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marmar

(77,072 posts)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:04 PM Jan 2016

Hillary Clinton Laughs When Asked if She Will Release Transcripts of Her Goldman Sachs Speeches


(The Intercept) After Hillary Clinton spoke at a town hall in Manchester, New Hampshire, on Friday, I asked her if she would release the transcripts of her paid speeches to Goldman Sachs. She laughed and turned away.

Clinton has recently been on the defensive about the speaking fees she and her husband have collected. Those fees total over $125 million since 2001.

Her rival Democratic presidential candidate, Bernie Sanders, has raised concerns in particular over the $675,000 she made from Goldman Sachs, an investment bank that has regularly used its influence with government officials to win favorable policies.

Watch the video:

https://vimeo.com/152786370

During one of her paid speeches to Goldman Sachs, Clinton reportedly reassured the crowd and told them that banker-bashing was unproductive and foolish, according to a Politico report based on accounts offered by several attendees. ............(more)

https://theintercept.com/2016/01/23/clinton-goldman-sachs-laugh/




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Hillary Clinton Laughs When Asked if She Will Release Transcripts of Her Goldman Sachs Speeches (Original Post) marmar Jan 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #1
What's So Funny Hillary?..... global1 Jan 2016 #2
I wouldn't trust any transcript bvf Jan 2016 #24
Hillaryous virtualobserver Jan 2016 #27
It's funny that little people expect her to admit what she says about them in private. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #30
"It's funny that little people expect...", It's funny that she expects anything else. Bubzer Jan 2016 #48
This was supposed to be her turn. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #50
I'm sure she'll scoff the little people into realizing the error or their ways. Bubzer Jan 2016 #54
I'm sure. After she got permission from Wall Street and all. That wasn't easy, ya know. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #55
Particularly after her stern-worded lecture to basically cut-it-out. Bubzer Jan 2016 #64
"Permission." Enlightening word, for me. Thanks. senz Jan 2016 #78
Bernie doesn't have permission. senz Jan 2016 #87
Bernie knows OUR government is Wall Street's master, not it's servant. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #88
But judging from the behavior of nearly all our "elected representatives" senz Jan 2016 #89
Elizabeth Warren said Hillary thinks of Wall Street as her constituents..... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #90
I think you mean Hillary Clinton. senz Jan 2016 #92
Point taken. Edited. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #111
She prefers the word peasants. JRLeft Jan 2016 #77
what like 2 years of Mittens tax forms PatrynXX Jan 2016 #60
The public Hillary is known for flip-flopping and "evolving" on important issues. pa28 Jan 2016 #72
Didn't she get speaking money from health insurance companies too Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #3
the condescending elitism is one of several reasons restorefreedom Jan 2016 #4
As an aspiring poet, I like that imagery. When pondering it for five minutes, it develops nicely. TheBlackAdder Jan 2016 #84
very cool. interestingly, sara gilbert's son is named levi. restorefreedom Jan 2016 #86
As long as it is blue deathrind Jan 2016 #102
lol. green does not sound as good. nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #108
Hillary's laugh highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #5
It's kind of a "Screw You. Sbhut UP" laugh filled with passive aggression Armstead Jan 2016 #14
Questions from average citizens don't deserve an answer....they are laughable virtualobserver Jan 2016 #36
The laugh says "Suckers" FreakinDJ Jan 2016 #79
it's "a how dare you ask that! apologize, you brazen cur!" laugh MisterP Jan 2016 #91
Hey, it's all we peons and serfs deserve. hifiguy Jan 2016 #99
Best comment of that 10 hour clip.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #49
That is funny. highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #67
LOL! senz Jan 2016 #69
Release the Records? No, We Can't Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #6
More like azurnoir Jan 2016 #16
And a lot like Autumn Jan 2016 #74
yep nailed it azurnoir Jan 2016 #83
Blammo. hifiguy Jan 2016 #100
That seems reasonable. malthaussen Jan 2016 #7
And should we be able to know what she told them? ejbr Jan 2016 #22
Har Har Har. nc4bo Jan 2016 #8
Watch her eyes right before the fake laugh Ichingcarpenter Jan 2016 #9
She needs to be asked to release the text of those speeches at every event she does.... peacebird Jan 2016 #10
You Can't Always Get What You Want The Rolling Stones riversedge Jan 2016 #29
Sympathy For the Devil. nt OnyxCollie Jan 2016 #39
Zing!!! cui bono Jan 2016 #105
But you forget the next line. zeemike Jan 2016 #53
I only wanted the title so I did not forget riversedge Jan 2016 #81
I can see why you support Hillary now. cui bono Jan 2016 #107
If she doesn't release them, it means she doesn't want the average schmuck to know TwilightGardener Jan 2016 #11
Of course she doesn't want us to know tk2kewl Jan 2016 #15
People who say things say once you learn to fake sincerity you have a career in politics Fumesucker Jan 2016 #12
Her "career" is a construct. It's entirely artificial. senz Jan 2016 #41
A completely Potemkin-village career. hifiguy Jan 2016 #101
Had to look it up, hifiguy. senz Jan 2016 #113
Scary goon she has there with her tk2kewl Jan 2016 #13
meh probably Secret Service as a former FLOTUS they go everywhere with her azurnoir Jan 2016 #17
Nasty glare right into the camera after the guy asked for the speech transcripts tk2kewl Jan 2016 #25
yep apparently he felt the questioner was somehow threatening to his charge azurnoir Jan 2016 #28
I caught that too, actually it was hard to miss. If looks could kill. n/t 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #40
I noticed it too. senz Jan 2016 #42
It feels as if she's laughing at US. Chef Eric Jan 2016 #18
I agree. She's laughing right in our faces for having to nerve to want to know what stillwaiting Jan 2016 #31
I'm sure Stryder Jan 2016 #43
Only because she is. hifiguy Jan 2016 #103
Yuck! What a sense of entitlement she has. jalan48 Jan 2016 #19
Brilliant question and a campaign ad thereismore Jan 2016 #20
I hope someone does. People need to see beneath the surface. senz Jan 2016 #45
"What You Do Speaks So Loudly I Cannot Hear What You Say" Duval Jan 2016 #62
Perfect, Duval. senz Jan 2016 #70
She does say something after the laugh, but I couldn't make out what it was. n/t Jefferson23 Jan 2016 #21
this... alterfurz Jan 2016 #115
Hillary received over $3 million over past 2 years Geronimoe Jan 2016 #23
Well that right there explains why we "can't have" single payer. senz Jan 2016 #112
Oh that Hillary, she's such a 1%er, isnt she? Who are we to demand she tell us who she works for... whereisjustice Jan 2016 #26
Yes, banker-bashing is foolish! Helen Borg Jan 2016 #32
The Intercept Iwillnevergiveup Jan 2016 #33
Lee Fang is excellent. senz Jan 2016 #46
I did, also. Duval Jan 2016 #66
thanks, marmar. nt antigop Jan 2016 #34
That is exactly the same laugh as her, "We came, we saw, he died" laugh... Agony Jan 2016 #35
Condescending and rude. n/t Avalux Jan 2016 #37
There has to be a copy somewhere or a video in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #38
If she thinks releasing them would hurt her, anyone holding copies has leverage Babel_17 Jan 2016 #93
Wowie Zowie!! that didn't take long. Way to go Intercept!!! 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #44
DU seems to touch the pulse of political discourse in this country senz Jan 2016 #73
Someone should Romney dinner her ypsfonos Jan 2016 #47
Why should she? George II Jan 2016 #51
She should if she wants the trust of the people and their votes. If she does not want votes, she Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #119
Thank you so much for linking to The Intercept. senz Jan 2016 #52
She's ignoring him Depaysement Jan 2016 #56
Boy, she really didn't want to answer that one! CanonRay Jan 2016 #57
Candidate No - Maintains A Perfect Record Of - No Responses cantbeserious Jan 2016 #58
The Occupy Wall Street crowd is not laughing Dems to Win Jan 2016 #59
She laughs becuase she has followers who are loyal above all concerns LittleBlue Jan 2016 #61
Arrogance, thy name is Hillary Clinton. 99Forever Jan 2016 #63
Wow--she is something else--so phony. panader0 Jan 2016 #65
Imagine that. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #68
She's so fake. azmom Jan 2016 #71
The investors in her campaign expect their relationship to be kept private. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #75
Her evil cackle drives me up a wall. Odin2005 Jan 2016 #76
Good-natured response! Mike Nelson Jan 2016 #80
Bernie Supporters don't have to "make Hillary look bad." 99Forever Jan 2016 #85
Good-natured response 2 (Electric Boogaloo) Babel_17 Jan 2016 #94
Imagine that, everyone wants to know what she told Goldman Sachs! JackRiddler Jan 2016 #96
As am I. Nt NCTraveler Jan 2016 #82
Oops I posted the same thing. Sorry. JackRiddler Jan 2016 #95
Not a snowball's chance in Goldman Sachs. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #97
Ha, fucking ha. hifiguy Jan 2016 #98
They always laugh cui bono Jan 2016 #104
A laugh was an appropriate response to that question Gothmog Jan 2016 #106
Indeed, how dare the serfs question what their queen-in-waiting says to the lords of the realm? Fumesucker Jan 2016 #109
How so? cui bono Jan 2016 #110
She laughs a lot. polly7 Jan 2016 #114
you're funny, polly7... alterfurz Jan 2016 #116
I like that! nt. polly7 Jan 2016 #117
She should be asked that question until she drops the smirk and releases the speeches. Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #118

Response to marmar (Original post)

global1

(25,241 posts)
2. What's So Funny Hillary?.....
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jan 2016

We need to know if you are telling us one thing and telling the Bankster's something else. If you refuse to release those transcripts - we can only assume that your are hiding something. And that's not funny.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
48. "It's funny that little people expect...", It's funny that she expects anything else.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 02:19 PM
Jan 2016

Especially since those little people hold her political future in the palm of our hands.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
78. "Permission." Enlightening word, for me. Thanks.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 04:22 PM
Jan 2016

This is why we need to share our thoughts, perceptions, etc., out here.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
87. Bernie doesn't have permission.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 04:49 PM
Jan 2016

That's it. Hillary does, Biden does. I wonder if O'Malley does? Warren probably doesn't, but she seems to have inroads that Bernie never pursued.

I wonder if Bernie has thought of it in these terms? He probably has, but with his amazing courage and inner certitude simply keeps pushing onward. There is something heroic about him for doing this when so many others are afraid to.

This may be the key to breaking it open: find ways to tell the people what's going on, how tptb operate. Bernie's been doing it in straightforward, simplistic terms by simply giving the public statistics about income disparity, etc. and telling them who some of the power holders are and how we can dismantle them in an orderly way, using our own government.

Is there enough time to tell the majority of the people before the elections? There must be a way.

Sorry for all the musing; the concept of getting "permission" from the banks opened it for me.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
89. But judging from the behavior of nearly all our "elected representatives"
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 06:25 PM
Jan 2016

Bernie is in a distinct minority with this knowledge.

I loved it when he said in one the debates that "Government doesn't regulate Wall Street, Wall Street regulates government." I hope that was an eye-opener for all the people listening out there. Hmm, wonder if that could be one of the reasons DWS wanted to limit his exposure?

What boggles my mind is the sheer number of D. C. power players who are totally bought. Hillary is just one of them -- although for a Democrat, she seems more bought than most.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
90. Elizabeth Warren said Hillary thinks of Wall Street as her constituents.....
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 06:36 PM
Jan 2016

Last edited Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:50 PM - Edit history (1)

I've heard her say, "I represented Wall Street".

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
92. I think you mean Hillary Clinton.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:16 PM
Jan 2016

I've heard her say that. Now if only the rest of America could know it before the primary.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
72. The public Hillary is known for flip-flopping and "evolving" on important issues.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:43 PM
Jan 2016

I get the feeling the Hillary of $2700 a place fundraisers and private speeches to banks is much more consistent. That's most likely the real Hillary and she doesn't want us to see it or hear it.

I somehow doubt she talks about "toppling the 1%" in THESE speeches.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
4. the condescending elitism is one of several reasons
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:16 PM
Jan 2016

why her campaign is falling faster than blue ice out of an airplane lavatory





TheBlackAdder

(28,183 posts)
84. As an aspiring poet, I like that imagery. When pondering it for five minutes, it develops nicely.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 04:45 PM
Jan 2016

.


There are so many aspects to the term 'blue ice,' and it's descent from height, that flourishes in thought.


.

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
102. As long as it is blue
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:03 PM
Jan 2016

Last edited Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:29 PM - Edit history (1)

It is ok. If it is a greenish almost Terquoise type color it is not....

Has that job for a while...it is a pretty blue juice/ice.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
5. Hillary's laugh
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:17 PM
Jan 2016

I've been tempted to post several times the 10 hour version of Hillary's laugh you can find on the Web.

However, I just can't do it. Seems like a cheap shot, and goodness knows, I'm in favor of laughter.

I just wish it didn't seem so forced and inauthentic much of the time. I wish she didn't do it in the middle of being asked about things that seem very unfunny like her Goldman Sachs speeches or attacking Iran. There is a discomfort there, for viewer and perhaps for her as well, that's really kind of eery.

As much as I know we need a Democrat in the White House, I really hope I don't have to hear this for eight years.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
14. It's kind of a "Screw You. Sbhut UP" laugh filled with passive aggression
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:56 PM
Jan 2016

At least Bernie would give an honest grumpy reply.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
36. Questions from average citizens don't deserve an answer....they are laughable
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 02:00 PM
Jan 2016

is this video going viral?

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
99. Hey, it's all we peons and serfs deserve.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:54 PM
Jan 2016

Just ask her. "Now shut up and eat your shit sandwich."

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
49. Best comment of that 10 hour clip....
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 02:21 PM
Jan 2016
CementCake 3 weeks ago
Report this for nudity so the YouTube employees have to watch 10 hours of Hillary laughing trying to find it

malthaussen

(17,186 posts)
7. That seems reasonable.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:24 PM
Jan 2016

Goldman paid what, a quarter of a million per speech? Why should she give them for free? Y'all just don't have the right mentality.

-- Mal

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
22. And should we be able to know what she told them?
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 01:43 PM
Jan 2016

Or do we need to cough up that kind of money to find out?

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
8. Har Har Har.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:24 PM
Jan 2016

Lots of sweet nothings (or a whole lot of somethings) whispered in ears, snuggies, warm milk and sweet promises for all, bedtime stories of how Mama Bear's gonna protect you all from those filthy, crumbsnatching cash cows and turnips.

Cut it out!




zeemike

(18,998 posts)
53. But you forget the next line.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 02:29 PM
Jan 2016

But if you try sometime you find
You get what you need.

But we are told you should not even try...it's just too hard.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
11. If she doesn't release them, it means she doesn't want the average schmuck to know
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:36 PM
Jan 2016

what she told them. End of story. Just as with her email server, she wants to operate below the radar, away from scrutiny.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
15. Of course she doesn't want us to know
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:57 PM
Jan 2016

I so hope there's audio or video out there somewhere and a good citizen with a good conscience that can get it to the public

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
12. People who say things say once you learn to fake sincerity you have a career in politics
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:44 PM
Jan 2016

Bill seems pretty obvious but still searching for an explanation for Hillary's career.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
41. Her "career" is a construct. It's entirely artificial.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 02:10 PM
Jan 2016

Carpetbagged Senate seat based on First Lady fame, followed by an unsuccessful run for president, followed by an undistinguished cabinet appointment, followed by another run for president. None of it derived from natural ability or proven accomplishment; the two jobs were essentially arranged for her.

She never seemed particularly absorbed or gratified by the positions she held. Each was merely a necessary stepping stone on the way to an ultimate goal.

The contrast with Bernie could not be more stark.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
113. Had to look it up, hifiguy.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:22 PM
Jan 2016

The only association I had with the word "Potemkin" was a old classic film, The Battleship Potemkin. This is why the internet is educational! Thanks.

Chef Eric

(1,024 posts)
18. It feels as if she's laughing at US.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 01:39 PM
Jan 2016

Or at least she's laughing at those of us who are wondering what she said that was worth so much money.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
31. I agree. She's laughing right in our faces for having to nerve to want to know what
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 01:58 PM
Jan 2016

she said in her speeches.

Stryder

(450 posts)
43. I'm sure
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 02:13 PM
Jan 2016

she was just giving them a couple hundred thousand dollars
worth of advice on how to do their jobs.
It must have been some awesome insight. These folks don't spend
a nickle that doesn't return a dollar.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
45. I hope someone does. People need to see beneath the surface.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 02:14 PM
Jan 2016

Not to "hurt" her, but to inform voters, because the presidency should not be granted lightly.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
62. "What You Do Speaks So Loudly I Cannot Hear What You Say"
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 02:54 PM
Jan 2016

Ralph Waldo Emerson I thought that was an apt quote for her, senz.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
23. Hillary received over $3 million over past 2 years
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 01:44 PM
Jan 2016

in speaker fees from the for-profit health insurance providers.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
26. Oh that Hillary, she's such a 1%er, isnt she? Who are we to demand she tell us who she works for...
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 01:49 PM
Jan 2016

every passing day she reminds me more and more of the Kochs. Separated at birth?

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
33. The Intercept
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 01:58 PM
Jan 2016

is one amazing website, and I just signed up to subscribe. Lee Fang is a real journalist!

K&R

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
46. Lee Fang is excellent.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 02:18 PM
Jan 2016

I've heard him on the radio and read a few articles by him -- maybe in The Nation and somewhere else online. He is a real investigative journalist. From what I've seen, entirely trustworthy.

Agony

(2,605 posts)
35. That is exactly the same laugh as her, "We came, we saw, he died" laugh...
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 01:59 PM
Jan 2016

Enough is enough of the unaccountable insider crap.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
38. There has to be a copy somewhere or a video
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 02:06 PM
Jan 2016

that some good Samaritan will release.

Since she refuses to release them, you know they're bad for her campaign.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
93. If she thinks releasing them would hurt her, anyone holding copies has leverage
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:17 PM
Jan 2016

Or is that just a given? "You came here, talked to us in secret in exchange for lots of cash, better not piss us off".

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
44. Wowie Zowie!! that didn't take long. Way to go Intercept!!!
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 02:14 PM
Jan 2016

Last edited Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:44 PM - Edit history (1)

DU just floated this question into the blogisphere 2 days ago, from the greatest page. coincidence?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511041913

Several other on DU have been raising this question as well on the interwebs. Who says "no one reads DU"

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
73. DU seems to touch the pulse of political discourse in this country
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 04:12 PM
Jan 2016

and increasingly, the touching appears to go in both directions.

I could not ask for anything better.

(But too bad there is so much static, animosity, internal warfare.)

 

ypsfonos

(144 posts)
47. Someone should Romney dinner her
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 02:19 PM
Jan 2016

Everybody remember the 47%?

At the speeches there must be servants around!
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
119. She should if she wants the trust of the people and their votes. If she does not want votes, she
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 01:20 PM
Jan 2016

can keep her secrets. If she wants votes, she needs to do that which is asked of her by the voters.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
52. Thank you so much for linking to The Intercept.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 02:26 PM
Jan 2016

It looks excellent, and it carries reports from the great investigative journalist, Lee Fang,.

Depaysement

(1,835 posts)
56. She's ignoring him
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 02:40 PM
Jan 2016

She laughs because it seems from the distant camera shots like she's talking and smiling. It's good technique.


 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
59. The Occupy Wall Street crowd is not laughing
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 02:50 PM
Jan 2016

She can't get the votes of OWS and their supporters, whether it be in the primary or November.

Making a speech to Goldman Sachs for $250,000 in 2013 was a clear middle finger to OWS from Hillary. Stupid, arrogant, obnoxious move for someone planning to run for president as a Democrat.

I'm irritated that the Democratic Establishment has lined up behind a clear loser. If Democrats want to have any chance of winning, we must nominate Bernie.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
61. She laughs becuase she has followers who are loyal above all concerns
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 02:54 PM
Jan 2016

They demand nothing from her other than she be Hillary Clinton. She can oppose universal healthcare, free education for all, anything, and she'll have a baseline of 48% support.

Her smile is knowing she can do anything she wants and it won't hurt her.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
63. Arrogance, thy name is Hillary Clinton.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 02:56 PM
Jan 2016

Funny thing is, that's the same reaction I give when someone asks me if I'll vote for Hillary Goldman Sachs Clinton.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
75. The investors in her campaign expect their relationship to be kept private.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 04:18 PM
Jan 2016

Not to mention that they also expect a healthy return on their investment.

Mike Nelson

(9,951 posts)
80. Good-natured response!
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 04:26 PM
Jan 2016

...Republicans (and, now, Bernie supporters) want to investigate and examine every lead, in an endless effort to make her look bad.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
85. Bernie Supporters don't have to "make Hillary look bad."
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 04:48 PM
Jan 2016

She does a fine job of that, all by herself.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
109. Indeed, how dare the serfs question what their queen-in-waiting says to the lords of the realm?
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:18 PM
Jan 2016

This whole election is nothing but an empty and meaningless formality before the coronation.

We are all neocons now.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
114. She laughs a lot.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 11:45 AM
Jan 2016

"We came, we saw, he died .... lol". Those who've got nothing to worry about seem to enjoy life and don't find much troubling about their actions at all, even if they really bother others. There's a name for that, isn't there?

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