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Omaha Steve

(99,632 posts)
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:44 PM Feb 2016

AP: The Latest: Clinton, Sanders squabble over endorsements


http://bigstory.ap.org/article/834576da3fd14a7c92490eac6faf0202/latest-rubio-works-court-rand-paul-supporters

STRATHAM, N.H. (AP) — The Latest on the 2016 presidential campaign (all times local):

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7 p.m.

Hillary Clinton's campaign for president is criticizing rival Bernie Sanders for what it argues are misleading campaign advertisements.


The ads suggest the Vermont senator received the endorsement of two newspapers that have not backed his bid for the White House.

Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook tells The Associated Press that the Sanders campaign "very clearly" isn't living up to the standards set by Sanders to be a candidate who "always tells the truth."

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AP: The Latest: Clinton, Sanders squabble over endorsements (Original Post) Omaha Steve Feb 2016 OP
And here are the actual words from a newspaper that endorsed Hillary. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #1
And here are the words from a newspaper that DIDN'T endorse Bernie brooklynite Feb 2016 #15
What was deceptive about his ad, he cited their words if they didn't believe those words, they Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #18
Was there a criticism of Hillary in that article? I didn't see one... brooklynite Feb 2016 #16
There was a criticism of the Democratic Party in Iowa of which the leadership supports Hillary and Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #19
so, Robby Mook is lying about Bernie's ads.. Well, surprise. surprise, surprise! virtualobserver Feb 2016 #2
"Squabble." That's a funny way of putting the fact that Sanders is falsely claiming endorsements. DanTex Feb 2016 #3
Your statement is false, Bernie's campaign never claimed those papers were endorsing him, he just Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #5
Right, he simply implied it. After misappropriating those logos, his propaganda team learned DanTex Feb 2016 #6
He stated their words, are you calling those papers liars? What about the words of the Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #8
Like I said, they figured out how to mislead without technically lying. DanTex Feb 2016 #9
He cited their words, never said they endorsed him, that's not misleading, this is. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #10
I guess misleading is a foreign concept to you. Wait, no, you're highly practiced in it. DanTex Feb 2016 #11
I guess misleading is not a foreign concept to you, because you never answered either of my posts Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #12
An endorsement is not a complicated thing. Implying you have it when you don't, which is DanTex Feb 2016 #13
You still never answered either of my questions in the above posts which I made. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #14
You're still trying to pretend that implying that you have an endorsement isn't dishonest. DanTex Feb 2016 #17
... and not a single f#ck was given. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #4
Hillary whines a lot left-of-center2012 Feb 2016 #7

Uncle Joe

(58,362 posts)
1. And here are the actual words from a newspaper that endorsed Hillary.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:49 PM
Feb 2016


DesMoines Register Editorial: Something Smells in the Democratic Party (Caucus results)


http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/caucus/2016/02/03/editorial-something-smells-democratic-party/79777580/

Once again the world is laughing at Iowa. Late-night comedians and social media mavens are having a field day with jokes about missing caucusgoers and coin flips.

That’s fine. We can take ribbing over our quirky process. But what we can’t stomach is even the whiff of impropriety or error.

What happened Monday night at the Democratic caucuses was a debacle, period. Democracy, particularly at the local party level, can be slow, messy and obscure. But the refusal to undergo scrutiny or allow for an appeal reeks of autocracy.

The Iowa Democratic Party must act quickly to assure the accuracy of the caucus results, beyond a shadow of a doubt

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511137826



Thanks for the thread, Omaha Steve.

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
15. And here are the words from a newspaper that DIDN'T endorse Bernie
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:31 PM
Feb 2016

Roger Carroll @Telegraph_Rog
For the record, despite @BernieSanders deceptive ad to the contrary, @NashuaTelegraph has not endorsed any Dem prez candidate #nhpolitics

Uncle Joe

(58,362 posts)
18. What was deceptive about his ad, he cited their words if they didn't believe those words, they
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:34 PM
Feb 2016

shouldn't have printed them.

Uncle Joe

(58,362 posts)
19. There was a criticism of the Democratic Party in Iowa of which the leadership supports Hillary and
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:38 PM
Feb 2016

which has denied a recount to clear up all the discrepancies in their caucus results.

Uncle Joe

(58,362 posts)
5. Your statement is false, Bernie's campaign never claimed those papers were endorsing him, he just
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:53 PM
Feb 2016

cited their words, just I did on post #1 of the largest newspaper in Iowa which had endorsed Hillary.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
6. Right, he simply implied it. After misappropriating those logos, his propaganda team learned
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 08:55 PM
Feb 2016

a lesson: don't lie outright, just mislead.

Uncle Joe

(58,362 posts)
8. He stated their words, are you calling those papers liars? What about the words of the
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:04 PM
Feb 2016

Des Moines Register, do you agree with them?

Uncle Joe

(58,362 posts)
10. He cited their words, never said they endorsed him, that's not misleading, this is.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:11 PM
Feb 2016


I don't agree with them. They know I don't agree with them. So they flood into these caucuses and dominate them and really intimidate people who show up there to support me.

Here's what she told MoveOn during a public conference call.

You've been refusing to back down when any of us who are in political leadership are not living up the standards that we should set for ourselves. I think you have helped to change the face of American politics for the better - both online and in the corridors of power.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511142082

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
11. I guess misleading is a foreign concept to you. Wait, no, you're highly practiced in it.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:15 PM
Feb 2016

But recognizing when Bernie misleads is difficult. For example, implying that organizations endorsed Bernie when they didn't. To the point where said organizations have to publicly complain.

Uncle Joe

(58,362 posts)
12. I guess misleading is not a foreign concept to you, because you never answered either of my posts
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:20 PM
Feb 2016

up-thread the first in regards to a major newspaper which had endorsed Hillary and whose words you now wish to ignore and the second post a blatant example of true misleading by Hillary.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
13. An endorsement is not a complicated thing. Implying you have it when you don't, which is
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:22 PM
Feb 2016

what Bernie has been doing, is dishonest.

Uncle Joe

(58,362 posts)
14. You still never answered either of my questions in the above posts which I made.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:29 PM
Feb 2016

Furthermore Bernie never stated nor implied that he had their endorsement, he just cited their words describing him.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
17. You're still trying to pretend that implying that you have an endorsement isn't dishonest.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:33 PM
Feb 2016

He ran an add named "Endorsed" in which he quoted organizations that didn't actually endorse him. It was so flagrantly dishonest that one organization had to actually publicly complain. And before that, he sent mailers with logos that again falsely implied endorsements, and again the organizations had to publicly complain that he was using their logos without permission.

You're free to ignore the facts, but if you step outside the Bernie bubble, don't be surprised when other people actually pay attention to what's going on.

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