Mayors oppose dangerous gun bill

[SecularMotion]

Law enforcement leaders and eight Michigan mayors today came out in strong opposition to HB 5225, a bill that would eliminate background checks for private-party handgun sales, which comprise nearly half of all handgun sales in Michigan.

"This bill would make it easier for convicted criminals and persons with severe mental illness to obtain deadly weapons and make it more difficult for our police officers to protect themselves and our communities," the mayors wrote in a letter to state Senate leaders and Governor Rick Snyder.

HB 5225 has already passed the state House of Representatives, and it cleared a Senate committee vote earlier this month. A full Senate vote is expected as early as next week.

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HB 5225 is also strongly opposed by the Michigan State Police, the Michigan Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault Prevention and Treatment Board and the Michigan Coalition to End Domestic Violence and Sexual Violence.

http://www.eastvillagemagazine.org/news-releases/18466-mayors-oppose-dangerous-gun-bill-.html

[friendly_iconoclast]

1. Didn't read the whole thing, did ya?

Aside from the fact that this statement was issued by the Michigan division of the felon-ridden Mayors Against Illegal Guns, there was one particular howler from the mayor of Detroit about 2/3rds of the way down the page. I leave it to the observer to figure out what's wrong with the following:

"During my administration, four Detroit police officers were shot by perpetrators using a shotgun that was legally sold without a background check. It is unfortunate that our legislature is now trying to eliminate background checks for half of all handgun sales," said Detroit Mayor Bing. "We need all elected officials to stand up for public safety and make it tougher for illegal guns to infiltrate our community."

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

7. A 12-gauge Glock? Fear the recoil! nt

[bongbong]

2. Guns guns guns!

Don't try to take away the lifeline of the Delicate Flowers. Any kind of gun regulations impinges on their vital need to be armed with guns, preferably more than one or better yet an arsenal, to brave the dangerous world that lies outside their "Fortress Of Solitude"

[hack89]

3. Considering grabbers are being consistently steamrolled by those delicate flowers

there is a certain irony in your choice of labels.

[Marinedem]

4. LOL, yep, pretty much.

[bongbong]

5. LOL

> Considering grabbers are being consistently steamrolled by those delicate flowers

If by "steamrolled" you mean "Delicate Flowers posting lie-filled posts about the glory of guns 24x7 as if they were paid by the NRA", I agree with you.

[hack89]

6. No - I mean winning political and legislative battles as grabbers watch in helpless despair.

says a lot about the power of the gun control movement when even delicate flowers are kicking their asses.

[rDigital]

8. The Gungeon is not reflective of the U.S. at large. Delicate flowers are in the drivers seat. nt

[jody]

19. If you mean anti-gun people are the majority of the US, I challenge you to prove it. nt

[rDigital]

23. Anti's are definitely in the minority by an enormous margin. The frustration drives them to insults

, foaming at the mouth and stomping their feet in the Gungeon.

[bongbong]

9. Winning

> I mean winning political and legislative battles as grabbers watch in helpless despair.

You're talking about the millions given by ALEC and other right-wing groups to the NRA and other causes to further gun deregulation.

Yes, the right-wing has billions to throw at their pet causes. Interesting you believe that money=being right.

Just keep telling yourself that your billionaire idols care about you.

[hack89]

12. No - we have the votes. You don't

and why isn't the Brady bunch as powerful as the NRA? Lack of a popular message? Shear incompetence?

Why are you so marginalized?

[bongbong]

14. LOL

> No - we have the votes.

Thanks to the millions given to gun causes by the right-wing, as well as the right-wing MSM downplaying gun control.

Go ahead, you should just admit you love money influencing politics. Remember, your Precious is VERY important!

[spin]

20. Those who support draconian gun laws use the NRA as a bogeyman. ...

The fact is that the NRA has only 4.3 million members out of the 80 million gun owners in our nation.

Please explain to me why the Brady Campaign has perhaps 1/10th the number of members that the NRA does if stronger gun control such as another assault weapons ban or national registration of firearms is very popular with most citizens.

The fact is that most citizens in our nation see no serious problem with honest and responsible citizens owning and even carrying firearms.

If you disagree please explain this map that shows the spread of right to carry laws across our nation.



Some form of Right to Carry laws passed in all states with the exception of Illinois despite all the efforts of the Brady Campaign and the news media to discourage the passage of these laws. "Shall Issue" concealed carry is the most popular.

The simple fact is that our nation has a very strong gun culture and that is unlikely to change in the near future. The blame for the failure of the gun control movement is often blamed on the NRA but the true strength of the RKBA movement lies with the 80 million gun owners and members of their families who show up at the polls to vote against any politician that they perceive as a significant threat to gun rights .

[bongbong]

21. Clueless as always

You Delicate Flowers are sure clueless about the role of reich-wing money in politics.

[spin]

22. That's a great reply!

I'm very impressed!

[bongbong]

26. Well

I guess you haven't heard about the Citizen's United decision, among others, which show the enormous distortion that unlimited reich-wing money makes on Democracy.

Maybe you should keep up on current events better. Google "Citizen's United" for a start on your education.

[spin]

33. The Citizen United decision is indeed a current event. ...

Therefore it and other recent rulings do little to explain the map I presented in my previous post which showed the spread of Right to Carry laws across our nation since 1986.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_carry_in_the_United_States

I will also challenge you to explain why the support for gun control has dropped dramatically as shown by these graphs.

[blockquote
October 26, 2011
Record-Low 26% in U.S. Favor Handgun Ban
by Jeffrey M. Jones
support for stricter gun laws in general is lowest Gallup has measured






http://www.gallup.com/poll/150341/record-low-favor-handgun-ban.aspx

[hack89]

24. How does that stop people from joining the Brady bunch?

when are you going to stop with the excuses and start getting organized?

Or have you given up and LOLs and smilies the extent of your effort on part of gun control? Which is fine - makes it that much easier for use pro-gun Democrats when grabbers marginalize themselves.

[hack89]

27. So why is nobody joining the Brady bunch?

i though gun control had real support in America?

[glacierbay]

28. Ruh Roh

looks like bongbong got another posts hidden.

[pintobean]

29. Juror #5 is so classy.

Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: bongbong has a point. More guns do not = less crime. So the other poster was lying. Calling a lie a lie is what DUers do. I don't think calling someone that lies a liar is over-the-top. In fact we should it more on DU, it should be mandatory to call these lying scumbag gun jerkwad out of the lies they tell. I feel sorry who are so afraid that they need to cling to their guns . They must have suffered some trauma when they were younger leading to their paranoia in the world.

Probably one of the DBs running to Meta with this crap.

[glacierbay]

31. Wow.

sounds like juror #5 doesn't like gun owners. Just a tad bit insulting wouldn't you say?

[Reasonable_Argument]

11. "fortress of solitude"

Are you implying gun owners are supermen?

[bongbong]

15. LOL

No, I'm implying they live in a scary fantasyland like a comic book.

[aikoaiko]

30. poor bongbong

18 hidden posts in the last 90 days and locked out of this thread already.

Posts Hidden by Jury (last 90 days)
Posts hidden by Jury: 18
Total posts: 1280
Percentage of posts hidden: 1.41%

[Eleanors38]

32. 90,000,000 citizens? In "solitude?" Its that new math.nt

[ileus]

10. Wonder if they know a shotgun isn't a pistol.

More people that don't know there ass from a hole in the ground.


If it's pointy and goes boom it's a glock.

[MercutioATC]

13. If it's black and has pointy bits sticking out, it's an assault rifle.

[S_B_Jackson]

17. I don' think they do....

If it.....goes boom it's a glock.

Don't you mean, If it goes Ka-Boom! it's a glock?

[ileus]

18. Only with reloads and no jacketed bullets.

[ManiacJoe]

16. So how does it currently work in Michigan?

Does the buyer go to the police station, request a background check, get an officially printed result, take the result to the seller, make the buy?