2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAP: The Latest: Clinton, Sanders squabble over endorsements
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/834576da3fd14a7c92490eac6faf0202/latest-rubio-works-court-rand-paul-supporters
STRATHAM, N.H. (AP) The Latest on the 2016 presidential campaign (all times local):
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7 p.m.
Hillary Clinton's campaign for president is criticizing rival Bernie Sanders for what it argues are misleading campaign advertisements.
The ads suggest the Vermont senator received the endorsement of two newspapers that have not backed his bid for the White House.
Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook tells The Associated Press that the Sanders campaign "very clearly" isn't living up to the standards set by Sanders to be a candidate who "always tells the truth."
MORE at link.
Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)DesMoines Register Editorial: Something Smells in the Democratic Party (Caucus results)
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/caucus/2016/02/03/editorial-something-smells-democratic-party/79777580/
Once again the world is laughing at Iowa. Late-night comedians and social media mavens are having a field day with jokes about missing caucusgoers and coin flips.
Thats fine. We can take ribbing over our quirky process. But what we cant stomach is even the whiff of impropriety or error.
What happened Monday night at the Democratic caucuses was a debacle, period. Democracy, particularly at the local party level, can be slow, messy and obscure. But the refusal to undergo scrutiny or allow for an appeal reeks of autocracy.
The Iowa Democratic Party must act quickly to assure the accuracy of the caucus results, beyond a shadow of a doubt
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511137826
Thanks for the thread, Omaha Steve.
brooklynite
(94,571 posts)Roger Carroll @Telegraph_Rog
For the record, despite @BernieSanders deceptive ad to the contrary, @NashuaTelegraph has not endorsed any Dem prez candidate #nhpolitics
Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)shouldn't have printed them.
brooklynite
(94,571 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)which has denied a recount to clear up all the discrepancies in their caucus results.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)cited their words, just I did on post #1 of the largest newspaper in Iowa which had endorsed Hillary.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)a lesson: don't lie outright, just mislead.
Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)Des Moines Register, do you agree with them?
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)I don't agree with them. They know I don't agree with them. So they flood into these caucuses and dominate them and really intimidate people who show up there to support me.
Here's what she told MoveOn during a public conference call.
You've been refusing to back down when any of us who are in political leadership are not living up the standards that we should set for ourselves. I think you have helped to change the face of American politics for the better - both online and in the corridors of power.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511142082
DanTex
(20,709 posts)But recognizing when Bernie misleads is difficult. For example, implying that organizations endorsed Bernie when they didn't. To the point where said organizations have to publicly complain.
Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)up-thread the first in regards to a major newspaper which had endorsed Hillary and whose words you now wish to ignore and the second post a blatant example of true misleading by Hillary.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)what Bernie has been doing, is dishonest.
Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)Furthermore Bernie never stated nor implied that he had their endorsement, he just cited their words describing him.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)He ran an add named "Endorsed" in which he quoted organizations that didn't actually endorse him. It was so flagrantly dishonest that one organization had to actually publicly complain. And before that, he sent mailers with logos that again falsely implied endorsements, and again the organizations had to publicly complain that he was using their logos without permission.
You're free to ignore the facts, but if you step outside the Bernie bubble, don't be surprised when other people actually pay attention to what's going on.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Grow up!