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HAB911

(8,867 posts)
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 05:46 PM Oct 2016

Creationist Ken Ham Says There Are No Intelligent Aliens

The search for extraterrestrial intelligence is a huge waste of time, according to creationist Ken Ham.

Ham, who runs creationist attractions in Kentucky including a supposed replica of Noah’s Ark complete with replica dinosaurs, claims that aliens can’t possibly be intelligent... because they can’t possibly exist.

Writing on his “Answers in Genesis” blog, Ham attempted to respond to Scottish astronomer Duncan Forgan, who has been running computer simulations about the possibility of alien civilizations.

Forgan lamented in a Fox News interview the difficulty of testing some theories in his simulation because of the lack of data on alien behavior.

Ham predicted that problem would never be solved.

“Real alien data will never exist because, well, aliens aren’t real!” he wrote.

While there is no evidence yet for extraterrestrial life, a number of NASA scientists have said they expect to find it in the coming decades.

“I think in the next 20 years we will find out we are not alone in the universe,” NASA astronomer Kevin Hand said in a 2014 discussion.

Hand’s boss agreed.

“It’s highly improbable in the limitless vastness of the universe that we humans stand alone,” NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said.

However, Ham wrote in his Sunday blog post that people searching for alien life are really looking for replacements for God.

“Only a life pursuing our Creator will give us the answers and purpose we seek,” he wrote.

Ham, who once debated “Science Guy” Bill Nye, wrote in 2014 that aliens ― if they did exist ― would be beyond salvation because they are not descendants of the biblical figure Adam.

“Jesus did not become the ‘GodKlingon’ or the ‘GodMartian’!” he wrote at the time. “Only descendants of Adam can be saved. God’s Son remains the ‘Godman’ as our Savior.”

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Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
1. Ham seems to have ALL the answers
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 05:50 PM
Oct 2016

it must be nice to have such a narrow mind and close it to thoughts that might challenge you to think

 

Albertoo

(2,016 posts)
8. That's because Ken has a good book while you don't
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 12:16 AM
Oct 2016

Everything is in Ken's book

What's not in the book isn't there

See? Easy.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
12. I guess we can get rid of all the other books out there
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 03:57 PM
Oct 2016

get rid of libraries, close all the schools, and just let the religious leaders educate the young

Vogon_Glory

(9,109 posts)
3. We Share This Planet With Several Different Sentiend Species
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 06:00 PM
Oct 2016

What blockheads like the Abrahamic religons' fundies and those countries still into whaling don't realize is that we already share this planet with at least several different sentient species, and have since our flint-knapping ancestors saw their first whale or dolphin carcass on some seashore over half a million years ago. The difference is that we humans haven't been able to crack the language barrier.

At this point, I'm beginning to think it might be just as well for the human race if we don't find intelligent life on other planets. I fear for humanity if intelligent aliens ever find out what we humans do to other sentient or near-sentient species and decide to do justice. Trust me, we don't want justice, we want mercy!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
6. Maybe there are stupid aliens.
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 07:02 PM
Oct 2016

Just saying.

Anyway, some one like this clown clearly has almost no understanding of just how large our own galaxy is, let alone the entire Universe.

It's certainly more than possible that the life span of any given intelligent species is at best a couple of million years, and that intelligent life forms could pop up with reasonable frequency, and never overlap in time. It may be that we are unusual as an intelligent species in that we look out at the rest of the Universe and hope to travel there. Maybe other species just don't care, or have evolved in a place where they can't see outside their own planet, and so never had an urge to look farther.

Lots of possibilities.

Just because none of them have landed on the front lawn of the White House doesn't indicate anything at all.

HAB911

(8,867 posts)
9. Yes, the possibilities are limitless, my biggest fear
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 05:43 AM
Oct 2016

is that distance is an insurmountable barrier to meaningful contact, theoretically possible in the local neighborhood but unlikely outside of the galaxy as everything is racing apart. Except Andromeda of course.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
10. As you clearly know, Milky Way and Andromeda will crash into each other
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 10:36 AM
Oct 2016

in about 4billion years or so. Brace for impact!

A while back I asked an astronomer friend how many stars would actually crash into each other, and he said, probably no more than ten. Out of 300 billion stars in Milky Way, and a trillion in Andromeda. That alone tells you just how vast interstellar distances are. And of course intergalactic distances are even vaster.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
7. Maybe Ken's mistaken. Maybe all the aliens
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 07:10 PM
Oct 2016

are "above average."

Maybe they are good at math, take piano lessons, and know a thousand languages from many worlds.

Hey, it could happen.

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