.

[lastlib]

24. "...try to be civil about it"???

We are supposed to sit back dispassionately while 25,000 people DIE EVERY YEAR because of your FUCKING TOYS???

NO, THANK YOU.

[SGMRTDARMY]

25. I wasn't talking to you.

But I will address your post. of the 25,000 that die each year by firearm, appox 51% of them are suicide.

See, I can have a conversation without the foul words, you really ought to try it sometime.

BTW, you may think of them as toys, those of us that own and carry them do not.

[ileus]

23. That guy likes his 1911's...something tells me this was from a spoof thread.

All the link goes to is a photobucket account...please post the thread link so we'll have this in context.

[CreekDog]

35. looks like a potential honorable mention for the Darwin Awards

most people die getting those awards --but there is a loophole.

[Glaug-Eldare]

22. You consider anyone with a gun a danger

and you can't back it up with anything but "ZIMMERMAN NRA GRANDPA LOUGHNER"

bzzzzzzzz

[Remmah2]

30. So are bitter old men with computer access. nt

nt

[gejohnston]

3. I saw this on TTAG

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/05/daniel-zimmerman/quote-of-the-day-debt-paid-edition/#comments
he has about as many supporters there as he did on TPM. http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/randy_duke_cunningham_gun_rights_restore_atf.php
$1700 per month in California? Where?

I'm guessing that if you were the Sec. of Treas., you would tell him to fuck off. I might too. I would restore John Dean's.

Question, since black powder guns are not legally guns (under federal gun laws because of the lack of fixed cartridge) perhaps he can get a Hawkins replica? Wait, something tells me that he is too "city" for such a thing.
Bears with rabies are very rare. If a mt. lion bites you, rabies won't be your problem. Raccoons and coyotes, different deal.

[safeinOhio]

5. He is planning to move to rural Arkansas.

He could get Ted Nugent to show him how to shoot a bow.

[gejohnston]

6. Bow is good,

although taking bow lessons from Ted might be like taking skeet lessons from Cheney, or is that the point?

[krispos42]

8. muzzle-loading double-barreled shotgun?

All ya need...

[gejohnston]

10. I miss CVA kits.

for Duke:

http://www.cva.com/Muzzleloading-Products.php?shop=Blackpowder%20Pistols#l

http://www.cabelas.com/traditional-rifles-shotguns-cabelas-black-powder-double-barrel-shotgun-12-gauge-1.shtml?WT.tsrc=CSE&WT.mc_id=GoogleBaseUSA&WT.z_mc_id1=727322&rid=40&mr:trackingCode=DAF97352-F5D2-DF11-82EF-001B21631C34&mr:referralID=NA

Good point. He could start a new trend.
http://www.muzzleloadingshotguns.com/

[krispos42]

13. There ya go

A muzzleloading shotgun and a couple of black-powder cap-and-ball revolvers. Problem solved for Dukie...

[oneshooter]

34. It also depends on the laws of the state he is in.

[ileus]

4. Sounds like muzzleloader time...I wish him luck on restoring his rights.

[krispos42]

7. $1,700 per month

yeah, but at that level he'll still have a refrigerator, a microwave, a flat-screen TV, a cell phone, and new sneakers. So he's wonderfully off.



So says Faux News.

[xtraxritical]

9. If I'm lucky enough to live until I'm 66 I'll have $700/mo. less than this pig to live on.

Also, he must have Cayman accounts with all the bribes he was taking from the MIC. I hope a bear gets him.

[gejohnston]

11. Black bears are mellow.

I have one that comes by once in awhile to munch on the yard pine cones. Last fourth of July, he took out the composting bin to get the watermelon rinds.
I guess we could let Duke have a .25 ACP in grizzly or Kodiak country.

Oh yeah, why do people insult pigs?

[krispos42]

12. Yeah, but you'll have a refrigerator

LUXURY. You should be on your knees thanking God that you were born in America, and not whining that John McCain has 14 houses and pays 15% on his income! YOU HAVE A REFRIGERATOR!!!

[SGMRTDARMY]

26. Personally

I think that if someone has served their sentence and finished their parole, not been convicted of a violent crime, then absolutely they should have their 2ND Amendment right restored along with all their other rights.

[petronius]

27. I agree with that in principle, and if Cunningham was advocating a general

change in policy I'd be for it. But the back of my hand to this RW felon's mewl for special treatment...

[SGMRTDARMY]

28. Agreed.

[Atypical Liberal]

29. Nope. Most people who commit homicide have extensive prior criminal records.

I think if you've committed a disqualifying act, you lose the right to own firearms. Why? Because the overwhelming majority of people who commit homicide with a firearm have extensive prior criminal records. Knowing this, why would we allow these people to legally keep firearms?

[SGMRTDARMY]

31. Let me clarify

Someone trying to get their rights restored should have their whole criminal record examined by a non partisan panel to determine if they qualify for rights restoration.
Hope that clears it up.

[safeinOhio]

32. Sorry Cunningham

You and your republican buddies cut funding to investigate the crap you are now crying about. Perhaps you can get a special dispensation from NRA board member Grover to raise enough taxes to pay for it.

[SGMRTDARMY]

33. Yeah there is that

Sucks to be him.