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Hillary blames homeowners for the crash of 2008 (Original Post) UglyGreed Feb 2016 OP
And yet, somehow, we're expected to just trust her.. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #1
Out of context, as usual... DanTex Feb 2016 #2
Says who UglyGreed Feb 2016 #3
How about posting the context to let people decide for themselves? DanTex Feb 2016 #4
Words UglyGreed Feb 2016 #5
So why not post the context? Pretty simple, right? Just post a few sentences before and after. DanTex Feb 2016 #6
Why didn't you post UglyGreed Feb 2016 #7
Changing the subject, huh? You really want to avoid the context of Clinton's remarks. DanTex Feb 2016 #9
Feel free to UglyGreed Feb 2016 #12
It's your OP, the bare minimum you could do in terms of honesty is provide the context. DanTex Feb 2016 #13
Round and round we UglyGreed Feb 2016 #15
It's your OP, it's your responsibility to not mislead. Unless misleading was your intention. DanTex Feb 2016 #16
That's a fail. You can't come up with the context? elias49 Feb 2016 #24
"It's your OP, it's your responsibility to not mislead." Considering the source, just WOW! Kip Humphrey Feb 2016 #26
It's so odd you never manage to provide that clarifying context jeff47 Feb 2016 #18
Yeah, it's my job to search for the video that the OP edited misleadingly. DanTex Feb 2016 #19
When you want to claim there is magic clarifying context, it is. jeff47 Feb 2016 #21
Given your habit of fabricating quotes, I can see why you like this video. DanTex Feb 2016 #23
Glub glub elias49 Feb 2016 #25
This is all they got, character assasination and not issues uponit7771 Feb 2016 #22
Homebuyers should have known better than the professionals who were selling the homes.. Fumesucker Feb 2016 #8
Good thing I did not listen to UglyGreed Feb 2016 #11
Que surprise. Baitball Blogger Feb 2016 #10
Oy VEY. AzDar Feb 2016 #14
Banks are the gatekeepers nichomachus Feb 2016 #17
Would you UglyGreed Feb 2016 #20
If those homeowners... HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #27

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
4. How about posting the context to let people decide for themselves?
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 09:58 AM
Feb 2016

Would that be a little too honest?

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
5. Words
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:02 AM
Feb 2016

matter....... many homeowners were tricked into loans at that time. I bought a home during this time period and if I did not triple check what I was being sold by the banks my family and I would be homeless.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
6. So why not post the context? Pretty simple, right? Just post a few sentences before and after.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:04 AM
Feb 2016

Is there some reason that you don't want people to be able to hear her remarks in context? Hmm, what could that be?

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
7. Why didn't you post
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:06 AM
Feb 2016

content when you said Karl Rove should come out and tell us all that he is funding and/or endorsing Bernie Sanders????

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
9. Changing the subject, huh? You really want to avoid the context of Clinton's remarks.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:09 AM
Feb 2016

I wonder what you're worried about? What do you think the context of those remarks might have been? Why are you so adamant about leaving it out?

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
13. It's your OP, the bare minimum you could do in terms of honesty is provide the context.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:17 AM
Feb 2016

Do you not think context matters? Are you trying to hide it intentionally? What gives?

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
15. Round and round we
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:44 AM
Feb 2016

go. Feel free to lend me hand and educate myself and others here at DU. I don't mind when people point out to me where I went wrong. Like I wrote before feel free to correct the record in my thread.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
16. It's your OP, it's your responsibility to not mislead. Unless misleading was your intention.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:49 AM
Feb 2016

The context, of course, is that there were many factors at play. Banks were obviously a big one, but the part where she goes after Wall Street was edited out for propaganda purposes.

And the sentence that she said there wasn't "blaming homeowners for the crash", she simply said that homeowners who paid money to not have to disclose their income should have known better. Do you disagree with that?

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
18. It's so odd you never manage to provide that clarifying context
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 11:53 AM
Feb 2016

and always attack OPs for some not including some magic context that only you know.

Oh well, I guess we lowly proles are not deserving of the magic context.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
21. When you want to claim there is magic clarifying context, it is.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 12:07 PM
Feb 2016

Otherwise, it's pretty obvious you actually got nothing, and are screaming "CONTEXT!!!" as a last resort.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
23. Given your habit of fabricating quotes, I can see why you like this video.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 12:12 PM
Feb 2016

In this case, of course, it's obvious that there is missing context, because she first says that there are many causes, and then the video cuts to just one of them. And even there, it's not "blaming" anything on homeowners, it's simply pointing out the obvious truth that if you're paying extra money in order to not disclose your income to a lender, you should probably think twice about it.

I don't see how anyone can disagree with that. Do you think it's a good idea to take out a loan, which to qualify for, you pay extra money in order not to disclose your income?

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
11. Good thing I did not listen to
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:12 AM
Feb 2016

what I was being told to do. Even though I was mourning the loss of my mother and being sued by my siblings I still was able to think clearly and thank God I had the time to do diligent research. Some think greed is good but it does harm many people in many ways.

Baitball Blogger

(46,709 posts)
10. Que surprise.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:10 AM
Feb 2016

What do you expect from a free marketer? Deregulate and loosen up the money, and when people take on financially responsibility for something they cannot possibly keep up with, blame them.

How is that being a good steward of our financial markets?

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
17. Banks are the gatekeepers
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 11:41 AM
Feb 2016

There's nothing wrong with asking for money. The gatekeepers, banks, are the ones who are supposed to protect the system from collapse.

It's like if my brother in law comes and asks me for $100,000 (which I don't have, by the way) to open a frozen yogurt stand in Antartica. He's a jerk, but if I lend it to him, I'm the problem.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
20. Would you
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 11:58 AM
Feb 2016

tell someone to lie to you, make up fake income and talk them into taking more money than they can pay you back???? Well if you could take their home make them buy insurance to cover your loss perhaps you would think about it.....

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
27. If those homeowners...
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 12:54 PM
Feb 2016

...are so crafty and clever that they can swindle Wall Street banks, then I'd say the bankers are too stupid to be in charge.

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