If Religions Were Real (TRIGGER WARNING! VIOLENCE!)

[snooper2]

well, that trigger warning thing should be a known given the subject matter but anyway-



If Religions Were Real!

[hrmjustin]

1. Too violent.

[snooper2]

2. sorry it came right out of scripture LOL

[hrmjustin]

3. Scripture can be violent.

But I could have done without the crunch when he broke the guys neck.

[skepticscott]

5. Not watching the video

with the big loud violence warning would have been the way to do without it, dude.

[hrmjustin]

6. I was giving an opinion.

[ZombieHorde]

4. That was kick ass. nt

[rug]

7. Religions are real.

[AtheistCrusader]

8. So is my invisible 9 foot tall rabbit friend, named 'George'.

I have it on good authority, from my friend Russell, that there's a teapot in orbit around Jupiter too.

[rug]

9. Does your invisible rabbit have billions of followers as well?

[AtheistCrusader]

10. What's the threshold to it being 'real'? 2 people? 100? 1bn?

How many tens of trillions does it need to steal from the world before it's real?

That's a great question, glad you asked it.

[rug]

11. Science. There's ample evidence that religion exists.

Sorry you ignore it.

[AtheistCrusader]

16. There's ample evidence that humans have created social constructs called 'religion', yes.

Beyond that, whiff and a miss.

[rug]

18. Which is the title of this juvenile smarm.

I am surprised neither by its imprecision nor by your missing it.

[AtheistCrusader]

22. It's a series covering scenarios right out of source documentation for major world religions.

Surely you didn't miss that?

[rug]

24. I know what it attempts. And for what it attempts, it fails.

[AtheistCrusader]

27. If you say so, I suppose.

[rug]

29. Most cherry-picking has the same result.

[AtheistCrusader]

34. Oh, it's cherry picking now. I see.

[rug]

37. Not only is it cherry picking, it's also picking only the bright red ones.

[AtheistCrusader]

47. Bright red happens, when two bears maul the shit out of 42 kids at god's behest.

[rug]

48. Really? Was that real?

[AtheistCrusader]

51. I don't believe so. But at least I'm consistent. I don't feel the need to attempt to defend

a story that isn't real.

Or is it real to you?

[rug]

52. Me either. I do, however, feel compelled to dismiss sloppy critiques.

[AtheistCrusader]

55. Oh, it's sloppy now.

The amazing, magical, moveable goal posts dance away again.

[rug]

56. No, it's always been sloppy.

As I pointed out in the first post. Granted, you didn't realize it for four posts.

[AtheistCrusader]

58. Your post is precisely as imprecise as the title of the OP.

An OP whose context is painfully obvious, I might add.

[enki23]

36. Because an all-powerful, all-benevolent being just has to be a piece of shit sometimes.

A "you're cherry picking" defense can be legitimate against almost anything *but* an omni-whatever deity. The typical omni-whatever deity doesn't get to be an omni-whatever if it fails even once. That's a tough burden of proof, but that's what stupid claims get you. The only alternative is to claim deific incompetence.

[rug]

40. Pay attention.

The thread is about religion not piñatas.

[enki23]

67. The troll thing is all you've actually got anymore, I take it.

You open with the ridiculously stupid semantic "real vs. true," and the rest is just youtube level snark.

[rug]

68. And this lamenesss is all you'ver ever had.

Because an all-powerful, all-benevolent being just has to be a piece of shit sometimes.

A "you're cherry picking" defense can be legitimate against almost anything *but* an omni-whatever deity. The typical omni-whatever deity doesn't get to be an omni-whatever if it fails even once. That's a tough burden of proof, but that's what stupid claims get you. The only alternative is to claim deific incompetence.

Unrolling clichés.

[enki23]

69. It's cliche to say Santa doesn't exist. But he doesn't.

When you make a stupid cliche claim, it's cliche to call it stupid. It remains stupid. It's cliche to call the emperor naked. He's still fucking naked. It's cliche to demand evidence for magic. And yet, people still tell you it's real.

It's only cliche to call stupid stupid because the stupid won't stop being stupid.

(And last I checked, you were the one who accused somebody of "cherry-picking" which is pretty fucking cliche. Touche. I'll call this one myself. It's not the nonbelievers' fault we go in these circles. You are the ones who keep going round them. My reasoning is linear. That's why people on the merry-go-round think it's a fucking tangent.)

[rug]

70. And repeating stupid cliches confirms stupidity.

As does repeating "stupid" seven times.

Trolling, indeed.

[enki23]

71. Seriously? All you can do is the "rubber/glue" thing?

.

[rug]

72. Congratulations. You didn't type "stupid".

[enki23]

73. Ok. Bye troll.

.

[rug]

74. Take your cliches with you.

[hrmjustin]

12. That is rather insulting!

[AtheistCrusader]

13. Can you prove that there isn't?

[hrmjustin]

17. I am not even going to bother.

[AtheistCrusader]

19. I am curious why you found it insulting though.

[hrmjustin]

21. Religion is real and you gave that response.

I think it is self-evident

[AtheistCrusader]

25. Do you accept the story, played out in this video, as real or not?

It's a little unfair to expect a single scene to deal with the entirety of the bible in one go.

[hrmjustin]

28. I am not talking about the video. I am talking about your response.

Religions are real. That is a fact, yet you poo-poo us with you invisible friend.

[AtheistCrusader]

35. One good invisible friend deserves another.

[hrmjustin]

41. Have fun with your friend.

[rug]

20. Be careful. He'll tell his friend Russell.

[hrmjustin]

23. He is coming to get me!

[rug]

26. As long as it's not the rabbit!

Imagine the size of its teeth.

[hrmjustin]

30. Bugs was always nice.

[rug]

31. Yeah, but you could see him coming.

[hrmjustin]

32. True. It is always those damn Jupiter Rabbits that cause the trouble.

Can't they just leave us alone.

[AtheistCrusader]

39. Ah, another fictional character with similar levels of evidence.

Honestly, I don't envy you. I'd hate to have to defend that pile of bullshit too.

[rug]

42. I'd hate to go through life viewing things through cartoons.

[AtheistCrusader]

44. I can turn the cartoons off.

Worldviews, take a little more effort.

[rug]

46. They do. You can do it eventually.

[AtheistCrusader]

33. That's how I respond at the baseball game when the shitheads that shout at children about burning in

hell tell me all about your imaginary friend.

Frankly, I think 'believing' in George is far less harmful. Besides I saw him in an episode of Bonanza once.

[hrmjustin]

38. You are equating you little rabbits with the great religions of the world that are clearly real.

You can prove they are real.

[AtheistCrusader]

43. Religions as social constructs? Sure, everywhere I look. Religions as representing real metaphysical

supernatural entities? Not a shred of evidence.

[hrmjustin]

45. Oh Lord! Rug said they are real! You can prove they are real!

[AtheistCrusader]

49. In the same context that 'The road' is a real story.

Yeah, it's real. You can read it. Lots of people like it. It's got pages and everything.


Still not 'real', as in non-fiction.

[hrmjustin]

50. Whatever. Now you know why I found it insulting.

[AtheistCrusader]

53. No, I don't. I don't get upset when someone else rejects an idea that I happen to hold to be

true. It's not offensive to me, to disagree.


We ARE talking about an idea here. One that you seem to have already accepted as not literal truth, correct? If the stories in the bible were real, literal truth, it goes down something like the anthropomorphic bears in the OP video.

[hrmjustin]

54. Well I thought the rabbit thing was insulting.

[AtheistCrusader]

57. I similarly find the idea that the bible contains anything like 'truth', 'beauty', or anything

relevant to explaining the universe and our place in it, insulting.

[hrmjustin]

59. I am sure you doand I willdefend your right to believe that.

[AtheistCrusader]

60. As long as I don't say it? Or construct allegories that might reflect it?

[hrmjustin]

61. Did I not say I would defend your right to say it?

I stillfind it insulting. Am I allowed my opinion?

[AtheistCrusader]

62. You said 'believe', so just checking.

You are free to find it insulting. I asked you why, I didn't say you weren't allowed to feel that way.

[hrmjustin]

63. Well I will just have to live with it.

I hope your rabbit behaves.

[AtheistCrusader]

64. He's ok. It's the invisible, pink, firebreathing dragon in the garage you gotta look out for.

[hrmjustin]

65. I will try to remember that.

[AtheistCrusader]

66. The blue one is ok, you don't have to worry about him.

[okasha]

76. You want irrational?

You dragged this thread through 66 posts because you couldn't admit that "real" and "true" don't mean the same thing in this context. Get thee to a dictionary.

And next time, let the rabbit type.

[hrmjustin]

77. Thank you!

[okasha]

78. You're welcome, amigo mio.

[AtheistCrusader]

79. Another contestant.

The context of the video title is obvious. Want to get pedantic? Me too. I'm game.

[okasha]

86. Didn't your mama ever tell you

not to do somrthing silly just because little Johnny next door is doing it?

Here's an analogy. Is Huckleberry Finn a true story? Were Huck, Pap, Jim, and Tom Sawyer all.actual people who lived by the Mississippi before the Civil War? No? Good, you get it.

Now, is Huckleberry Finn a real story? Does it have characters, a plot, a location in time and place? Of course it does, and those characteristics identify it as a real story. And being a real story has nothing to do with whether it's a true story.

See the difference?

And just out of curiosity, if religion isn't real, why do you spend so much time online complaining about something that doesn't exist? Or is that the rabbit?

[AtheistCrusader]

87. That was precisely the real/true dichotomy I specified yesterday.

Way to read the thread. (Post 49)

[okasha]

89. Wrong.

You're still pushing the same confusion of the terms tou were yesterday. "Real story" is not synonymous with "true story." "Religion is real" is not the same statement as "Religion is true." Even the latter is rather sloppy and generalized. "Religion X's teaching about Y is troe/not true" would be more accurate.

[AtheistCrusader]

90. Oh please.

re·al [ree-uhl, reel] Show IPA
adjective

1. true; not merely ostensible, nominal, or apparent: the real reason for an act.


Waste someone else's time with your bullshit.

[okasha]

91. Only you can waste your time AC.

Have a nice day. And please consider joining that blacjack game.

[AtheistCrusader]

92. Learn what the word 'Real' means and come on back and apologize.

[okasha]

75. ZOMG!!!

It's The Night of the Lepus!

Run! Run for your liiiiiv------

(Does anyone but me remember that dreadful film?)

[rug]

14. It also missed the point.

[hrmjustin]

15. Indeed!

[AtheistCrusader]

83. So what was the point?

[rug]

85. Religions are real.

[AtheistCrusader]

88. 'The Road' is real.

In precisely the same way. Filed under 'Fiction'.

[rug]

93. The merry-go-round is that way ===>

I'm getting off.

[AtheistCrusader]

94. That's ok. If I had to defend that position, i'd be frustrated too.

[cbayer]

80. That's almost as good as his Twilight Vampires in Heat Video!!

What a major talent this guy is.

Hope you will be posting more of his amazing stuff in the future!

[snooper2]

82. just found the channel I haven't had the time to check out more, but you know what else..

First time I have an OP where when I go to my posts and it now has 5 replies-

Come to the thread and I'm like- Wow super sub-thread! Am I in record terrority yet?

[cbayer]

84. Flame bait always gets this kind of response when posted in a group that

tends to be contentious to begin with. That should be no surprise.

[Starboard Tack]

81. Love it!

That'll teach those who make fun of the follically challenged.