2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThis Elizabeth Warren video MUST go viral. The proof is in the pudding!!
&feature=youtu.beHillary Clinton challenged critics who describe her as too close to monied interests to name a time when that cozy relationship influenced her policy decisions. Careful of what you ask for Hillary. One of the first bills that came up after Hillary became a senator was the bankruptcy bill, and guess what? -- she voted in favor of it.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)JTFrog
(14,274 posts)"It's that good."
How many times have I seen the gleeful rubbing of hands together with this proclamation in the last year or so (other than the republicans who have been doing that for decades)?
Anyone who wishes to see her campaign derailed would be much better served bolstering their candidate rather than trying to sling mud at her. A candidate should be able to be elected based on the their platform, not by praying someone finds or trumps up some non-existent dirt that will eliminate the competition. At least when the competition is between two people from the same party.
Just my completely unimportant opinion.
speaktruthtopower
(800 posts)who doesn't support the financial services industry won't last long. On the other hand, the fact that she was elected Senator in a state she never lived in before with no prior political experience suggests Wall Street was pulling for her before she even started.
casperthegm
(643 posts)In last night's debate she challenged the notion that just because she receives enormous sums of Wall Street money that doesn't mean it affects her voting. She asked for any example where she changed her vote. Here it is, plain as day.
Clinton supporters, how can you see such hypocrisy and just go on supporting her? Help me understand.
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)brooklynite
(94,571 posts)Secretary Clinton is right to fight back against Republicans trying to sneak Wall Street giveaways into the must-pass government funding bill, Ms. Warren, the liberal senator from Massachusetts, wrote on Facebook after Mrs. Clinton published an Op-Ed article in The New York Times with her proposals to regulate Wall Street.
In the Op-Ed, Mrs. Clinton specifically called for Republicans not to defund the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which Ms. Warren previously oversaw. Whether its attacking the C.F.P.B., undermining new rules to rein in unscrupulous retirement advisers, or rolling back any part of the hard-fought progress weve made on financial reform, Ms. Warren wrote, she and I agree.
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/07/elizabeth-warren-shows-support-for-hillary-clintons-wall-street-plan/
Ever so slightly more recent, don't you agree?
And of course, if we want to pursue this issue, if this is such a smoking gun, why did Warren urge Clinton to run 10 years later?
kennetha
(3,666 posts)some of them can be as fact challenged as the Republicans when it suits their purposes.
I made a single word comment. Sounds like I'm not the one who is fact challenged.
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)casperthegm
(643 posts)I know Sanders supporters tend to really dislike Clinton, but if she receives a favorable comment from Warren then I am fine with acknowledging that. Good for her. But does that somehow sweep the other vote under the rug? And you really have no concerns that the big banks and Wall Street are throwing money at her and they don't have any expectations in return?
If it was just the Wall Street thing as pointed out in this video, maybe I could see overlooking it, plugging my nose and supporting her. But there are so many other things that just paint her as an establishment politician; Keystone, gay marriage, the email investigation, the war in Iraq, etc. I just don't understand how all of these things are just dismissed when there is a much more authentic candidate who is running.
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)Theyve also raised $2 billion for the Clinton Foundation.
By giving just 12 speeches to Wall Street banks, private equity firms, and other financial corporations, Clinton made $2,935,000 from 2013 to 2015 more than many people earn in a lifetime.
Source: https://theintercept.com/2016/02/05/hillary-clinton-and-bernie-sanders-brawl-over-his-insinuation-that-shes-corrupt/
Yeah, I'd say she definitely knows how things work in Washington -- to her favor for sure.