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unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:40 AM Feb 2014

UK to spend £2.5bn on F-35 fighters

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26124894



UK to spend £2.5bn on F-35 fighters
11 February 2014 Last updated at 12:10 ET

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The initial UK order for 14 F-35Bs will, with support costs added, cost about £2.5bn, Newsnight has learned.

Defence Secretary Philip Hammond said the F-35B was an expensive plane, but one with an "incredible capability".

But critics have questioned Ministry of Defence suggestions that the jets will be combat capable by 2018.

The F35-B will be known as Lightning II in UK active service and is going to replace the already retired Harrier.


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$2,500,000,000 / 14 = $178,571,428 a pop. Since the B model is more expensive that the A (at least $270,000,000) or C models, I suspect the B model cost is waaaay low.
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UK to spend £2.5bn on F-35 fighters (Original Post) unhappycamper Feb 2014 OP
Note that the cost quoted is in British Pounds VMA131Marine Feb 2014 #1
You're correct - I forgot to do the pound conversion. unhappycamper Feb 2014 #2
Can't we buy something cheaper, and... say, French Ghost Dog Feb 2014 #3
As soon as the french build something that can land vertically it can be considered. Angleae Feb 2014 #4
Mmmm... Oh, fuck. Ghost Dog Feb 2014 #5

VMA131Marine

(4,140 posts)
1. Note that the cost quoted is in British Pounds
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:47 AM
Feb 2014

not dollars. Currently £1 = $1.65 so the total order will cost $4.1bn or $297,000,000 per plane.

Angleae

(4,487 posts)
4. As soon as the french build something that can land vertically it can be considered.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 01:00 AM
Feb 2014

Last edited Fri Feb 14, 2014, 07:38 AM - Edit history (1)

The british decided to equip their new carrier with no arresting wires so the plane has to be able to land vertically.

PS: They're not jointly built, france pulled out for now.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
5. Mmmm... Oh, fuck.
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 01:43 AM
Feb 2014

Last edited Sun Feb 16, 2014, 02:57 AM - Edit history (1)

... The carriers will be completed as originally planned, in a Short Take-Off and Vertical Landing (STOVL) configuration, deploying the Lockheed Martin F-35B. Following the 2010 Strategic Defence and Security Review, the British government had intended to purchase the F-35C carrier version of this aircraft, and adopted plans for Prince of Wales to be built to a Catapult Assisted Take Off Barrier Arrested Recovery (CATOBAR) configuration. After the projected costs of the CATOBAR system rose to around twice the original estimate, the government announced that it would revert to the original design on 10 May 2012.

Under the previous plans, the Royal Navy would operate only one aircraft carrier, routinely equipped with 12 fast jets. However, the Chief of the Defence Staff has subsequently said that the STOVL design "gives us the ability to operate two carriers if we choose." The final decision will be made at the next major strategic defence review, expected in 2015.[6][7][8]...

/... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Elizabeth-class_aircraft_carrier

Yeah. You're right. I hadn't noticed...

... PA2 (French "Porte-Avions 2", English "Aircraft Carrier 2&quot was a planned aircraft carrier under development by Thales Naval France and DCNS for the French Navy. The design was based on the Queen Elizabeth class aircraft carriers developed for the Royal Navy. The project was cancelled in the 2013 French White Paper on Defence and National Security.[2][3]...

/... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_French_aircraft_carrier

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