So about those seating arrangements at tonights debate.

[pinebox]

[Cheese Sandwich]

1. Perfect

[tomm2thumbs]

27. actually, the text should probably say 'lobbyistS'...

Howard Dean is now paid by a Health Care lobbying firm - its called selling your soul

https://theintercept.com/2016/01/14/howard-dean-lobbyist/

[PonyUp]

2. I thought that was Steve I heard cheering for Hillary. n/t

[99th_Monkey]

3. Invoking George Carlin

[pinebox]

5. Invoking Rise Against

and the lyrics say it ALL about today's political climate and those of us who struggle and fight for what is right and how we're fed up!

[grasswire]

6. thank you

Love ya, George!

[cantbeserious]

18. ^^^ This ^^^

eom

[senz]

19. He was truly prescient.

[grasswire]

4. OMG, OMG

That says it all, people.

Boooooooo!

[grasswire]

7. re-tweet this if you can, people

this ought to be viral

[Cali_Democrat]

8. Sit-Gate has been born

OMG...Howard Dean was sitting next to a lobbyist at the Democratic debate.

[fourcents]

9. I wish Bernie would literally call out name all the

the people associated with her campaign and there associations with things she says she opposes. Then even point out in the crowd to those lobbyist during a debate. How cool would that be?

[NanceGreggs]

10. Do you have stills of everyone in the audience?

Or maybe the official seating plan?

I'd like to review them, and see what conspiracy theories I can fabricate as to why who was sitting next to who, and what nefarious connections between them are now obvious to anyone paying attention!

My favourite thing is to look for the people who are wearing the same colour as an accessory or accent - like a red tie, red trim on a navy blue dress, a red handkerchief tucked ever so discreetly in someone's breast pocket. I can REALLY go to town on the idea that it's code, man - and they're all in on it (whatever "it" is) together.

"Who's texting who?" is another one. Just watch the people checking their phones at the same time, and then texting a response. You're gonna try to convince me they're not ALL communicating with each other about destroying that whiny middle-class once and for all?

Ah - playing pretend is so much fun. It's just really sad when people take it seriously.

[leftofcool]

11. Here is another one.

Pick out a couple of ladies in the audience and see if they are wearing the same shade of lipstick. Those are probably two Hillary supporters who earlier in the day hit the cosmetic department at one of the major mall shops. They team up and go in pairs so they can twist arm someone poor sales clerk into voting for Hillary then buy the same shade of lipstick. It's a code, you know?

[NanceGreggs]

12. Good one!

And let's not forget the far-too-frequently overlooked astrological aspect.

If there's an Aquarian sitting next to a Pisces - AND there's a Scorpio seated next to a Capricorn within three rows of them, you just KNOW there's a Gemini in the balcony who's been paying people big bucks to endorse Hillary.

[toshiba783]

15. lol

[pinebox]

34. Ya it's hilarious our democracy is sold to the highest bidder

Fucking hilarious

[artislife]

16. It is sadder when people are alright with Banksters cheering on a candidate. nt

[senz]

25. But it's not nearly as much fun as ridiculing the comments of others on a message board.

[NanceGreggs]

26. Not ridiculing comments ...

... just having a laugh at the CTs people come up with!

[pinebox]

33. Nance

Why is it ok that bankers are in the pockets of our lawmakers?
I don't care who they are and I don't care what party they are a member of, this is an issue which should concern everybody.
Our democracy has been sold to the highest bidder and it's disgusting.

You want the seating arrangements? ok.
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2016/02/100-million-floods-into-presidential-super-pacs-in-second-half-of-2015/

[Uncle Joe]

13. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, pinebox.

[tomm2thumbs]

14. $ 675,000.00 gets you VERY good seats

and a seat at the MAIN table come January 2017

[senz]

22. Why, I'm sure that's true.

If she wins the presidency, god forbid, the Banksters can look forward to a fine return on their investment.

[restorefreedom]

31. yes

John Iadarola
John Iadarola – ?@jiadarola

If someone gave you $250k for a speech, wouldn't you wonder what they expected in return? #DemDebate

[madfloridian]

17. Will never forget what Elmendorf said about bloggers...

And they are still doing it. The bloggers still tend to hit from the left, the Democrats are still trending right.

Also a Democratic party spokesperson (Elmendorf) had a very "pragmatic" point of view about such bloggers then in 2006.

"The bloggers and online donors represent an important resource for the party, but they are not representative of the majority you need to win elections," said Steve Elmendorf, a Democratic lobbyist who advised Kerry's 2004 presidential campaign. "The trick will be to harness their energy and their money without looking like you are a captive of the activist left."

Remember reporter Jim Vandehei?

from Jim VandeHei on the perceived rising power of the bloggers.

Democrats are getting an early glimpse of an intraparty rift that could complicate efforts to win back the White House: fiery liberals raising their voices on Web sites and in interest groups vs. elected officials trying to appeal to a much broader audience.

...... The blogs-vs.-establishment fight represents the latest version of a familiar Democratic dispute. It boils down to how much national candidates should compromise on what are considered core Democratic values -- such as abortion rights, gun control and opposition to conservative judges -- to win national elections.

[Blue_Adept]

32. A decade ago is an eternity ago in both the online world and politics

[Spitfire of ATJ]

20. Hillary supporters DON'T CARE.....

Some are even PROUD to see Wall Street support her. They think what's good for Wall Street is good for America.

[lobodons]

21. People, he's sitting next to Howard Dean!!

Yes, that Howard Dean the progressive liberal champion Howard Dean!!

[senz]

23. LOL, it brings up that old line from 1984...

"Under the spreading chestnut tree, I sold you and you sold me."

[pnwmom]

24. He was John Kerry's campaign manager. Are we supposed to hate John Kerry, too? n/t

[pinebox]

35. Kerry is a good SOS but he's a puppet.

Owned by the 1%

[senz]

36. Good point. Hill is a puppet who doesn't do a good job.

She can hold down a position, but her records as Senator and as SOS are barely adequate. She lacks the qualities that we, as her prospective employers, want and need in a president.

Someone (ahem) should write an OP from the perspective of us as the employer and Hill, Bernie (Trump, Cruz) as job seekers. It might be a good way of getting Hill folk to start thinking beyond the glossy surface.

It could be revealing.

[senz]

28. Lobbying for Goldman Sachs is now a noble endeavor.

Our nation's founders had this sort of thing in mind all along, of course. It's hard to believe we could have misunderstood them so profoundly for nearly 250 years.

Glad we finally got it all straightened out.

[NanceGreggs]

29. No. The "noble endeavour" ...

... is now looking at who sat next to who, and creating CTs based on that.

[senz]

37. Nance, there is a difference between a message board and the U.S. government.

[Hoyt]

30. Yeah, but they are both leaning away from each other. And that kid looks like a Young Republican.

[kath]

38. Was Henry Kissinger there cheering her on?

[LiberalLovinLug]

39. This snap must have been taken when Sanders was speaking

Elmendorf looks absolutely terrified

And Dean looks like he is thinking "Oh my gawd...what the hell was I thinking throwing my endorsement towards Hillary?"

[Ferd Berfel]

40. ...but none of the money from Goldman will influance Hillary

......bull shit!

ANd Dean has made his Faustian deal - perfect

[zappaman]

41. ok. n/t