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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 09:50 PM Nov 2015

There’s an awful cost to getting a PhD that no one talks about

by Jennifer Walker

One night during the third year of my PhD program, I sat on my bed with a packet of tranquilizers and a bottle of vodka. I popped a few pills in my mouth and swigged out of the bottle, feeling them burn down my throat. Moments later, I realized I was making a terrible mistake. I stopped, trembling as I realized what I’d nearly done.

I called a friend and met her in a bar exactly halfway between my house and hers. That night changed things for both of us. She met the love of her life—the bartender, who she later married. And I decided I wanted to live. The morning after, I found a therapist and considered quitting my PhD.

It’s common knowledge that getting a PhD is hard. It’s meant to be. Some even say that if you’re not up all night working or skipping meals, you’re doing it wrong. But while PhD students are not so naive as to enter the program expecting an easy ride, there is a cost to the endeavor that no one talks about: a psychological one.

The days I spent pursuing my PhD in physics were some of my darkest. It wasn’t the intellectual challenges or the workload that brought me down; it was my deteriorating mental health. I felt unsupported, isolated and adrift in uncertainty. Anxiety attacks became a part of my daily life. I drank and cut myself. I sometimes thought I wanted to die.

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There’s an awful cost to getting a PhD that no one talks about (Original Post) n2doc Nov 2015 OP
K&R darkangel218 Nov 2015 #1
K&R..... daleanime Nov 2015 #2
I possess a Bachelor's Degree, a Master's Degree, a Professional Degree, and numerous ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #3
Yep. Duppers Nov 2015 #4
It's tough sharp_stick Nov 2015 #5
Having been on both sides (student and mentor) n2doc Nov 2015 #6
I picked the school I liked, the advisor I liked, and a subject I liked Johonny Nov 2015 #9
I know some who had similar problems, I didn't HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #7
I have had several friends go through PhD studies... Javaman Nov 2015 #8
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
3. I possess a Bachelor's Degree, a Master's Degree, a Professional Degree, and numerous ...
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 10:03 PM
Nov 2015

national "expert" certifications; and, am currently batting around the idea of pursuing a PhD. I know the subject/Topic I wish to study/research, and know that, even, beginning the research, will position me to make a lot of money ...

But this article gives me pause.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
5. It's tough
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 10:14 PM
Nov 2015

I knew it would be going in but it was a lot harder than I expected.

I didn't go this far down the rabbit hole nor did most of the people I know. There were several who didn't finish and just took off, they went on a different path.

I was lucky in that my supervisor and lab-mates were very supportive of me and my outside life. We weren't part of the stay in the lab 20 hours a day crew. Overall we published at least as much as those in the more competitive labs and we had a much lower drop out rate. We also had a better post-doc and post grad school employment rate because, I'm sure, we had a good familial lab environment.

You have to be very careful when choosing a PhD program. Make sure the lab and department fit your lifestyle, make sure when you interview that you meet more people you like than assholes.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
6. Having been on both sides (student and mentor)
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 10:19 PM
Nov 2015

The number one thing going in is to get a sense of who you will be working with. Advisors come in all flavors, and some of the most brilliant ones are also the biggest egotistical assholes. Students make the mistake all the time in going for the CV, not the actual person.

It is a hell of a lot easier to succeed with a mentor who wants you to succeed and is flexible and creative. As opposed to one who is just using you for labor so they can move on to the next grant application.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
9. I picked the school I liked, the advisor I liked, and a subject I liked
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 12:08 PM
Nov 2015

I really don't remember graduate school being that stressful other than the huge lack of money.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
7. I know some who had similar problems, I didn't
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 10:24 PM
Nov 2015

I loved it, it was a long climb up a not too steep climb up a mountain with tremendous views.

The anxiety was about passing the prelim and getting a tenure track position afterwards.




Javaman

(62,530 posts)
8. I have had several friends go through PhD studies...
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 10:39 AM
Nov 2015

one was my roommate for many years.

and the things I had witnessed dissuaded me from ever even thinking of trying.

divorces, separations, yes attempted suicides(as above) and a whole list of things that basically destroyed their personal lives and mental state.

those who made it through, were shells of the people I once knew.

Some people do very well and are able to keep it together and get their PhD. those folks are super human and are not of this earth.

Most do not. And sadly, they are then saddled with massive debt.

Just read the comic strip, "Piled High and Deeper". It's really not all that far off the mark.

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