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[JustAnotherGen]

***Posted in African American Group***


Transcripts found at the times and NBC news - better capture from the times so I used that. Watching at 4:19 am this morning.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/us/politics/transcript-of-the-democratic-presidential-debate.html?_r=0

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/transcript-msnbc-democratic-candidates-debate-n511036

MADDOW: In 1964, I heard that the Republicans nominated Barry Goldwater, who was the hero of the conservative movement. He was, however, far to the right of most of that party. In 1972, the Democrats nominated George McGovern, who was a hero of liberals in the antiwar movement, but he was to the left of his party’s mainstream.

Both of those nominees made activists very excited, and they both got destroyed in the general election. Even Democrats who love you worry about your fate in a general election. And I know you have good head-to-head polling numbers against Republican frontrunners right now. We know that. But do you have a general election strategy that is different than the way you’re running right now to try to get the nomination?

Sanders 
These are polls. Polls go up. Polls go down. But here’s why I think I will be, if nominated, the strongest candidate. Democrats win when there is a large voter turnout; when people are excited; when working people, middle class people and young people are prepared to engage in the political process.

Republicans win when people are demoralized and you have a small voter turnout, which by the way is why they love voter suppression. I believe that our campaign up to now has shown that we can create an enormous amount of enthusiasm from working people, from young people, who will get involved in the political process and which will drive us to a very large voter turnout.

If there is a large voter turnout, not only do we retain the White House, but I think we regain the Senate. We win governors’ chairs up and down the line. So I believe if you want to retain the White House, if you want to see Democrats do well across the board, I think our campaign is the one that creates the large voter turnout and helps us win.

MADDOW: Secretary Clinton, your campaign surrogates, and people who have endorsed you, have suggested that or even said that if Senator Sanders is the nominee, that Democrats will suffer nationwide and the chances will go down of Democrats holding onto the White House. With him here standing next to you, can you tell us whether or not you believe he would win the general election if he were nominated?

CLINTON: I can only tell you what I believe, and that is that I am the strongest candidate to take it to the Republicans and win in November.

(APPLAUSE)

And I say that with great — with great respect for the campaign that Senator Sanders has been running. I personally am thrilled at the numbers of people, and particularly young people who are coming to support your campaign. I hope that I will be able to earn their support. They may not support me now, but I support them and we’ll work together.

But what I’m concerned about is the views of many Democrats who know their states, who know how hard it is to win a general election. And it also will push whoever the nominee is into the spotlight. I’ve been vetted. There’s hardly anything you don’t know about me. And I think it’s fair to say that whoever is in that position, Senator Sanders or anyone else who might have run, will face the most withering onslaught.

So, I think that I am the person who can do all aspects of the job. I think I’m the person best prepared to take the case to the Republicans. And I think that at the end of the day, it’s not so much electability. It is who the American people can believe can keep them safe, can get the economy moving again, can get incomes rising, can build on the progressive accomplishments of President Obama.

And I think that the coalition that President Obama put together to win twice is a coalition that I can put together and add to. And that’s what I’m prepared to...

They should have been asked te exact same question - Who is your coalition?

Dammit - they both need to "say her name". That's all.

[The Polack MSgt]

1. I wish the follow up question was asked

Bernie's answer is his normal spiel, but Hillary's was basically a reverse dog whistle.

Bringing up Obama and his supporters without mentioning A.A. people is something that Republicans do all the time. Although they do it mainly to disparage "those folks" with a bit of racist deniability built in.



It looks strange coming from the other side of the political spectrum

[JustAnotherGen]

3. She could have and should have nailed it

The female black voting block is hers to lose - and she needs to run AT that in the Primary.

[1StrongBlackMan]

2. I watched the debates and almost turned it off after the opening remarks ...

I knew I was going to hear more of what I have already been told.

But one was more disappointingly (though not unexpectedly) consistent than the other with respect to what concerns me most.

[emulatorloo]

4. Someone attempted to answer every question with a well-rehearsed paragraph from a stump speech

Didn't seem to matter what the question was. I think we are probably in agreement as to which candidate that was.

[1StrongBlackMan]

5. Given your avatar, I doubt it. eom.

[emulatorloo]

6. Yes I have an avatar. Doesn't mean I can't view a debate with some objectivity.

I'm saying that the answer to every question isn't stump-speech boilerplate about 'billionaires and banks'. That's what I saw over and over last night. When he wanted to avoid a question, he just pulled out another paragraph.

So yeah, I think we probably agree in our accessment of the candidate's performances in last night's debate.

Sorry for the earlier obtuseness.

[1StrongBlackMan]

7. No ... My error! ... I am so used to tucking my chin at any movement of a shoulder ...

I missed what you were saying.

[emulatorloo]

8. ...

"I am so used to tucking my chin at any movement of a shoulder..."

Totally get that, I admire the hell out of you for still posting at DU after all the garbage and willful misinterpretation that's been thrown at you and all the other great posters here.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

9. I can't stand Hillary Clinton, but I actually think she did well.

[randys1]

10. If I worked for her campaign and I had a brain, I would ask you why, why cant you

stand her, specifically?

I have reasons why I cant stand her at times myself, I am just curious about yours.

[Number23]

11. I didn't watch any of this debate and heard that it has so far been the worse one of them all by far

But Sanders was right on the money when he said this:

Republicans win when people are demoralized and you have a small voter turnout, which by the way is why they love voter suppression.

That ain't NOTHING but the truth.