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marmar

(77,081 posts)
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:57 PM Feb 2013

Ryan Braun's name listed in Biogenesis clinic records


Milwaukee Brewers star Ryan Braun's name is in records of the Miami-area clinic alleged to have distributed performance-enhancing drugs to a rash of baseball players, and Major League Baseball will investigate the link to the former MVP who tested positive for illegal synthetic testosterone during the 2011 postseason.

Three of the Biogenesis clinic records obtained by Yahoo! Sports show Braun's name. Unlike the players named by the Miami New Times in its report that blew open the Biogenesis case, Braun's name is not listed next to any specific PEDs.

MLB is investigating the Biogenesis clinic and its operator, Anthony Bosch, to determine the breadth of Bosch's alleged PED dispersal throughout the sport. The league could pursue punishment through non-analytical positives – evidentiary links to players without positive tests – and one source said it will not limit the potential discipline to those whose names are surfacing for the first time, meaning those who have faced suspensions in the past could again be tried.

Braun is on a list that includes Alex Rodriguez, Melky Cabrera and Cesar Carrillo, who the New Times reported received PEDs from Bosch. Also on the list are New York Yankees catcher Francisco Cervelli and Baltimore Orioles third baseman Danny Valencia, who weren't listed near PEDs either. The record matches a document the New Times posted with Braun's name redacted and Cervelli and Valencia's cut off. .......................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ryan-braun-s-name-listed-in-biogenesis-clinic-records-235650670.html



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Ryan Braun's name listed in Biogenesis clinic records (Original Post) marmar Feb 2013 OP
Strip him, ban his ass, and put the Dbacks in the WS. dbackjon Feb 2013 #1
...cuz he's a cheater. Iggo Feb 2013 #2
I'm shocked. chelsea0011 Feb 2013 #3
Braun's response--He consulted with Bosch for his appeal ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #4
Then he should be able to prove that pretty easily. Just release the chelsea0011 Feb 2013 #5
I *think* that's what he did yesterday. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #6
I admit to curiosity TZ Feb 2013 #7
I think his only hope is that he isn't linked to any PED on ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #8
apparantly. TZ Feb 2013 #9
Amen to that. This clinic is in the middle of questionable chelsea0011 Feb 2013 #11
I think it wouldn't matter anyway. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #13
My understanding, unless I'm reading it incorrectly, is that is only what he is saying... chelsea0011 Feb 2013 #10
He released a statement outlining exactly what their position was and ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #12

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
4. Braun's response--He consulted with Bosch for his appeal
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 09:40 AM
Feb 2013
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8919375/ryan-braun-admits-lawyers-consulted-anthony-bosch-appeal-positive-ped-test

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Milwaukee Brewers star Ryan Braun has acknowledged a business relationship with Anthony Bosch, claiming he only consulted with the founder of the Miami-based anti-aging clinic in order to strengthen his appeal of a 2011 positive test result for performance-enhancing drugs.

Braun released a statement Tuesday in response to a report by Yahoo! Sports, which claimed the outfielder's name is listed in records obtained from Biogenesis of America LLC, the clinic that allegedly provided PEDs to several high profile baseball players.

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"During the course of preparing for my successful appeal last year, my attorneys, who were previously familiar with Tony Bosch, used him as a consultant," Braun said in his statement. "More specifically, he answered questions about T/E ratio and possibilities of tampering with samples."

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That said... I don't really care.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
6. I *think* that's what he did yesterday.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:27 AM
Feb 2013

Apparently his name shows up on an amounts owing list by Bosch--because of a discrepancy in what was owed for legal services.

Me? I think we're spending too much time on this issue altogether.

TZ

(42,998 posts)
7. I admit to curiosity
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:09 AM
Feb 2013

WHY he would pick this particular clinic to consult on this. Its a little suspicious.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
8. I think his only hope is that he isn't linked to any PED on
Reply to TZ (Reply #7)
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:20 AM
Feb 2013

a specific list like the others. I also think its stupid for his lawyers (if that's what happened) to contact Bosch for help.

But, like Brian Billick said on ESPN last week, it's enough these days just to say "Performance Enhancing Drugs" alongside a player's name to destroy their cred.

TZ

(42,998 posts)
9. apparantly.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:35 AM
Feb 2013

I'm still a supporter of Gio Gonzalez because he's never been linked before but his dad DID go there. *sigh*

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
11. Amen to that. This clinic is in the middle of questionable
Reply to TZ (Reply #7)
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 03:00 PM
Feb 2013

practices. So the Braun team use someone under a cloud for only information. It stinks to high heaven and I think Braun will wish he hadn't said anything.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
13. I think it wouldn't matter anyway.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 03:05 PM
Feb 2013

Player name--->PEDs<-----------guilty in the court of public opinion.

How I wish, since we're making such a big deal over these things now, they would exhume the bodies of all pre-testing greats and test them for any number of banned substances.

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
10. My understanding, unless I'm reading it incorrectly, is that is only what he is saying...
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 02:56 PM
Feb 2013

that nothing from Braun or his attorneys has been released.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
12. He released a statement outlining exactly what their position was and
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 03:03 PM
Feb 2013

where he stands on it.

I linked to it.

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