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Related: About this forumStar Trek Doesn't Need to Squash Beef With God
Gene Roddenberry was no saint, but he wasn't a "new atheist" either.
Ryan Britt
July 28, 2016
Standing in the radiant blue light of Gods disembodied head, Captain Kirk holds up one finger. Excuse me, he says, what does God need with a starship?
Its a fair question, albeit not the sort of query deities commonly receive in pop culture. This scene from Star Trek V: The Final Frontier blurs the line between the inhuman and the divine in a less than subtle way, but the clunkiness doesnt undermine its significance within the Star Trek canon. It represent the clearest example of the venerable sci-fi franchise tackling the big question of religion. What does God need with a starship? is a neat rephrasing of the real question: If mankind can innovate its way to godlike powers and peace, does the all-powerful become redundant?
The answer to that question and the question of whether or not Star Trek is inherently anti-religious has become more complicated for one clear reason: The shows ideology doesnt conform to modern assumptions about religion and politics or politics at all for that matter.
At the end of the Jesus-heavy, original series episode Bread and Circuses, Dr. McCoy says We represent many beliefs. The Vulcan philosophy of IDIC (infinite diversity in infinite combinations) also asserts a pluralistic view of various faiths. And yet, Treks creator the late Gene Roddenberry seemed to have harbored an overwhelmingly antipathy for organized religion, one he weaponized in his writing for the original Star Trek series, the animated series, and early movies that were never actually made.
https://www.inverse.com/article/18944-religion-star-trek-gene-roddenberry-atheist-jame-kirke-and-god
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Star Trek Doesn't Need to Squash Beef With God (Original Post)
rug
Jul 2016
OP
“For most people, religion is nothing more than a substitute for a malfunctioning brain."
LongtimeAZDem
Jul 2016
#3
And, as a side note, Roddenberry considered "Star Trek V" to be apocryphal (nt)
LongtimeAZDem
Jul 2016
#4
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)1. One of my favorite bits from TNG:
rug
(82,333 posts)2. Thanks, I hadn't seen that.
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)3. “For most people, religion is nothing more than a substitute for a malfunctioning brain."
"If people need religion, ignore them and maybe they will ignore you, and you can go on with your life. It wasn't until I was beginning to do Star Trek that the subject of religion arose. What brought it up was that people were saying that I would have a chaplain on board the Enterprise. I replied, "No, we don't.
- Gene Roddenberry
While I dislike the label "new atheist", Roddenberry absolutely was in the same group as Dawikins, Htichens, and Harris.
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)4. And, as a side note, Roddenberry considered "Star Trek V" to be apocryphal (nt)
rug
(82,333 posts)5. If you can find it, read the interview with him in The Humanist, Mar/Apr 1991.
I can't find it online, only on ebay, but it's scathing.