I am irritated with the media, whether or not they are "Liberal"

[BigmanPigman]

I said for weeks and weeks to ignore the polls and the BS opinions of the media. I know they are full of shit and big $$$$$$ and are skewed.

Yesterday, on MSNBC Joy Reid acknowledged that the pollsters and the media (including MSNBC) blew it and now Ari Melber is saying the same thing. Now he has Michael Moore back on from a week ago and Ari told Michael he was right...that there would be NO RED WAVE !!!!!

Polls are BS these days and the media is after ratings/$$$$$.

Will they learn their lessons? I doubt it. They do not want to be accurate, they want to create emotional responses which pays them big bucks. My dad told me to ignore polls and studies. Dad was right. He also said the GQP was a "bunch of greedy hypocrites".

[elleng]

1. *They do not want to be accurate, they want to create emotional responses'

[Raven123]

2. I agree. MSNBC was no better than than CNN pre election. Heard it repeatedly.

[Me.]

6. And Once Again Nicole Had On Mara Gay & Mathew Dowd

Both who continually trash Dems. Tonight's agenda was what NY Dems did wrong.

[Joinfortmill]

3. Yes, they sucked, bigly.

[emulatorloo]

4. WAPO Opinion - Biggest loser of the midterm elections? The media.

Dana Milbank really lays it out. I think you will agree with his analysis. He gives tons of examples from reporters who fell for Republican spin and junk polls.

This is a gift link, no paywall.

https://wapo.st/3DZuxH8

[BigmanPigman]

5. Wow! That says it all.

You should post this in the forum "Editorials and other articles".

Now I am even more pissed off, if that's possible.

[emulatorloo]

7. It makes me so angry too. Took your advice and posted it in Editorials. Thanks for thinking of

That.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016336661

[BigmanPigman]

9. And now they are trying to "save face"

and it is pathetic and it pisses me off even more. Fuck them!!! No one should ever trust polls and political BS, regardless of
party and media outlet. Chris Hayes, Ari Melber, Joy Ried, etc are all trying to spin their own BS polls and predictions as something the "media" was guilty of but not really them (MSNBC).

[ificandream]

11. There's a big difference between news and opinion.

But polls are opinion that's also news. As much as we hate them. Pundits are opinion. And I think there is a little too much reliance on pundits and polls, which are, really, the opinion of lots of people. But then I don't run a TV station.

[Waterguy]

12. Opinions usually aren't actionable and with some added extra sauce

exactly ificandream!

The instant polling is qualitative and not a truly qualified way to understand how much caffeine someone did or did not drink.

- Opinions can be momentarily miss guided or some people might just try to answer to them as a joke --- you know those silly kids.

[Waterguy]

13. Media encompasses all - Entertainment, News Print, Opinion - Public Emergency Alert system

It's all slanted really...

always always was - has to be that way.

Sure, they have them to the left and them to the right - fluff all

but the fluff on the left or should we say soft left is a bit more literate - well sure
but it can get too fluffed --- everything is Breaking News
"someone on the set farted can you guess who" scrolls at the bottom of the screen.

For hard news you need print - but know most folks read it on their personal cell phones -
and it's the same typical click and bait hard hitting flash that makes you, you just got to click

so as a consumer of media you got to be discerningly clever and critical but still be, you know
a somewhat mellow level headed dude.

[ancianita]

14. Thanks for this.

You remind me that as one rethug criticizes House rethugs for thinking this is a game, the same goes for media.

They've both put in a lot of time, money, and drama to keep Americans from seeing how simple the game is.

It's a game because both are paid game pieces run on a game board run by their owners.
Until media face that fact in their own house — then inform the public of the names and activities of their anti-democracy owners -- media monopolists will run these boards for the corporate governance of this country.

Corporate media's three goals are the same in media and People's House: profit, groom minds through perception management, and inject the human landscape with "breaking" adrenaline. It's the old corporate fascist playbook to get and keep control of humans as money/energy sources.

Long as corporate media exist there's no such thing as conservative or liberal media.
There's 'fact-based, contextualized information' media and there's 'perception/fear management' media. One is the fourth estate. One is corporate.

So rethugs and media will keep running their owners’ game, Americans will keep fighting their good fight to run government by informed consent, against corporate manufactured consent.

[BigmanPigman]

15. After reading this "old"post today

I finally got off my ass and tried to cancel my NY Time digital subscription which I got in 2017 when I was encouraged by Dems to support print media. I tried before but they make it very difficult to cancel a subscription. In my opinion the NY Times is not objective. This week when they ran a story with the report of the Israeli attack on a hospital they posted a photo with the story showing a completely different building that was blown up. Very irresponsible and I do not support that.