Dear (some) white folks: Thank you for proving my point and showing your a*s...I mean privilege

[Chitown Kev]

(Some of) y'all can post insensitive bullshit like this and this and it's OK.

But allow me to be the slightest bit insensitive and I get hidden...never mind all the other alert-stalking.

Thank you for proving the double standard.

[randys1]

1. America is a rabidly, viciously racist country. White privilege is EVERYWHERE

and that includes Democratic Underground.

White America, including here at DU, is seeing their hold on everything disappearing.

When you have made ALL the rules and you have not had to compete at the same level of everyone else because of it, and then you begin to lose that, you will be fearful, angry, etc.

[VanillaRhapsody]

2. Let me say...as a White person...

I am sorry that they are so insensitive.....

[Chitown Kev]

4. The utter hypocrisy of it is

You have a bunch of people on multiple threads complaining about the "hypersensitivity" of POC then when I give them a taste of their own medicine, they get all hypersensitive about it....because it's VIOLENT.

They didn't even get the purpose of that exercise and proved my point, exactly.

Can I actually use the "give 'em enough rope" phrase with this?...let's try it...

[VanillaRhapsody]

5. they are blinded by the White...

[ismnotwasm]

39. "blinded by the white"

That's awesome!

[VanillaRhapsody]

42. ..you are welcome to use it...

[ismnotwasm]

47. I'm gonna put it in my tag line

Thank you

[Number23]

84. Look at the people taking offense and those high fiving those with the delicate fee fees

That will tell you all you need to know. People with MILES LONG histories of chasing after black posters here on DU.

I know it is small comfort but you are running up against the same crowd that all the rest of us have run up against as well. And that sure as shit is no coincidence.

[HassleCat]

3. I just don't get some people

That Stockholm Syndrome crap is way over the line. It's about a millimeter away from calling you Uncle Tom. Has that happened yet? I'm sure somebody is itching to do it, but they know they'd get banned for life.

[VanillaRhapsody]

6. like I am waiting for one to call Hillary the B word...

they are itching to do that too...

[LiberalArkie]

52. People call guys here "dicks" here all the time.

[VanillaRhapsody]

53. No they don't

but go ahead and call her one...

See what that gets ya! I double dog dare ya!

btw....you just "outed" yourself in my book...

[NaturalHigh]

56. Oh no - he made the book!

Do you have any idea how immature your post is?

[NaturalHigh]

7. If you want civility on DU, maybe you should try showing some yourself.

[Chitown Kev]

10. Trust me...

I know how to be a respectable negro and I know when I have to put the respectability to the side....

...but thanks for your concern, I do appreciate it.

[NaturalHigh]

13. If someone had replied to a video of a group of white people...

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ganging up on a black man with "shit happens" as you did to that video, do you think that post wouldn't have been hidden?

[ismnotwasm]

41. He then went on to make his point

"Shit happens" wasn't it. The alerter took it out of context. It was a disgusting hide

[NaturalHigh]

43. "Shit happens" wasn't the point?

It was a hell of an opening line, then. No it was not a "disgusting hide." It was well deserved.

[ismnotwasm]

45. Fuck no it wasn't the point

And it was a disgusting hide

[NaturalHigh]

48. Have it your way. I would have voted to hide.

It was making light of a racist beating, possibly a hate crime.

[ismnotwasm]

49. No it wasn't

And I will have it my way--I don't need your permission

[NaturalHigh]

51. "Shit happens" wasn't making light of that beating? Seriously?

I get that you want to defend the guy, but that pretty much shoots down your credibility from the start.

[Chitown Kev]

55. My question on that post was

why bring it up at all?

Examples like the video shown are used by right-wingers to absolve themselves of their own racism and participation in systemic white supremacy..

Mind you, I have personally ended friendships with other black people because they have (in my judgment in the context of the friendship) a rather hateful and bigoted attitude toward those that they deem "other." I still remember a bit of the ridicule that I received from some members of my family when I invited a white classmate of mine over to play Atari.

This is not an issue that I am insensitive to, by any means.

[ismnotwasm]

57. I don't need you to validate my credibility either

'that" doesn't shoot down shit.

[NaturalHigh]

58. That's good. Otherwise you would be off to a rough start.

[ismnotwasm]

77. I'm not off to any damn "start"

And damn straight it's "good".

[JustAnotherGen]

86. Don't respond anymore - Group Host

Ive asked the pister to leave and given a first and last warning.


You are a regular - so you get to stay. Don't engage.

[ismnotwasm]

87. Okey dokey

[saturnsring]

54. lol

[jack_krass]

119. Yes it was

[yardwork]

65. I'm white, and even I saw the point.

Consider how angry you might be as a black man. Empathy. It's very illuminating.

[bravenak]

11. This is the AA group, not gdp.

[VanillaRhapsody]

27. Looks like we found one...

[JustAnotherGen]

91. This one is one I'm familiar with

Best not to engage. It's just trouble. Off to GD with them and a sinking post. I've asked her to leave.

[JustAnotherGen]

85. Group Host

Please leave the African American Group and do not come back. 1st and Last warning - thanks.

[Bread and Circus]

8. Hey I am here. At your invitation. And this is how you discuss issues?

Good job?

[bravenak]

9. No need to come to the AA group being aggressive.

This is a safe zone. Thanks.

[Bread and Circus]

19. I was told to come here so I did. I was told this is the place where issues should be discussed.

Then I find this... which is a resentment thread and one of my posts is used as fodder.

And I am not supposed to be aggressive.

Yeah that sounds fair.

Y'all can kick me out of the this group if you want.

But as it stands now I have searched this whole front page in the African American group and I don't see one thread dedicated to economic issues.

So yeah I am out of touch and tone deaf because one would think it would warrant serious discussion both here and in DU Primaries.

I have a feeling on a day to day basis it is a real issue being discussed in African American homes. I would bet money on it if I could.

But on DU... naw... you would rather just complain about people like me who have voted for every Democratic Presidential candidate they could have voted for since they could vote. Because yeah white liberals and progressives are the enemy... even though they they are the ones who have marched with you and worked to help you since Civil Rights times.

Makes a lot of sense.

[bravenak]

21. Are you proud of this post?

[Bread and Circus]

63. Very.

[Chitown Kev]

22. Actually you got here late...very late...for one

2) Something else just went down and I used your post as an example of a post that seemed to me (an African American) insensitive to African Americans...and the subject of insensitivity has been a hot-button issue.

But then you want to scoff and say that "we don't discuss economic issues enough"...we can and do over here all the time but you should come correctly when in this house...which brings us back to the issue at hand...

Maybe knock on the door instead of banging on the door and we might answer it...if that analogy seems appropriate.

[Bread and Circus]

102. This is going to be my last post on this thread and this forum

I get that you feel agrieved upon or worse by white people. I am assuming youbare throwing me in that lot of those who give you grief.

It is not my intention do so.

But I am not sorry for what I have said today and I will not be intimidated or cowed into submission by ranting and piling on in order to take the anger you probably feel for other people who have truly wronged you in your life.

I truly do think you guys should... yes should... talk more about economic issues in GD Primaries. Not for your benefit but for all of ours. Not everybody knows how economically bad it is for black folks.

I am sorry you don't like my attitude but in the end I am not you enemy and will likely support policies that support you.

You can gripe at me in GD Primaries there all day if you want. It's fair game over there.

[Squinch]

26. So, let's review: today, you learned that African Americans in the US have a high rate of

poverty. You learned this because Bernie told you about it. Apparently, you were unaware of it before.

Bernie told you about it, and it was a revelation to you.

But because you have become aware of it, you feel as if it is incumbent upon you to demand that we all discuss it. A lot. Right now. In no other context than the fact that Bernie made you aware of it.

And if we don't discuss it, and if we all don't vote for Bernie, according to you we are uninterested in high poverty rates among African Americans.

Seriously, your comments and behavior about all this make you the poster child for "clueless privilege."

[VanillaRhapsody]

29. You can't help it....

you are racked with "Stockholm Syndrome" after all!

[Squinch]

37. Husker do, baby!

(That's the only Swedish phrase I know, and I'm not even sure its Swedish.)

[unblock]

111. norwegian ("husker du" -> "do you remember")

[Squinch]

115. Thank you.

(Tak? I got that from watching The Bridge. Is that Swedish or Danish?)

[unblock]

120. basically the same in all the scandinavian languages, just spelled differently

norwegian: takk
swedish: tack
danish: tak

also icelandic: takk

fun with google translate

[Bread and Circus]

30. He is discussing it. You are not. That's the issue.

Maybe you should be?

[yardwork]

32. Should, should, should..... Listen to yourself.

As a white person, I implore you to listen to yourself and others. Stop telling black people what they should do.

[Bread and Circus]

69. Yet you are telling me what I should do. Hmmm... do you hear yourself?

And how many times have I read lately what what people should and shouldn't say to black people on DU? Or what topics we can and can't discuss? Or which forums we should go to and just "listen"?

Most of the "telling people what to do" is coming from people like you.

[yardwork]

70. You bet your sweet buppy I'm telling you what to do.

You're in the African American group telling black people what they SHOULD do and I, a fellow whitey, am telling you to knock it off.

I tell white people telling racist jokes to knock it off, too. I'm bossy that way.

[Bread and Circus]

74. Ok so you admit you are telling me what to do.

I am glad I am not imagining things.

[Number23]

90. Who "invited" you to the AA forum? Please show me the post where you were "invited"

Post #15 in this thread makes it clear that the invitation was really nothing of the sort.

[Chitown Kev]

92. LOL, he's referring

to this post here.

Not exactly an invitation but it was a decent troll, if I do say so myself...

If y'all would rather I not do that again, then I won't.

[Codeine]

121. Jury results.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Nov 14, 2015, 10:03 AM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter, please stop the targeting of certain members of our community. Thank you in advance. Leave It Alone!!!
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Stop being a crybaby because the mean, scary black people got sick of you lecturing them about their self-interests.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Nope. Alerter, quit stalking the AA group.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[H2O Man]

122. Thank you.

I was going to post the results myself.

[Bread and Circus]

93. Chi Town Kev. Go look at my thread he linked in this OP.

But then he kind of disinvited me...sort of... but rather said he never really invited me in the first place and then said he really was just "trolling" me.

His comments are above.

I didn't think it was very nice but what did I really expect?

So yeah... don't worry I won't go outside of this thread and cause trouble.

I respect that this is supposed to be a safe place for AA's without vitriol or rancor.

Although I will say I am surprised at what I did find here in this forum. It is pretty eye opening.

[JustAnotherGen]

98. Your posts were a perfect example

Although I will say I am surprised at what I did find here in this forum. It is pretty eye opening.

Full post :

Bread and Circus
93. Chi Town Kev. Go look at my thread he linked in this OP.

But then he kind of disinvited me...sort of... but rather said he never really invited me in the first place and then said he really was just "trolling" me.

His comments are above.

I didn't think it was very nice but what did I really expect?

So yeah... don't worry I won't go outside of this thread and cause trouble.

I respect that this is supposed to be a safe place for AA's without vitriol or rancor.

Although I will say I am surprised at what I did find here in this forum. It is pretty eye opening.

[Number23]

104. "Although I will say I am surprised at what I did find here in this forum."

Judging by your paternalistic dismissiveness combined with your inability (unwillingness?) to understand or appreciate intellect or different points of view when they are right in front of you, I don't doubt that for a second.

[Agschmid]

75. +1

[Squinch]

36. He mentioned it. Big freaking deal. The minimum wage is an issue that has come to

the forefront, and I believe that any of the democratic candidates, if elected, will address it to their best ability. The wind is at the back of that issue now (and please, don't be foolish and suggest that is because Bernie mentioned it in a speech,) and it is on the minds of most Americans who have been paying attention.

If you have come late to that party, so that it is your belief that Bernie invented the act of talking about the issue, perhaps there are better things you can be doing with your time than telling black people, who are apparently better informed than you, how they SHOULD vote.

[Squinch]

38. And, PS, you aren't exactly discussing the issue either, are you? You are simply telling

people that Bernie made you aware of this issue, which is really a very old one to most of us, and now you are instructing people to vote for him because he made you aware of it.

(But, really, seriously? It was news to you that there are high rates of poverty among African Americans? Really? Have you been living in a buried time capsule somewhere?)

It's all very, very, very silly of you.

[Bread and Circus]

97. I learned a lot about you too! So that's a bonus!

[ismnotwasm]

44. That's just friggin unbelievable

"but as it stands now I have searched the whole front page in the African American group and I don't see one thread dedicated to economic issues"

Sweet Jesus

[yardwork]

64. Poster has a new OP in GD-P.

Why won't Hillary supporters discuss the issues? Why oh why?

He's just a lonely little onion in a petunia patch.

[Chitown Kev]

66. I don't now why the person (apparently) assumes that I'm a Hillary supporter

since I have clearly said that I'm not on multiple occasions.

[yardwork]

68. But, you're black.

Face palm. Don't all black peoples think alike? "You people" are all supporting Hillary, which is sad, because you don't know what's good for you. You SHOULD support Bernie, and you will after white boy explains it to you. If you listen and don't act all stubborn and stuff. Like the girls who keep playing the gender card.

[ismnotwasm]

81. And that's another thing

It's not about an "either/or" political situation" *I* know you don't support Hillary--you've had at least one OP that I know of pretty critical of her.

That in no way lessens the validity of your points on race/race relations. It doesn't have a damn thing to do with it --you'll have to forgive me--I usually don't get pissed off like this. In fact It takes a whole to get me there, more power than your average invisible internet people have--but repeatedly seeing racism redefined for convienence sake pushes every button I have.

[gwheezie]

110. Oh dear

I am a fan of yours. I read all your posts. You've been clear about your lack of support for Hillary. I wonder why anyone would assume you support Hillary. Could be of course not all white people believe gay black males support Hillary because ya know its automatic.
This assumption just sorta proves the point you have made to some white people who have read your posts. Of course that's not all white people.

[1StrongBlackMan]

118. Because you are not an enthusiastic, full bore, he can do no wrong Bernie supporter. IOWs ...

A thinking man.

[Bread and Circus]

72. Have you been able to find anything in regards to health care?

I was hoping you found a link or two.

[yardwork]

76. It was years ago on old DU. I'll never find links.

[ismnotwasm]

83. Good way to put it

Gawd.

[Number23]

89. Found on the front page of the AA forum

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118731651
http://www.democraticunderground.com/118731675
http://www.democraticunderground.com/118731336
http://www.democraticunderground.com/118731030
http://www.democraticunderground.com/118730966

Five FUCKING articles on the front page of the AA forum related to economic issues. And that's in between the dozens of others that discuss racism in housing, profiling, media, sport, prison sentencing etc.

So it's no wonder you are having such a hard time relating to our people and not being offensive. You seem utterly incapable of understanding what we're even talking about amongst OURSELVES let alone how you can interject yourself into the conversation without sounding tone deaf, inane and incredibly offensive.

[JustAnotherGen]

95. I asked him and Natural High to go

There is no value added to their intrusion on the group.

[Number23]

105. Absolutely agree. Which is why I was wondering who'd "invited" him to the group

That "invitation" was if anything, an invitation for him him/her to listen and learn, not preach to the people who already know far more than he ever will. Shocking that he seemed to misunderstand that.

[JustAnotherGen]

94. Group Host: Normally we give first and last warning

You didn't find one Econimic thread and are disappointed? You are out of touch with the black community.

Bread and Circus (7,845 posts)
19. I was told to come here so I did. I was told this is the place where issues should be discussed.

Then I find this... which is a resentment thread and one of my posts is used as fodder.

And I am not supposed to be aggressive.

Yeah that sounds fair.

Y'all can kick me out of the this group if you want.

But as it stands now I have searched this whole front page in the African American group and I don't see one thread dedicated to economic issues.

So yeah I am out of touch and tone deaf because one would think it would warrant serious discussion both here and in DU Primaries.

I have a feeling on a day to day basis it is a real issue being discussed in African American homes. I would bet money on it if I could.

But on DU... naw... you would rather just complain about people like me who have voted for every Democratic Presidential candidate they could have voted for since they could vote. Because yeah white liberals and progressives are the enemy... even though they they are the ones who have marched with you and worked to help you since Civil Rights times.

Makes a lot of sense.

We are being murdered by members of your precious government. Ain't no money if there ain't no life.

You can see yourself to the door.

Thanks - Group Host Getting the last word on your presence in here.

[Chitown Kev]

15. I didn't invite you over here, exactly

I said that since you were asking a question about "black issues" with regard to the minimum wage, that this might be a more appropriate forum to address those issues.

It was a suggestion (and, admittedly, a bit of trolling) and not an invitation.

[yardwork]

25. Since you're here, I have a question.

Are you currently supporting the ACA, aka Obamacare? I recall that you used to be strongly opposed to the idea.

[Bread and Circus]

28. I am a physician. I take care of poor people. I absolutely support the ACA.

And I have always been a huge supporter of Obama.

However I really would like having a public option for public insurance for everyone.

So I like the ACA but I wished it went further.

I would have only argued it didn't go far enough.

[yardwork]

31. I remember a very different stance from you.

You often posted about how expensive healthcare reform would be, and that we couldn't afford it.

I tangled with you numerous times on this.

[Bread and Circus]

59. The affordable care act? Show me the links.

I supported Obama in 2007 and 2008. This was his centerpiece legislation. It helps me financially. It helps my patients medically.

To the vest I can remember I would have only argued it didn't go far enough.

The only other thing is I might have been against Hillary's mandate. But probably in so much as I supported Obama's political view on the matter. Obama caved on the mandate but also caved on the public option.

I didn't get exactly what I wanted but what I wanted would have been more comprehensive.

I remind people often in my office of the benefits of the ACA.

Show me past links though. I am open to discussion.

[ismnotwasm]

46. I'm a registered nurse.

What's your field?

[Bread and Circus]

61. primary care

[yardwork]

67. I'm also in the healthcare field, and interested to learn more.

[Bread and Circus]

73. I am still waiting for your links.

[yardwork]

78. You're gonna wait a long time. I never promised links.

[Bread and Circus]

82. Because you can't find any because what you said is a lie

or a manufactured memory.

[ismnotwasm]

79. Okey dokey

[PersonNumber503602]

12. I can easily understand the issue with the first thread you linked to.

I don't know if the person who posted intended it to come off as condescending, but it definitely did.

I'm not seeing the issue with the second post though. It seems like a fair enough question ask and discuss. I'm not saying the logic behind the question is correct, but rather that it's a fair question to prove wrong/right/something in the middle (I personally have avoid taking any position on anything this election season... Way too messy for my liking) It's no different than asking why poor and lower middle class white people insist on supporting republicans who want to screw them over. However you feel about the issue, it's still a fair question that should be open for discussion.


*whoops, just noticed what forum this was in. I don't wanna stir any pots here. I wont be hurt if you remove it because you feel it's out of line for this forum.

[yardwork]

24. My posts in that thread explain why I find it offensive.

It's always offensive for a member of a privileged group to tell a minority group that they "should" think such and so. At the very least, it is condescending to assume that we know what others "should" think and do about their own situation.

Even worse, that thread is clearly implying that any black person who doesn't support Sanders is a fool or worse. So the poster is being disingenuous. They don't really care about helping black people. It's obviously intended to bash anybody who doesn't support Sanders.

[Squinch]

34. I think it's also not likely that Bernie will do more about this issue than

either of the other candidates. I think they will all address it to the best of their ability, and they all see it as an issue to be addressed.

[yardwork]

40. I agree. I don't see much if any difference in their approach on this issue.

As a lesbian, I also see little difference in their likely future approach to gay issues.

[Chitown Kev]

50. You're OK

You asked a question and I don't think you are trying to be condescending.

[upaloopa]

14. I don't get the motive behind your posts.

[Chitown Kev]

16. This specific one?

I'll speak to that.

The double-standards and hypocrisies of white-people never cease to drive me temporarily insane.

[upaloopa]

18. This one and the other one.

Being a white person I am very interested in your feelings for lack of a better word.
I like to listen to Malcolm X's speeches. He went to Mecca and after said that all white people are not devils.

[Chitown Kev]

23. I didn't (and don't) need for Malcolm X to tell me that.

I am more of the James Baldwin type, though, where I do see that the overwhelming majority of white people (even f they are well meaning) do like to proclaim their innocence and, like Baldwin, I do have a tendency not to allow white people (or straight people, for that matter...and in that case, that includes members of my own family) not to hide under a rock of innocence.

EDIT: To add this link to Baldwin's famous letter to his Nephew with the appropriate quote

I know what the world has done to my brother and how narrowly he has survived it and I know, which is much worse, and this is the crime of which I accuse my country and my countrymen and for which neither I nor time nor history will ever forgive them, that they have destroyed and are destroying hundreds of thousands of lives and do not know it and do not want to know it. One can be--indeed, one must strive to become--tough and philosophical concerning destruction and death, for this is what most of mankind has been best at since we have heard of war; remember, I said most of mankind, but it is not permissible that the authors of devastation should also be innocent. It is the innocence which constitutes the crime.

[tishaLA]

17. watch your back, Kev

the alerters are swarming...

[gwheezie]

20. Some people can't help themselves

White people just have to have the last word. Some, not all white people (I think from now on that phrase needs to be used at all times so some not all white people are clear we are talking about some not all white people) just can't let a poc make a statement without correcting the poc. Some not all white people hear micro aggression every time someone says white people. Of course not all white people.

[VanillaRhapsody]

33. You should just put

"not all White people" into your sig line...just for insurance...in case you forgot to immunize the White people with "Patella Jolt" syndrome!

[giftedgirl77]

35. The perpetual listen to us lowly minorities we know what's

good for you is deafening on this board. I really don't understand how these ppl survive in the real world.

[saturnsring]

60. shit happens

[yardwork]

62. The problem is clearly that we are allergic to discussing issues.

[Bread and Circus]

71. It wasn't that way in 2007 / 2008 when I supported Obama. What happened?

[Kind of Blue]

112. What happened is you seemed to have

missed that we have nationally the ability to speak out strongly against the tragic amount of needless deaths, police brutality, incarceration, the state of affairs on college campuses, the sympathy for whites dealing with drug addiction, all of these and more are the underpining of the whole structure of white supremacy, and of the economic issues you're so concerned we should be so concerned about. You missed and are missing the point of existence without harm. You're a physician and I think you Should get that.

[randys1]

80. here ya go

[brer cat]

88. That was a bad hide, Kev.

Reading the thread I thought the post you were responding to was supposed to be a "gotcha" to shut you down. Instead you came out swinging. I think the lesson, beyond the obvious double standard here, is that any discussion of racism is less important than the right of the white being accused to his defense, usually at the maturity level of a preadolescent.

[Chitown Kev]

107. Thank you

I'm actually a pretty sensitive person to the topic but I also know gotcha stuff when I see.

[mcar]

96. Oh yeah there's a double standard

Middle aged white woman here. Those two linked OPs are disgusting and should never have been left standing. But of course your post gets a hide because ....

[MADem]

99. Now you know, Kev. Now you know.

I know you came on here thinking that this place was a bit better than it actually is (especially around national elections--it can get ugly up in here).

There are people here who have their own agenda, and they might not care about the things that are important to many of us. They sure can get loud, and they can make their presence felt. Some of them will disappear as soon as the elections are finished, never to be seen again (for two to four years, depending on if the mid-terms are 'exciting' at all).

Sorry that happened to you. I am saddened but not surprised.

[yardwork]

116. Very good point about posters coming and going.

The same posting name might not be managed by the same person. There's a lot that isn't what it appears on the Internet. Some people's goals are way different from ours.

[JustAnotherGen]

100. Wow

The second link - my gut instinct?

What's In It For Them?


My next instinct - to point out that the state with the highest Median Income for black Americans is Maryland.

I think someone is running for President that was Governor there? I don't know. I'm new.

http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/01/03/10-richest-black-communities-america/

[JustAnotherGen]

101. Your hide was for the

"Shit Happens"

I notice they ignored a little boy Emmett Till being murdered reference. They don't know.

Just remember - they don't know their history in GD so you have to explain things very slowly in a gentle voice. That's when they put their listening ears on and use their indoor voices on juries.

I'm going to reference to other AfAm Members - one a group host. There are three of us - married to white men.

I don't understand (they probably get this) why I have to tip toe around ALL white men when the one I'm married to is so - direct. My mom too for that matter.


I'm not used to it.

[Chitown Kev]

103. Thank you for the support, JAG

I've never been exactly known for doing things "very slowly in a gentle voice."

My suspicion is that it wouldn't make much of a difference...but that's just a suspicion.

[Number23]

106. Listen to your suspicions. Trust your gut

They are spot on.

[gwheezie]

108. Tamir Rice

I am very sorry for the little 6 year old white boy who was killed by police but contrast the response to when Tamir Rice was killed. Of course not all white people but shit happens was the response Tamir got and all kinds of blame to the victim and his family.
If that isn't clear to of course not all white people, there is no help for them to ever grasp how distorted reality is for of course not all white people.

[JustAnotherGen]

109. This times 100

I cried for both. Not just the one that could have come from my body.

[Kind of Blue]

113. ^This!

Let alone the whole history of violence on black bodies.

[emulatorloo]

114. A terrible hide. I hate that the bullshit threads you link to are still up

Number23 said it well, many of these posters have been doing this for a long long time. They are just getting way more obvious about it.

[jack_krass]

117. Your post deserved to be hidden (if any do)

Why? Because despite white privledge, despite the fact that someone else made a post you didn't like. Despite anything....

It's simply wrong to show callous disregard to a racist attack(or any attack for that matter). It implies tacit approval. And you know damn well that you wouldn't like it if a white guy said the same in the opposite situation.

That said, I think hiding posts is silly. What's the point if it can be "seen" with one click? Yes, it cuts off the thread, but look at all the drama it causes! I'd say if the point of post hiding is to cut off the topic, it has failed and should be re-looked at

[Coolest Ranger]

123. Well if you think hiding posts are silly

tell your fellow posters to stop stalking the African American group then. It's clear to a lot of us that certain posters do not like anything that they perceive of as an attack

[JustAnotherGen]

125. Asked him to leave

Reached out to MIR.

Done - his post would never get hidden in spite of it being malicious, vicious and mean spirited. I don't play patty cake with the passive aggressive ones.

[JustAnotherGen]

124. Leave the AfAm Group - Group Host

Do not come back.

You won't be tolerated and I'm certainly not going to celebrate you.

[jack_krass]

126. LOL

Fine. You are heretofore prohibited from reading, or responding to any of my postings, on this board, or any other, permanantly. Now away with you

[JustAnotherGen]

127. Another one for MIRT - jack_krass

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 03:10 PM
jack_krass
126. LOL

Fine. You are heretofore prohibited from reading, or responding to any of my postings, on this board, or any other, permanantly. Now away with you

Last warning.

I'm a snot. And a rich bitch. So bye - back in your place with you.

ETA - That block felt good!

[randys1]

129. Rich b word

of all your characteristics, that one (or two, money and female, oh and worst of all BLACK) really drives them crazy

[Coolest Ranger]

130. You think that's funny?

Good grief.

[mwrguy]

128. That's some bullshit

Whoever hid that should be ashamed.

[LanternWaste]

131. Judging from the both the peevish hide and the number of less-than-sincere responses...

Judging from the both the peevish hide and by the number of less-than-sincere responses in this thread, the illustration clearly drawn for us by the buffoonish half-wits is that simply discussing racism is as wicked, as reprehensible and as vile as is racism itself.

I don't think the double standards are predicated on mere ignorance (on DU, that is); I think it's predicated on willful ignorance.

[randys1]

132. Privilege allows for laziness and unwillingness to acknowledge anyone else's

condition.

I wonder how well the privileged will handle losing privilege.