Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumMother defends life and child with home safety device.
http://www.goupstate.com/article/20120907/ARTICLES/120909801/1088/sports?Title=Deputies-say-woman-protecting-toddler-fires-shots-at-intruderThe incident was reported on Jolly Road in Gaffney about 10:45 a.m. Sheriff Steve Mueller said the resident heard someone ringing her doorbell, so she ran to her bedroom with her toddler.
The man ringing the bell kicked in the front door, then kicked in the bedroom door and met the resident, who shot at him, Mueller said.
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Nice to see good news of firearms making life better for people. As intended by the manufactures of self defense firearms.
safeinOhio
(32,714 posts)difficult if not impossible to kick in or force open. For about $40/window you can install a security film that makes it difficult if not impossible to break and inter thru a window. While there is nothing wrong with a gun for home protection, other than shooting the wrong person, having it stolen or accidental misfire, cheap home security should be your first line of defense.
Most of the stories posted today by both sides could have been stopped with cheap home security used. If you have a gun for home safety, please make it the last thing you need to defend yourself and family. Also, if you are not at home, when most crimes happen, your security measures are still at work.
ileus
(15,396 posts)safeinOhio
(32,714 posts)Cheaper than community grants for quality fire arms and few hundred rounds for everyone.
If you only have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Missycim
(950 posts)going to depend on a door? Its better to have a layered defense.
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)Caltrops and Claymores are proven effective
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)and yet presidents are still killed.
/far more than your community grants could ever provide.
Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)In many places, it is illegal to fortify a home such that it can't be broken into.
Also there may be safety considerations if you cannot quickly escape your home in an emergency, such as a fire.
safeinOhio
(32,714 posts)Doors and windows that can easily opened from the inside are safe and legal. I think you are taking about bars and grates. Could you point out any state or local laws that prohibit what I have suggested, like security window films or anti door kick in measures?
Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)I'll have to go looking for them, but I remember reading in the past how it is illegal to fortify your home.
I believe this is aimed specifically at gangsters who try to build a fortification that cannot be broken into by the police.
rDigital
(2,239 posts)Film over my chest to keep intruders out.
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)in a position that no one can enter, you run a nail or screw into the drilled hole and the window can't be opened any further.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)"Here's what you did to make yourself the victim of this assault"
Doesn't the perpetrator bear at least some of the blame?
/and no comments on how she was dressed?
safeinOhio
(32,714 posts)having a Remington 870 under the bed.
/and no comments on locking a door either?
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)that is their choice, not their fault.
You can do everything right and still be a victim. Not so?
You may as well demand they be rich so they can live in a safe neighborhood. Yeah, that would be nice. Not always possible though and not a sure-thing either.
safeinOhio
(32,714 posts)we can agree on that. You can have a gun and, or, cheap home security, or expensive home security, or an expensive gun and still become a victim. You CAN reduce the odds.
To bitch at someone that suggest reducing the odds is pretty crazy.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)about home security and you are quite correct, there are several cheap ways to fortify your home against intruders, one of my recommendations, after securing your doors and windows, is get a dog, keep cell phone in your bedroom.
A firearm is always a last resort
safeinOhio
(32,714 posts)A peep hole to look out without being seen. Fake stickers that say protected by security alarms and cameras. Dummy cameras are real cheap. They even have an alarm now that senses people coming up to the door, it gives off sounds a barking dog that gets loader as the person gets closer. Motion detectors on your porch lights have come way down in price.
As I said, whats going to protect your gun collection when you are not at home? A thief can break in and steel a gun safe bolted to the floor in less than 20 minutes.
If you want to have a gun or not, these measures can reduce the chance of being a victim by 90%. Crooks hit the easy houses first, unless they know you keep lots of cash, have guns or drugs. Of course if these measures were taking by more folks there would be more space on google.
Clames
(2,038 posts)...is that your suggestions do not even come close to making a standard entry door break in resistant. You are obviously no carpenter or even a competent DIY'er or you would know entry doors already have 3" screws in most houses built in the last 15 years. You are also forgetting, or just plain lack the knowledge, of how doors are framed in standard rough openings.
trouble.smith
(374 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)according to Yuri Orlov: "Where there's a will, there's a weapon."
trouble.smith
(374 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)I do, quite often.