Pope calls for compassionate Church open to 'imperfect' Catholics

[Eugene]

Source: Reuters

World | Fri Apr 8, 2016 6:06am EDT

Pope calls for compassionate Church open to 'imperfect' Catholics

VATICAN CITY | BY PHILIP PULLELLA

Pope Francis on Friday called for a Church that was less strict and more compassionate towards "imperfect" Catholics, such as those who divorced and remarried, saying "no one can be condemned forever".

Francis said gays should be respected but firmly re-stated the Church's position that there are "absolutely no grounds" to equate gay unions to heterosexual marriage.

In a 260-page treatise called "Amoris Laetitia," (The Joy of Love), one of the most eagerly awaited pronouncements of his pontificate, Francis quoted Martin Luther King, Argentine Poet Jorge Luis Borges and even the 1987 Danish cult film Babette's Feast, to make his case for a more merciful and loving Church.

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Progressives have proposed the use of an "internal forum" in which a priest or bishop work with a Catholic who has divorced and remarried to decide jointly, privately and on a case-by-case basis if he or she can be fully re-integrated and receive communion.

Francis seemed to embrace this view, saying he could "not provide a new set of general rules ... applicable to all cases", but he called for "responsible, personal and pastoral discernment of particular cases".

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-marriage-idUSKCN0X42TB

[salinsky]

1. Less nice words ....

.... more concrete compassionate actions.

[rug]

2. Here's the text:

http://w2.vatican.va/content/dam/francesco/pdf/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20160319_amoris-laetitia_en.pdf

[struggle4progress]

9. Thanks for posting the link. I haven't finished reading it, but the tone is refreshing

[Act_of_Reparation]

3. So, what's changed?

[trotsky]

4. Bingo.

Exactly as so many of us evil nasty anti-Catholic bigots called it.

[Act_of_Reparation]

5. Predictably, the Francophiles think this is a great leap forward.

Now that priests may or may not stop explicitly hating gays from the pulpit, maybe in another fifty years they may or may not stop implicitly hating gays from pulpit.

[trotsky]

6. Well you know of course that he WOULD HAVE blessed same-sex marriage and everything else...

but he can't, because his life would be in danger!!

[Act_of_Reparation]

7. Gotta watch out for those nuns with guns.

[stone space]

10. Gotta watch out for those Nuns with Hammers.

That image looks faked.

This one is real.

Unfortunately, I think that you've fallen for an internet hoax.

Nuclear weapons facility protest sends nun, two activists to prison



Knoxville, Tenn. -- Three Catholic anti-war activists, including an 84-year-old nun, were sentenced to federal prison terms Tuesday following their convictions of sabotage and destruction of government property in a case that garnered international media attention after they broke into the Y-12 National Security Complex in Oak Ridge, Tenn., near Knoxville.

Their original Jan. 28 sentencing date had been postponed after several hours of testimony because of snow.

Despite pleas for leniency from thousands of people who wrote letters and signed petitions to U.S. District Court Judge Amul R. Thapar, the three, who call themselves the Transform Now Plowshares, were given sentences totaling more than 13 years in prison. Under federal sentencing laws, they will likely serve their full sentences.

Thapar said the three longtime peace activists, Sr. Megan Rice, Greg Boertje-Obed and Michael Walli, exhibited "a complete disregard for the law" because none of them expressed remorse for their July 28, 2012, actions.


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http://ncronline.org/news/peace-justice/nuclear-weapons-facility-protest-sends-nun-two-activists-prison

Here's an old DU thread about 3 more Nuns with Hammers:

Nuns With Hammers Convicted For Sabotaging National Defense

Lawyers for three pacifist nuns sent to prison for causing minor damage at a Weld County missile silo told an appeals court in Denver today that the women should not have been convicted of sabotage because they did not impair national defense.

The three-judge panel of the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals asked several questions indicating doubt about whether the damage the nuns caused could have stopped a missile from launching.

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In a pouring rain outside the courthouse, a group of supporters held a banner reading, "They shalt beat their swords into plowshares. Nations shall learn no more war."

The nuns were convicted by a federal jury in April sabotaging the national defense and damaging government property. The nuns cut a fence and walked onto a Minuteman III silo site in October, swinging hammers and using their blood to paint a cross on the structure.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x1769710

Nuns with Hammers has been an ongoing problem for many decades, now.

They just keep Hammering away at what they consider as Idols, False Gods, Gods of Metal.

Any idea why?

[Act_of_Reparation]

11. "That image looks faked"

[stone space]

12. If you open your mind, you might find reality as compelling as fantasy.

[Act_of_Reparation]

13. Do you actually read the posts to which you respond?

Just curious.

[stone space]

14. Yes. Something about Nuns with Guns. Do you read the posts that you respons to?

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Hammers might not seem as exciting as guns, and hammer manufacturers may not have access to the same special legal protections afforded to manufacturers of such sacred items as guns in the PLCAA, but at least my post (to which you were responding) was based in reality, not fantasy.

[Act_of_Reparation]

15. So the answer is "no, then?

My post had nothing to do with guns, or nuns, either. The post was satire, mocking those who claim Pope Francis would be assassinated by his own clergy should he try to reform some of the Catholic Church's more backward positions. If you weren't roaming around the boards like an obstreperous drunk looking to inject yourself and your puerile obsessions into any conversation, irrespective of topic or context, you might have realized that and saved yourself the trouble of posting shit completely irrelevant to this thread.

[trotsky]

16. Not much gets past him! n/t

[rug]

8. Read the entire 260 pages.

Or, wait till somebody posts another gif on the internet to tell you what it means.