2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumRice and Powell did it (classified emails) too!
Yeah, that's a great line. I've done the same thing as the Republicans!
Go Hillary, tell us how you're different.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)The national security system and justice systems in America are broken. So are its politics and elections. There will be no happy landing.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)How to manipulate your party 1.0
erlewyne
(1,115 posts)Is Lieberman still around ... he'll be her pick as vp
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)The Hill Folk are treading water and grasping at straws.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)Information security is like other types of security. If the SOS wanted to take a particular route to work, previous SOSs had also taken that route, the route was not blocked off, and security personnel said it was okay, I wouldn't blame the SOS (no matter what party) if it later turned out to be a security risk to take that route. There are certainly things that a senator/secretary of state/serious presidential candidate ought to have good judgment about that in my opinion, Hillary has not always had good judgment about. But the way the technology in the SOS office was set up? Ridiculous.
It's a matter of "we can't get her on the things on which she ought to be got, so let's get her on what we can, even if it's stupid."
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)She weighed the pros vs the cons of being the first federal official to set up her own private server for govt business & the risk of getting called out on it failed to override the benefit of hiding her actions.
30000 emails deleted. Scrubbed. Think about it.
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Whatever she was hiding would have been much worse than this fall out.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)Shit, if we're letting any regular old civvie Joe Blow get off with mishandling classified documents, why are Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden not being offered pardons and the keys to Washington bloody D.C. yet?
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)... she's Clinton.
Now they're retroactively reclassifying Powell and Rices emails too...
This is crazy that dems would by on to a republican line of attack just to attack Clinton
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)John Dillinger
Gothmog
(145,242 posts)Powell has been out of office for a long time but the intelligence services still classified material that was not remotely confidential.
One of the key items that was classified in the Clinton e-mails were discussions of NYT and Washington Post articles discussing the drone program. The articles in the NYT and the Washington Post were in the public domain but the e-mails discussing this articles were classified. Here is a great article on this issue http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/02/04/rep-elijah-cummings-explains-how-new-revelation/208388
According to a February 4 report from NBC News, the State Department inspector general has "determined that classified information was sent to the personal email accounts of former Secretary of State Colin Powell and the senior staff of former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice."
As with classified information reportedly forwarded to Clinton's private email server while she was secretary of state, none of the material was reportedly marked classified at the time, but instead has been retroactively determined to have contained classified information.
While media outlets have fixated on the retroactive classification of emails sent to Clinton as uniquely damaging, the new revelations suggest that those emails are in fact part of what NBC News has termed "a longstanding pattern of senior officials at the State Department and other government agencies trying to talk around classified information over email, sometimes unsuccessfully."
Powell has questioned the significance of the material sent to his private email account, telling NBC News the contents were "fairly minor" and asking it to be publicly released "so that a normal, air-breathing mammal would look at them and say, 'What's the issue?'" The Clinton campaign has also called for the release of a set of Clinton's emails currently being withheld from the public by the State Department, calling the decision to withhold their release "over-classification run amok."
I trust Congressman Cummings on this issue