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Why is Rachel Maddow bringing up the war (Original Post) bigdarryl Sep 2012 OP
War? What war? Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2012 #1
Don't know Iwasthere Sep 2012 #2
That's kind of a sickening statement. limpyhobbler Sep 2012 #3
She's basically saying that everyone has had it. DollarBillHines Sep 2012 #4
She's not PART of the Obama campaign. Curtland1015 Sep 2012 #5
True the only thing I'm saying is bigdarryl Sep 2012 #8
The President has a strategy to get out bigdarryl Sep 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author truebluegreen Sep 2012 #16
The repubs are bringing up Libya by saying Hillary lied and the administration is messing up Lint Head Sep 2012 #7
She doesn't like the hypocricy about the way soldiers are treated lunatica Sep 2012 #9
+1 shireen Sep 2012 #24
It's topical due to Netanyahu's address to the UN today. NYC_SKP Sep 2012 #10
She's also taking the Republican Congress members to task for holding up bills lunatica Sep 2012 #12
Ok now she's getting to the issue bigdarryl Sep 2012 #11
She is calling out Rmoney. dogman Sep 2012 #13
yes, we should NEVER talk about THE WAR Skittles Sep 2012 #14
To make the point that Romney has ignored it The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2012 #15
It was ultimately about Romney Jennicut Sep 2012 #17
Because she is a secret Republican, obviously. Chef Eric Sep 2012 #18
Don't do that. NCLefty Sep 2012 #19
I agree with you lunatica Sep 2012 #30
You really think Republicans will run to Obama's left on the war? IfPalinisAnswerWatsQ Sep 2012 #20
It was a terrible segment devoid of logic. TheDonkey Sep 2012 #21
It's pretty evident you turned her off before she finished. lunatica Sep 2012 #29
Nobody is perfect. bemildred Sep 2012 #22
Her first segment Cosmocat Sep 2012 #23
Romney has no answer--that was part of her point Maeve Sep 2012 #25
C'mon...Romney Sekhmets Daughter Sep 2012 #26
When I was in Vietnam, it was nice to think that upaloopa Sep 2012 #27
She is also pointing out that there should still be a national discussion. Kalidurga Sep 2012 #28
 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
8. True the only thing I'm saying is
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:13 PM
Sep 2012

With forty days left before the election why is she bringing this up now.

Response to bigdarryl (Reply #6)

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
7. The repubs are bringing up Libya by saying Hillary lied and the administration is messing up
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:13 PM
Sep 2012

foreign policy. I think she is trying to get a jump on them.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
9. She doesn't like the hypocricy about the way soldiers are treated
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:14 PM
Sep 2012

and the total hype around the wars as if they're some great thing while mistreating veterans. She also talks about Romney never even bothering to mention the troops.

You should take the time to listen to what she says because she always has a point, and it's usually an excellent point.

She's also talking about Congress, specifically the Republicans holding up bills or blocking them that help veterans. She seems pretty pissed about it.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
10. It's topical due to Netanyahu's address to the UN today.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:15 PM
Sep 2012

But she's also managing to make Mitt look bad.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
12. She's also taking the Republican Congress members to task for holding up bills
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:18 PM
Sep 2012

that would benefit veterans.

I doubt she's talking about this because Netanyahu talked at the UN. She's not making any connections to it.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
11. Ok now she's getting to the issue
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:16 PM
Sep 2012

She's making the point that the rethugs are blocking issues in Congress on Veterans

dogman

(6,073 posts)
13. She is calling out Rmoney.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:19 PM
Sep 2012

Like every other issue, he has no policy beyond the idea things will get better with his magic touch.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
15. To make the point that Romney has ignored it
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:21 PM
Sep 2012

while Obama has not, and that the Republicans have been blocking relief for veterans in Congress and Romney could speak out against this, and he hasn't.

You would have learned this if you had actually listened to her.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
17. It was ultimately about Romney
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:58 PM
Sep 2012

but Rachel can criticize the President if she wants to. The woman is brilliant and calls attention to issues that need attention. I am sure she is more to the left then President Obama and doesn't agree with him 100% on everything. That is fine with me. I support Obama totally but no President is perfect.

Chef Eric

(1,024 posts)
18. Because she is a secret Republican, obviously.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:28 PM
Sep 2012

Throughout her late teens and twenties, Maddow carefully and methodically came up with a plan to build a successful career as a "liberal commentator," all the while knowing, of course, that such a career would someday afford her a perfect opportunity to turn the tables, and make SOME Democratic President, ANY Democratic President, look bad, bad, bad. Quite a devious plan, but brilliant nonetheless. And now that she has finally revealed her true colors, I think we can all expect much more of the same.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
19. Don't do that.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:56 PM
Sep 2012

It's the *other* side that is so robotic that they all have to fall in line and never criticize or they are booted from the party.

But THAT'S NOT NORMAL HUMAN BEHAVIOR.

No one is perfect, and we should be able to discuss things we disagree about even if we mostly agree.

Rachel is not going to cost this president anything. I feel better knowing she's not a complete puppet and has the backbone to bring up things she feels her side aren't addressing satisfactorily from time to time. She's still going to vote for him and continue to shine the light on all the crap the other side does every night. As she well should

 
20. You really think Republicans will run to Obama's left on the war?
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:25 AM
Sep 2012

Come on now. There's no risk of that. If Romney does it then he loses his war-hungry base.

TheDonkey

(8,911 posts)
21. It was a terrible segment devoid of logic.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 02:03 AM
Sep 2012

She was trying to frame the debate that Obama is vulnerable on war issues however he is not because Romney is to the extreme right on these same issues. It is not like Obama is running against Jill Stein. Maddow just wanted to make a statement but she shouldn't have tried to pose that idiotic question of why Romney is wrong for not talking about this issue. He knows that his ideas are far more unpopular.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
22. Nobody is perfect.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 09:42 AM
Sep 2012

Rachel kicks ass. It is so refreshing to hear coherent arguments presented in an orderly way on television. I had begun to think it was not possible, but she does it. But some segments are better than others, and sometimes she is clearly just talking about something she thinks is important and being ignored, and vets issues and defense are two of those.

Cosmocat

(14,565 posts)
23. Her first segment
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 10:19 AM
Sep 2012

she always takes the L O N G road to making her point.

I get where the OP is coming from, she did not clearly hammer it home on the back end.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
25. Romney has no answer--that was part of her point
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 02:57 PM
Sep 2012

And it is a major issue that should be discussed. I've had two family members and some family friends in Afghanistan, the likelihood of another going within the year--and the war doesn't seem to be "winding down" as it was supposed to be. Longest war in American history, time to end it. But Romney seems to not want to end it either...WTF?

And FWIW, I think part of the loosening up on the left side right now (Rude Pundit is also hitting Obama on war and surveillance issues) is that there is a feeling that "the campaign is over, let's talk governing".

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
27. When I was in Vietnam, it was nice to think that
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 03:02 PM
Sep 2012

the folks who sent us there still gave a shit that we were there.
Maybe we should not put this war behind us just yet.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
28. She is also pointing out that there should still be a national discussion.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 03:05 PM
Sep 2012

Romney is ignoring Afghanistan and the fact we are out of Iraq. Since, Romney is ignoring it so is most of MSM. Obama isn't going to just bring it up randomly. So, there you have it the conversation doesn't exist.

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