Maddow: Hard to see Sanders winning

[ProudToBeLiberal]

For Rachel Maddow, the thought of Bernie Sanders' candidacy making it all the way to the Democratic National Convention in July is "hard to imagine."

"Bernie Sanders is running this fascinating campaign where he’s all about people being angry and dissatisfied and frustrated. He wants you to be disaffected and frustrated about an economic system that keeps you from ever ascending the ladder," the debate co-moderator told Playboy in an interview published Thursday ahead of the MSNBC telecast.

While remarking upon Sanders' success in tapping into people's emotions as "cathartic" and popular, she cautioned that his "sort of economic populism is a tough sell."

"The diagnosis is right; the cure isn’t easy," she said. "My prediction for Bernie: populist hero forever but hard to imagine him still being there at the convention."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/new-hampshire-primary-2016-live-updates/2016/02/rachel-maddow-bernie-sanders-2016-218778#ixzz3zFd6EKJm

Looks like Rachel is going under the bus.

[virtualobserver]

1. it is a "you can't fight city hall" viewpoint

Bernie is going to have to prove everyone wrong.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

3. Glad to see you aren't thowing her under the bus. Nt

[virtualobserver]

16. she says nothing critical of Bernie......"The diagnosis is right"

we all recognize the monumental task that this is.

She says that it is "hard to see", not impossible.

[notadmblnd]

80. It's a "No. We Can't!" viewpoint.

[k8conant]

2. Rachel will come around when Bernie keeps going...

don't know about the likes of Tweety.

[restorefreedom]

4. bye, rachel

you probably sold out long ago.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

8. Well, that didn't take too long. Nt

[pangaia]

51. She did change her tune a bit, eh.

Who got to her?

[restorefreedom]

65. most likely, the people who sign her paychecks. nt

[pangaia]

69. It was a rhetorical question. You are right, of course.

[restorefreedom]

87. oh, ok..well there were actually several possibilities...

i almost answered...matthews lol

[restorefreedom]

62. i am tired of the bullshit. let them either be neutral, disclose their bias, or STFU. nt

[Nanjeanne]

5. Why under the bus?

As a Sanders supporter I think it is a much more difficult road for Bernie. He is the underdog to an establishment very politically savvy and well financed candidate who has been running for President most of her life. She has a very well oiled machine and tons of surrogates who are tasked with doing her dirty work.

She sees Bernie as a populist hero who is probably not going to be the nomination. All Sanders people know it's a very tough road to get past the Clinton machine.

As a Sanders supporter I will do my best to get him to the finish line. But I would be a fool to think he will have it easier than the anointed one.

Doesn't have anything to do with his policies not being the best. Just hard to get past the corporate media noise.

[riversedge]

18. Sanders has his own fans who "tons of surrogates who are tasked with doing [HIS} dirty work"

I changed -her to His. And he does.

[Nanjeanne]

47. I hope so. Haven't seen them on tv too much. But I hope so.

[BuelahWitch]

89. The Hillary fan above was talking about here on DU

AFAIK, Bernie doesn't have any "surrogates" like Claire McCaskill who go on the morning shows and bleat out Hillarian talking points.

[DesertFlower]

57. i agree. nt

[politicaljunkie41910]

6. Rachal Maddow has been a poorly disguised Bernie Supporter from the very beginning.

Who is Politico trying to fool.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

9. Rachel gave the interview to Playboy. It's from her words. Nt

[riversedge]

27. I am surprised to read those words coming from Maddow--for I, too, believe

she has been biased toward Sanders. She tries not to be does not always succeed.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

34. Well at least Chris Matthews is neutral on MSNBC. Nt

[pangaia]

55. I know what you did there.

[Fearless]

7. That which is hard is frequently the best course of action.

[Warren DeMontague]

10. "People should not vote for Bernie Sanders, because he cannot win"

"Unless people vote for him. Which they should not."

[beam me up scottie]

11. *yawn*

[DrDan]

12. under the bus with her post haste

[RiverLover]

13. The windows in that Ivory Tower must be getting dirty.

She isn't seeing clearly.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

14. Under the bus she goes. Nt

[RiverLover]

19. whatever

[JRLeft]

15. I don't believe Rachel is a corporatist, I see her as living inside of the DC bubble.

She's a progressive.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

21. I guess she is semi under the bus then? Nt

[JRLeft]

29. How is that throwing her under the bus?

[ProudToBeLiberal]

33. That's why my comment was in the form of a question. Nt

[JRLeft]

45. I like her, but hate MSNBC and all corporate news.

I like Chris Hayes too.

[AtomicKitten]

17. She has been assimilated into the corporate machine that is MSNBC. Damn shame.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

20. Well at least you are consistent. Under the bus she goes. Nt

[AtomicKitten]

22. and you are consistent bring bullshit here because Camp Weathervane can't win on the issues

[ProudToBeLiberal]

24. Thank you. We each play our part. Nt

[AtomicKitten]

38. glad you've admitted your function here & that is to try to distract with bullshit

[ProudToBeLiberal]

41. Can you stop putting words in my mouth? Nt

[Punkingal]

75. You really have a thing for buses, don't you?

[Punkingal]

86. Bwahahahaha...

[RKP5637]

44. Yep, she's a Comcast employee, basically, making big $$$$$'s. None can tell me that doesn't influence

ones thoughts.

[AtomicKitten]

49. I haven't watched cable TV in about 18 months and she has really changed since last I tuned in.

[RKP5637]

66. I watched her briefly the other night, she now seems a polished 'one of the MSNBC/Comcast herd' than

the anti-establishment path maker she once was. I tuned it off.

[mcar]

23. You are in good company under the bus, Rachel!

[sadoldgirl]

25. She went under the bus, as soon as she stopped mentioning

the TPP. All of MSNBC, including Rachel,want to keep their jobs

in a place, which is ruled by the corporations. So, your question

is obsolete. None of the pundits, who are following their corp

masters can be counted as neutral. Just look at the time they

spent on Trump!

[ProudToBeLiberal]

31. So, you had Rachel under the bus a long time ago? Nt

[sadoldgirl]

39. I will still listen to her as far as the

Flint situation or the methane disaster in CA is
concerned. As far as the elections (not just primaries)
are concerned, I know that she will follow orders.

Just wait until she will speak very positively about
Rubio.

[bettyellen]

76. "she will speak very positively about Rubio." only if you think what she just said was

negative against Bernie. She actually supports him, for fucks sake.

[ChiciB1]

26. THINK! MSNBC.... n/t

[ProudToBeLiberal]

40. So in addition to Rachel going under the bus, it's going to leave her behind. Nt

[daleanime]

30. Well, nice to know....

how you treat people who is agree with you.

[Karmadillo]

32. An out lesbian hosting a prime-time news show used to be "hard to imagine," too.

It's not so hard to imagine now, is it.

[valerief]

52. Ha! Good point! Remember when Ellen came out and the media dumped on her?

She came back as America's daytime sweetheart. That couldn't be predicted in the 90s either.

[JudyM]

64. For the win. Nt

[valerief]

35. Damn, she's certainly jumped the shark.

[font color="red" size="24" face="serif"]"No, we can't! No, we can't!
Fuck hope, cuz no, we can't!"[/font]

[ProudToBeLiberal]

36. So, what you are saying is that she needs to go under the bus. Nt

[valerief]

42. No, I said she jumped the shark. nt

[ProudToBeLiberal]

46. My apologies. Nt

[grasswire]

37. when was the interview conducted?

Prior to Iowa?

[RiverLover]

60. It must have been. The article about it was "prepared for 2/4 release".

That's a good point.

Maybe she sees more clearly now.

[Paper Roses]

43. I miss Keith so much, just imagine his take on all this! N/t

[ProudToBeLiberal]

50. Keith would be for Hillary Clinton. He is a lot more prragmatic. Nt

[beam me up scottie]

54. .

[ProudToBeLiberal]

59. I promise I wouldn't respond to you anymore after my post was hidden, but oh well

I followed Keith from his early MSNBC days to his brief gig with Current TV. He was a lot more prragmatic when it game to political issues.

[beam me up scottie]

68. Keith Olbermann Special Comment: Clinton-Obama Assassination

Somehow I don't think Keith is THAT pragmatic.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

72. Damn, you got me good. Well played. I concede defeat on this issue. nt

[lumberjack_jeff]

53. Consider it a dare. nt

[Go Vols]

56. :/

http://www.towleroad.com/2016/01/hillaryclinton_rachelmaddow_01/

[Mike Nelson]

58. Mostly agree with Rachel, but...

...surprised she shared these thoughts in an article to be posted on the day she's moderating a debate with Sanders and Clinton. I'd like to see Joy Reid take her place...

[RiverLover]

63. That'd be great. I love Joy. /nt

[tularetom]

67. She more or less dove under the bus on her own, nobody threw her

She has more or less elevated herself to rock star status at the network and I'm sure she likes the rarified atmosphere and exalted circles in which she now travels.

She doesn't need Bernie Sanders, she's set for life if she just mouths the proper platitudes. And I'm guessing that she was told that in so many words by the corporate suits who run the network.

Hey this is America, 2016, there's no future in standing up for the little guy. It just took a little longer for Rachel to be convinced than suckers like Matthews.

[TheProgressive]

70. Rachel Maddow: A sellout just like MSNBC

Rachel is an intelligent person. Obviously, money trumps ethics and morals.

[cherokeeprogressive]

71. So. Love Rachel, or throw her under the bus? Underthebusunderthebusunderthebusunderthebus...

Love someone with all my heart... or it's under the bus!

Agree with someone, or it's under the bus!

Criticize someone? Under. The. Bus!!

Fuck it's like a chant with you Hillary peeps.

[beam me up scottie]

73. I think we should have a pool! Who's in?

How many times will the op repeat the phrase "under the bus"?

I say 17 times.

[cherokeeprogressive]

79. My Aunt used to have a parrot. Jake. My cousin taught him to say "Fuck You!"

I bet I heard that parrot say fuck you a million times before they got rid of it.

It was like he KNEW when someone was upset. At the first hint of an argument he'd start screaming it. He'd scream it so loud it woke up their neighbors in the middle of the night.

These people parrot the same thing over and over.

17 times? I'll take the over LOL.

[beam me up scottie]

84. Perfect analogy.

[islandmkl]

74. who cares about any of these pundits...it's fucking WWF or E or what the hell ever it is...

good guy, bad guy, somebody to cheer, somebody to boo...

and, in reality, we are like the only people watching...

about 3/4 of America, or probably a lot more, don't even know who the fuck Tweety or Rachel or Andrea or Wolf or ad nauseam are or care what the hell they have to say...

we could occasionally do ourselves a favor and tune out all this bullshit and just get down to working on the campaign and talking to real people who might actually get out and vote and make a goddam difference...

[Avalux]

77. WRONG. I for one, and not angry and dissatisfied. I am hopeful and see a possible new beginning.

My emotions towards Bernie and his campaign are POSITIVE. I am excited to have the chance to vote for man who can take this country in another direction with our help, all working together to stop the bleeding and change things for the better.

It won't be easy, but I'd rather work my ass off for it than be complacent and watch things continue as they are.

[madfloridian]

78. Will keep that in mind as she moderates the debate tonight.

Whatever happened to neutrality in the media, and neutrality among party leaders?

[ProudToBeLiberal]

81. You leave Dean out of this. You've demonstrated a long time ago that you don't care for him anymore.

nt

[madfloridian]

85. I did not mention Dean?? No, I really don't care much for him right now.

But I did not even say his name or post about him.

[Iggy Knorr]

82. I, for one

would be Proud to be Under the (ProudtobeLiberal) Bus...

What does it take?

[antigop]

88. Beware: Someone Is Trying to Convince You That Bernie Can't Win

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/12/15/beware-someone-trying-convince-you-bernie-cant-win

The theme is to desperately convince us that Sanders can’t win. They repeat it over and over, even though Sanders polls as well or better than Hillary Clinton does against every leading Republican candidate.

Behind this effort is an alarmed corporate old guard that still runs the Democratic Party establishment and their allies in the corporate think tanks and the media, with a special nod to NBC/MSNBC, which is owned and operated by General Electric and Comcast.

[leveymg]

90. It's hard to see Rachel losing her job at MSNBC- Comcast

She likes her bread and knows how to butter it the way the suits want it buttered. That's just how people stay employed in corporate America.