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CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:01 AM Dec 2012

do you support or oppose laws that prevent doctors from talking about guns with their patients?


13 votes, 3 passes | Time left: Unlimited
I support laws which prevent doctors from discussing guns with their patients
4 (31%)
I oppose laws which prevent doctors from discussing guns with their patients
9 (69%)
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do you support or oppose laws that prevent doctors from talking about guns with their patients? (Original Post) CreekDog Dec 2012 OP
Doctors should be able to talk about guns with their patients JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2012 #1
Doctors, particularly psychiatrists, definitely ought to be having these conversastions. n/t Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #2
I have no problem with doctors discussing gun ownership. NewMoonTherian Dec 2012 #3
^^^ Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #17
My doctors have often discussed firearms with me. ... spin Dec 2012 #4
I support... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #5
Depends upon the qualifications of the doctor? Remmah2 Dec 2012 #6
you're saying that a doctor, say a urologist, should not be allowed to ask psychological questions? CreekDog Dec 2012 #8
nor should your psychologist ask your about your foot fungus. Remmah2 Dec 2012 #9
well thank you for confirming your ignorance CreekDog Dec 2012 #10
If you can't get it up and it's psychological, sound personal. Remmah2 Dec 2012 #11
congratulations to the posters who are too morally conflicted over the issue to take a position CreekDog Dec 2012 #7
Not morally conflicted. HALO141 Dec 2012 #15
Shitty poll question iiibbb Mar 2013 #18
The poll is moot, as I am not aware of any state that has laws preventing such conversations. PavePusher Dec 2012 #12
I have no problem with a doctor... actslikeacarrot Dec 2012 #13
What possible difference would it make either way? holdencaufield Dec 2012 #14
OTOH, I don't support doctors who refuse service to patients who don't want to answer questions... aikoaiko Mar 2013 #16
Doctors should have the freedom to practice as they see necessary. Glaug-Eldare Mar 2013 #19
I support the patient having the right to not answer. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #20
In general, I'd oppose kudzu22 Mar 2013 #21
Should doctors be able to ask if a parent locks up HockeyMom Mar 2013 #22

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,344 posts)
1. Doctors should be able to talk about guns with their patients
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 10:11 AM
Dec 2012

... to the extent that the gun is somehow involved with the patient's health. If joint pain is keeping me from competitive shooting events, I want to discuss that.

NewMoonTherian

(883 posts)
3. I have no problem with doctors discussing gun ownership.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 11:17 AM
Dec 2012

I do have a problem with doctors expecting patients to answer questions about their personal gun ownership. That isn't medically relevant, and the doctor has no right or professional reason to know.

spin

(17,493 posts)
4. My doctors have often discussed firearms with me. ...
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 11:48 AM
Dec 2012

The conversation is about what type of firearms we have and shooting or hunting experiences.

 

Remmah2

(3,291 posts)
6. Depends upon the qualifications of the doctor?
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 12:38 PM
Dec 2012

Would you want to discuss mental health with your proctologist?

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
8. you're saying that a doctor, say a urologist, should not be allowed to ask psychological questions?
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:37 PM
Dec 2012

is that what you're saying?

 

Remmah2

(3,291 posts)
9. nor should your psychologist ask your about your foot fungus.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:54 PM
Dec 2012

It has nothing to do with their core competency and does not offer any benefit to the patient.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
10. well thank you for confirming your ignorance
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:09 PM
Dec 2012

since a urologist treating sexual issues would have a reason to ask questions related to mental health and/or psychological issues.

you have no expertise in this and should not be telling anyone's doctor what they should or should not ask.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
7. congratulations to the posters who are too morally conflicted over the issue to take a position
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:36 PM
Dec 2012

smooooooooth

HALO141

(911 posts)
15. Not morally conflicted.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 07:12 PM
Dec 2012

I have too much respect for the First Amendment to think that any conversational topic should be ruled illegal. I also have too much respect for the Second Amendment to favor the CDC trying to reframe a constitutional issue into the public health arena. Beyond that, I have no interest in listening to a load of moralistic dribble from my doctor. Treat my sinus infection and shut the fuck up.

 

iiibbb

(1,448 posts)
18. Shitty poll question
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 12:02 PM
Mar 2013

It depends on context and meaning of "discuss".


It's the same as asking if I oppose "reasonable" gun control. What's "reasonable"? I am being asked to accept a premise before the terms are revealed.


In principle I do not think laws should overly influence my relationship with my doctor... and I am for" reasonable " gun control if that is ever really proposed

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
12. The poll is moot, as I am not aware of any state that has laws preventing such conversations.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:54 PM
Dec 2012

If you know of one, can you cite the law involved?

actslikeacarrot

(464 posts)
13. I have no problem with a doctor...
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 05:56 PM
Dec 2012

...asking about guns, but I also have no problem with a patient saying "nunyabusiness" with no repercussions.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
14. What possible difference would it make either way?
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 05:58 PM
Dec 2012

Do you propose a similar ban on doctors speaking with women on reproductive choices? Because there are people who would support that.

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
16. OTOH, I don't support doctors who refuse service to patients who don't want to answer questions...
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 09:06 PM
Mar 2013

... about their guns or anything else.

That doctor in Florida who refused ongoing service to a parent who didn't want to answer that question is a first class a-hole.
http://www.ocala.com/article/20100724/ARTICLES/7241001

Glaug-Eldare

(1,089 posts)
19. Doctors should have the freedom to practice as they see necessary.
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 12:48 PM
Mar 2013

Particularly psychiatric professionals who feel that it would be helpful for a patient to voluntarily remove themselves from the presence of firearms. Pediatricians should be free to offer advice about safe storage and safety education, or to ask questions about what potential risks exist in a home. I even think that GPs should be able to recommend against firearms ownership if they personally consider it a health hazard. No doctor should be required to ignore any gun-related issue they find medically relevant, nor should any patient be required to answer gun-related questions or adjust their gun ownership in order to receive emergency or pre-paid care.

This is one area where the "free market" idea should prevail. Let doctors say and ask virtually anything they like, and let patients be free to seek care from a provider compatible with their needs. The farthest I'd be willing to go with restrictions on doctors is to require that gun-related questions be accompanied by notice that patients are not required to answer them, but that should be self-evident.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
20. I support the patient having the right to not answer.
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 03:36 PM
Mar 2013

When I want advise on a car, I go to a mechanic.
When I want advise on a gun, I go to a gun expert.
When I want medical advise, I go to a doctor.

kudzu22

(1,273 posts)
21. In general, I'd oppose
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 04:52 PM
Mar 2013

Unless someone can show that it's discriminatory in some way. I'd also oppose laws requiring physicians to ask about guns. I support my right to choose another doctor who doesn't pry into non-medical issues.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
22. Should doctors be able to ask if a parent locks up
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 05:20 PM
Mar 2013

household chemicals, put safety plugs on outlets, meds bottles, etc., which can KILL children, why not about GUN SAFETY? Do you think they should be not able to ask about these things also? Unsecured guns can kill children too? Why should they be exempt but not the others?

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