2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTranscripts: I see exactly where this is going:
If the campaign releases transcripts and there's nothing damaging in them (just like with the emails - nothing incriminating was found in them, either), Hillary will be accused of destroying incriminating transcripts and only releasing the non-incriminating ones and/or she will be accused of altering the transcripts that the campaign did release.
As sure as night follows day.
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Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Do we really want 4 - 8 years of Clinton bad decisions causing scandals?
As if she will get things done with this kind of crap constantly popping up.
Empowerer
(3,900 posts)for her detractors to accuse her of wrongdoing and to insist that there's a there there even when there's absolutely no there there.
And you can bet that, if Bernie is the nominee - or even starts to look like he could become the nominee - this fire will be turned on him as well and, as they've already proven, their target does not have to have done anything wrong for them to smear them to hell and back.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Innocent until proven guilty? Nah.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Just like with the private server, a poor judgement call on easily foreseeable consequences.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)Or if she did, you won't like it.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)INdemo
(6,994 posts)middle class and praises the 1%...She wont release them and it will appear she is hiding something and she is.
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)If you haven't, you're obviously just making shit up about what they contain.
840high
(17,196 posts)it's shit? Have you seen them?
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)But I'm not the one making statements about what is or isn't contained in them, am I?
INdemo
(6,994 posts)in one evening for speeches ($400,000) and those fees doesn't influence her one bit???
Let me ask you this, If Hillary Clinton told you the sun rises in the West you would believe her ? Right?
Because that makes about as much sense believing Hillary when she said she was not influenced by the speaking fees.
Hillary stood there last night at the Debate for Two hours and lied.She all of a sudden is this progressive that is not influenced by Wall St money?
Her next fund raiser is at Bain Capital affiliate,A Mitt Romney Company.
So do you Think Mitt will write her a check?
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/12511134307
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/hillary-clinton-postpones-fundraiser-financial-services-218708#ixzz3zAA1rv16
You Hillary supporters don't understand the fact that if Hillary wins the nomination a large percentage of Democrats will not show on election day ...so Welcome to the White House a Republican
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)to at least make sure there are no 47% gaffes in them. Hundreds of people heard her at each speech, including some who would wish her ill. If she makes it to the GE and then gets shot down by Repubs with dirt from one of the speeches, she will be done in the Dem party.
And of course, people like me would like to see the transcripts just to see if she is consistent on the issues when speaking both to the 1% and the great unwashed. There better be lots of "I am going to be tough on Wall Street" in them, since she keeps telling us, the primary voters that she will. She is such a progressive, don't cha know.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Hoppy
(3,595 posts)In another speech to Goldman, she outlined her plan to restore Glass-Stiegel.
Then she spoke to the health care corporations where she explained how single payer would benefit all of them.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)betsuni
(25,526 posts)What a ridiculous waste of time whipping themselves into a lather of frenzied anger over nothing.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)when she's talking to them, thus solidifying the belief of many that any talk she makes about taking care of the middle class is just that - talk. She doesn't intend to harm her benefactors at all.
The other point is: did she actually make any speeches or was that just cover for GS to give her thousands of "quid pro quo" dollars.
Both are something Americans should "work themselves in a lather" over.
Empowerer
(3,900 posts)for president.
But then they think that she would actually say something really incriminating in a speech that she knew was being recorded.
Hillary-haters - you so crazy!
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Empowerer
(3,900 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Romney's 47% remark was caught on video, of course. If her speeches were recorded on video, she may be toast if she made any type of remark like Romney did.
Empowerer
(3,900 posts)A transcript captures what was actually said.
betsuni
(25,526 posts)and coddles, or something. I can never figure out these conspiracies and that assures me I'm still sane.
frylock
(34,825 posts)oasis
(49,387 posts)You can be sure they would manufacture something to build on.
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)fourcents
(107 posts)even though the GOP are just as bad or worse on contributions from them. Bernie seems to have no skeletons in the closet.
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)But if he wins the nomination, the Republicans will put skeletons in his closet for him.
fourcents
(107 posts)Let me tell you a few of his major accomplishments: He known as the amendment king, he was one of the founders of the progressive caucus, he help write the ACA and got it expanded, he got the fed audited for the first time ever! maybe you don't care what he did for the veterans look it up. He manage to get voted in overwhelmingly by both Dems. and Repubs. I got a lot more. He is not rich after all those years in office so I can assure you they will not find anything on him.
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)ohnoyoudidnt
(1,858 posts)I doubt they would have paid Bernie $600K to tell them what he thought about the finance industry in this country.
Whatever is in the transcripts doesn't matter that much to me. The large amount of money she accepted from the people she did does.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)UCLA, etc. I bet they were bad, bad, bad.