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Number23

(24,544 posts)
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 08:18 PM Nov 2015

20+ years later and still as relevant today as ever



Why oh why must it be this way?
Before you can read me you gotta learn how to see me, I said
Free your mind and the rest will follow
Be color blind, don't be so shallow…
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/envogue/freeyourmind.html


Though "color blindness" is a goal that can never be reached (and probably shouldn't be) everything else is the truth.

Before you can read me you gotta learn how to see me
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20+ years later and still as relevant today as ever (Original Post) Number23 Nov 2015 OP
+1000 Oh, yes! Kind of Blue Nov 2015 #1
A great paraphrase of a truly phenomenal quote Number23 Nov 2015 #3
"High as hell" is the ONLY state Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #5
I like the way you think Kind of Blue Nov 2015 #7
You ain't lying! Number23 Nov 2015 #10
My peoople! Those were the days Kind of Blue Nov 2015 #8
Yup. lovemydog Nov 2015 #15
That is TRULY the jam right there. Holy shit. Number23 Nov 2015 #20
I've been thinking, we need lovemydog Nov 2015 #33
I'm signing up to this thread that will never die! Kind of Blue Nov 2015 #39
Hell yeah!! The Hip Hop Honeys Nursing Home and Nightclub!! Number23 Nov 2015 #41
Same. lovemydog Nov 2015 #44
You are soooooo wrong...!! Number23 Nov 2015 #47
Okay. lovemydog Nov 2015 #49
Reminds of this beautiful video of the Power of Music Kind of Blue Nov 2015 #43
Yes! lovemydog Nov 2015 #45
It is a wonderful thing! Kind of Blue Nov 2015 #51
+1000! This and Knee Deep! Kind of Blue Nov 2015 #32
That's 15 minutes of mind-expanding soul inspiring funk lovemydog Nov 2015 #34
Yes! Yes! Yes! and Yes! Kind of Blue Nov 2015 #36
In our spirits. lovemydog Nov 2015 #37
Happy Thanksgiving, lovemydog to you Kind of Blue Nov 2015 #40
I was in a band in New Orleans,... Ferretherder Nov 2015 #28
That is so cool. lovemydog Nov 2015 #35
I don't know how I missed this post before Number23 Nov 2015 #42
+1 Person 2713 Nov 2015 #31
God, I still love that record! zappaman Nov 2015 #38
Speak on it, #23! Tarheel_Dem Nov 2015 #2
Girl... you know it! Number23 Nov 2015 #4
uh huh randys1 Nov 2015 #6
If you like Sly... SidDithers Nov 2015 #16
Awesome, will check it out in full over the weekend. Try some randys1 Nov 2015 #17
This! sheshe2 Nov 2015 #9
Kick sheshe2 Nov 2015 #11
K&R! betsuni Nov 2015 #12
Everyday People and Everybody is a Star kwassa Nov 2015 #13
Love this song! lovemydog Nov 2015 #14
This group was fierce back in the day! monicaangela Nov 2015 #18
If I could have been the fifth (and only non-singing) member of En Vogue I would have done it Number23 Nov 2015 #19
Absolutely Number23 monicaangela Nov 2015 #21
My favorite TLC track was kind of my theme song. It summed up how I felt about people trying Number23 Nov 2015 #22
Love that too monicaangela Nov 2015 #23
Damn, that's so cool. lovemydog Nov 2015 #24
great OP heaven05 Nov 2015 #25
Hey Heaven! Number23 Nov 2015 #26
I couldn't agree more heaven05 Nov 2015 #27
Love this song chervilant Nov 2015 #29
K & R SunSeeker Nov 2015 #30
"Dress me up for battle when all I want is peace," Harvest for the World Kind of Blue Nov 2015 #46
Girl, you ALWAYS bring the deepness. The depth. And the soul Number23 Nov 2015 #48
I love you too, Number23, especially for this thread Kind of Blue Nov 2015 #50
It's raining like a big dog here in SoCal, for a change. But this morning Kind of Blue Dec 2015 #52

Number23

(24,544 posts)
3. A great paraphrase of a truly phenomenal quote
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 08:24 PM
Nov 2015

The original: Free your mind, and your ASS will follow



by the phenomenal, incomparable Parliament Funkadelic (though it is BEYOND obvious they were tripping hard as hell on this track)

Number23

(24,544 posts)
20. That is TRULY the jam right there. Holy shit.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 05:54 PM
Nov 2015

Will be FOREVER dope. I will be playing that in my nursing home and pissing off the orderlies.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
33. I've been thinking, we need
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 11:55 AM
Nov 2015

nursing homes that specialize in the music and lifestyles we enjoy. We could join, jam on P-Funk & other dope music, keep posting here and laughing our butts off. What a way to go!

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
39. I'm signing up to this thread that will never die!
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 01:32 PM
Nov 2015

Really, so much music is still as relevant today as 20 years ago and before

Number23

(24,544 posts)
47. You are soooooo wrong...!!
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 06:04 PM
Nov 2015

You know them rims are nowhere big enough for the HHHNH&N!!!



THAT'S what I'm talking bout!

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
32. +1000! This and Knee Deep!
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 11:39 AM
Nov 2015

Instrumentally, lyrically, vocally is a masterpiece, like a religious experience.
Music from the '70s, '80s & '90s off the hook and so many of the geniuses before then alive and still performing, we had it so good!

My favorite verse, "That music and the beat HA! Started tryin' liberating my feet. Can this be me, immersed in funk so deep?"

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
34. That's 15 minutes of mind-expanding soul inspiring funk
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 12:13 PM
Nov 2015

right there. De La Soul sampled the opening riff for Me Myself and I. Other beats were sampled by Rick James, Snoop, Dre etc.

There's a church of John Coltrane in San Francisco.

We're all part of the church of P Funk.

Something about the music, it got into my dance
Something about the music, it got into my pants
I got ants in my pants and I need to dance!

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
36. Yes! Yes! Yes! and Yes!
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 12:24 PM
Nov 2015

I saw the Coltrane documentary about a year ago and have visited their site, ColtraneChurch.org
My husband and I have the church on our bucket list as mecca the next time we're up there. "We're all part of the church of P Funk," well said. We have the church of P Funk in our spirits. Amen.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
37. In our spirits.
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 12:48 PM
Nov 2015

Yes.

I watched the first ten minutes and will watch the rest later.

Thanks for posting it here K o B!

Happy Thanksgiving to you and your loved ones.

Ferretherder

(1,446 posts)
28. I was in a band in New Orleans,...
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 12:10 AM
Nov 2015

...back in the early 90's, with the only white-boy to ever play with George Clinton and Parliament Funkadelic......a guy from Monroe, LA, named Doug Duffey. Look him up on the intertubes.........you'll understand why they wanted him on the tour (Mothership Down)!

...good times!

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
35. That is so cool.
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 12:15 PM
Nov 2015

You should write an article about it for Mojo or Uncut or some other cool magazine. I'm sure they'd be interested. Hell I'd order a book by you about all those experiences. Keep on funking my friend.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
16. If you like Sly...
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 09:31 AM
Nov 2015

here's a great vid from a concert they gave at the Harlem Cultural Festival about 6 weeks before Woodstock.



Quality isn't great, but the talent more than makes up for it.



Sid

randys1

(16,286 posts)
17. Awesome, will check it out in full over the weekend. Try some
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 12:28 PM
Nov 2015
&list=PLFxGEGxnQ0Mj6GmFHnnRdogvsyTp6WINs

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
9. This!
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 08:48 PM
Nov 2015
Why oh why must it be this way?
Before you can read me you gotta learn how to see me, I said
Free your mind and the rest will follow
Be color blind, don't be so shallow…
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/envogue/freeyourmind.html


Girl that was amazing. Thank you so much for posting the vid. Power there, so much power!

Thanks 23~

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
18. This group was fierce back in the day!
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 04:52 PM
Nov 2015

Love this song also, as you say, 20 years later and still as relevant as the day they made it. In reference to the color blind statement, I think they mean see me before you see my color, know me before you assume you know my culture, etc., etc., etc.

Thanks for this, hadn't heard this song in a while, gotta get my En Vogue CD's out and start listening to them again.

https://thrillcall.com/artist/En-Vogue

Number23

(24,544 posts)
19. If I could have been the fifth (and only non-singing) member of En Vogue I would have done it
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 05:53 PM
Nov 2015

in a minute. They wouldn't even have had to pay me I loved them so much.

En Vogue and TLC were like the living, breathing personification of the 1990s (a very formative time) for me. I will never, ever stop loving these gorgeous talented sisters and feel angry that there is hardly anyone like them today for young black girls to look up to in the music industry.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
21. Absolutely Number23
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 06:17 PM
Nov 2015

I am in about the same age group as the members of En Vogue, and some girlfriends of mine and I had a group that patterned itself after En Vogue, you couldn't tell me I wasn't one of the group back in those days. LOL!! I remember traveling with a friend to Germany just to catch one of their concerts, that's how much of a fan I was. Loved TLC also...my favorite:

Number23

(24,544 posts)
22. My favorite TLC track was kind of my theme song. It summed up how I felt about people trying
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 07:18 PM
Nov 2015

to tell young women how they should dress/act/be perfectly.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
24. Damn, that's so cool.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 05:55 PM
Nov 2015

Germany was super receptive to hip hop & early electronica. I remember some Detroit techno friends going over there and playing sold out shows in soccer stadiums. Where in Germany did you see En Vogue? Were any other artists on the bill? That must have been so badass being a group doing all that music.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
25. great OP
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 01:27 PM
Nov 2015

free your mind and your a** will follow is one of my favorite quotes. Sadly too many don't want free minds they want them imprisoned by Fox News and the rest of the RW poison present in the media and culture in this day and age of american society.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
26. Hey Heaven!
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 07:04 PM
Nov 2015


Did you see the Free your Mind track from Parliament that I posted upthread?? That was some seriously wild isht.

And yes, you're right about people wanting to have their minds imprisoned. Reminds me of what Daenyrs on Game of Thrones said when she was going around freeing slaves from all of the cities that she conquered. She worried how the slaves would respond to her and one of her advisers said, "why are you worried?? You've freed them!" and she replied "yes, but people learn to love their chains."

Be it ignorance, racism, drugs, or whatever, people do learn to love their chains. And will react violently towards anyone who tries to remove them.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
46. "Dress me up for battle when all I want is peace," Harvest for the World
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 05:22 PM
Nov 2015
"Gather everyman, gather every woman
Celebrate your lives, give thanks for your children
Gather everyone, gather all together
Overlooking none, hopin' life gets better for the world"



Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
50. I love you too, Number23, especially for this thread
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 09:27 PM
Nov 2015

that connects us to our souls. The best of our music that's too daggone many to count is always deep and from the soul.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
52. It's raining like a big dog here in SoCal, for a change. But this morning
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 01:34 PM
Dec 2015

I'm walking on sunshine. Why? Holtzclaw is guilty!


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