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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 05:53 PM Feb 2015

New planet-hunting tool chases after star system's little brown dwarf

New planet-hunting tool chases after star system's little brown dwarf

The Sphere instrument on the VLT in Chile peers with all its might into the blackness around a binary star system and returns a surprise for astronomers.

by Michael Franco

@writermfranco
/February 18, 2015 5:30 AM PST

Usually, stories related to the Very Large Telescope array -- a collection of four telescopes built by the European Southern Observatory in Chile -- have to do with astounding things the high-powered lenses have discovered. On Wednesday, the VLT made news for something it failed to spot -- namely, a brown dwarf star that was believed to have been orbiting a binary star system known as V471 Tauri, in the Taurus constellation.

One of the two closely orbiting stars that make up V471 Tauri is a white dwarf and the other is a normal star like our sun, according to a report about the star system on NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory's website. The binary system is located about 163 light-years from Earth and the distance between the two stars is one-thirtieth the distance between Mercury and the sun, which means they make a full revolution around each other every 12 hours.

When either star passes in front of each other, astronomers can read the changing light signals from the system. A team of led by Adam Hardy of Chile's Universidad Valparaiso measured the changes in brightness down to a very accurate 2 seconds by using the Ultracam system on ESO's New Technology Telescope. The Ultracam is a superfast camera attached to the VLT that can take up to 500 pictures per second in three different colors simultaneously.

The researchers discovered that the eclipses between the two stars didn't happen at a regular interval like they anticipated. To explain the anomaly, astronomers have theorized that there must be a brown dwarf orbiting the system and warping the orbit of the binary stars with its gravitational influence. Brown dwarfs, which are sometimes described as "failed stars," form when a cloud of gas and dust begins to congeal around a central core as in star formation. But in the case of the dwarfs, the material at the core never gets packed in tightly enough to start nuclear fusion and lead to a proper star. So these brown stars float through the galaxy -- not quite stars, not quite planets.


More:
http://www.cnet.com/news/very-large-telescope-fails-to-find-star-systems-little-brown-dwarf/

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Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
1. Pedantic quibble, the VLT objectives are mirrors rather than lenses
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 06:08 PM
Feb 2015

Makes me wonder what else about the piece the writer got wrong.

longship

(40,416 posts)
2. Yup! Lenses sag. Plus there's the chromatic aberration problem with passing light through glass.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 06:52 PM
Feb 2015

(Ignoring passing gas through ass, which is an aberration by itself.)

For those who do not know: All big telescopes these days are Newtonian (or other design) reflectors, with curved mirrors, not lenses.

And there are some really big ones in store in the near future.

Behold, the E-ELT, the European Extremely Large Telescope, currently under construction in Chile.


With a 39 meter aperture (that's just a bit under 130 feet for those in the USA, or the scientifically illiterate, but I repeat myself). It will dwarf every telescope that is currently operational.

And yup. It is being built by Europe, not the USA. Just like Europe has the LHC while the USA payed 2 billion dollars to bury the tunnels they spent two billion dollars digging for the Superconducting Supercollider in Texas.

We sent people to the moon. Now we cannot even get them into suborbital, let alone orbital missions. The moon? Hah! Don't even think about a moon base. We'd rather invade Fallujah.

The sun has set on science in the USA, a country which in my lifetime has long since switched to valuing ignorance, fame, and wealth above any knowledge.

It makes me sick even to think of it.


longship

(40,416 posts)
4. Wow! Four meters for a SOLAR telescope?
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 07:10 PM
Feb 2015

That is some serious shit. It maybe could give the orbital solar observers some competition. Except that it cannot view Sol 24/7. But it can be repaired if it breaks down.

Just don't get in the way of the light path, my friend.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
6. Yeah, that was my thought too...
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 07:54 PM
Feb 2015

The solar scope is about taking high speed/high resolution images of the Sun's surface in a wide band of wavelengths from IR to UV. There are a lot of questions about fast changing magnetic fields on the solar surface and observing their effects in real time is a primary mission for this reflector.

I have a 60mm f15 refractor set up as a dedicated solar viewer "Sun Gun" using eyepiece projection, I think they are using the large aperture more for angular resolution than needing that much light for the sensors. Probably some partially reflective surfaces there somewhere, amateurs sometimes make solar scopes with a largish Newtonian and don't aluminize the primary, it keeps the heat out of the system and allows a lot less filtering for eyepiece use.

longship

(40,416 posts)
7. Well, if I wanted to view the sun, I would get a dedicated solar refractor.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 08:10 PM
Feb 2015

With an appropriate active filter. Small, but high tech. A 90mm would be great, 70mm still fine. Why waste a large aperture reflector on something so bright?

You want to do solar research? There are dedicated solar scopes already in existence.

You want to take awesome pictures? Yup! A small personal solar scope will do just fine.

The astronomy magazines are full of such pictures. And yup! The effort and expense is worth it.

I used to have a Williams Optics/TEC 115mm triplet refractor mounted on a Losmandy G11. I never got the camera equipment together to do what I wanted. I had to sell it to heat my house when unemployment became a semi-permanent affair here in rural Michigan. I still have a very nice 254mm Dobsonian reflector with digital setting circles and a custom mirror and ash base and a ton of great eyepieces. I do not get out with it very often, but when I do, it is fucking awesome.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
9. I'm more into taking pictures these days
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 08:32 PM
Feb 2015

I can image stuff I can't begin to see from here because of light pollution.

Like comet Lovejoy..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/103639073

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
5. The US will launch the James Webb Space Telescope around 2018
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 07:29 PM
Feb 2015


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Webb_Space_Telescope

The James Webb Space Telescope (JWST), previously known as Next Generation Space Telescope (NGST), is a planned space observatory scheduled to launch in October 2018. The JWST will offer unprecedented resolution and sensitivity from long-wavelength visible to the mid-infrared, and is a successor instrument to the Hubble Space Telescope and the Spitzer Space Telescope. The telescope features a segmented 6.5-meter (21 ft) diameter primary mirror and will be located near the Earth–Sun L2 point. A large sunshield will keep its mirror and four science instruments below 50 K (?220 °C; ?370 °F).

JWST's capabilities will enable a broad range of investigations across the fields of astronomy and cosmology. One particular goal involves observing some of the most distant objects in the Universe, beyond the reach of current ground and space based instruments. This includes the very first stars, the epoch of reionization, and the formation of the first galaxies. Another goal is understanding the formation of stars and planets. This will include imaging molecular clouds and star-forming clusters, studying the debris disks around stars, direct imaging of planets, and spectroscopic examination of planetary transits.

A moon base would be an extremely expensive waste of money and it would be based on science fiction fantasies. Unmanned space missions are far cheaper and can also produce great science. I'm all for increasing the budget for good science.

longship

(40,416 posts)
8. My fingers are crossed on that mission.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 08:29 PM
Feb 2015

JWST is a huge project, but a risky one. If it gets to the Lagrange point and gets into service that will be quite an accomplishment.

As far as human occupied missions go, I am for them. But then again, I grew up in the 1950's so seeing it all happen for the first time sticks firmly into my brain. I cannot let that go. Nor will I.

I am unequivocally for manned space exploration. If we had not abandoned it we possibly could have already built a moon base. Instead, we fought wars and built an unsafe low earth orbit system. I know that this may be hyperbole, but I cannot let go thoughts on what might have been. I know, it is romance. But sometimes it takes dreams to excel.

Like Apollo. There was nothing like it in human history. Nothing ever like it. It is what inspires people to go further. I feel we have forgotten that. That is sad.

So I respectfully disagree with you on that issue.

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