Iowa party boss holding onto contested vote totals drives car with the license plate ‘HRC 2016’

[TheSarcastinator]

Shillary needs to release both the vote totals and the speech transcripts. There is a reason she is perceived as dishonest.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/iowa-party-boss-holding-onto-contested-vote-totals-drives-car-with-the-license-plate-hrc-2016/

"The state Democratic Party chair who refuses to release raw vote totals from Monday’s razor-thin Iowa caucuses is a longtime Hillary Clinton supporter who even drives a car that officially displays her support for the presidential candidate.

Dr. Andrea “Andy” McGuire served as co-chairwoman of Clinton’s 2008 campaign in Iowa, and the Des Moines Register reported the license plate on her Buick Enclave reads: “HRC 2016.”"

[JRLeft]

1. Bernie must have gotten more votes.

[Enthusiast]

62. That would be a good guess.

[GoneFishin]

74. Pretty good guess. Otherwise why hide them?

[Ferd Berfel]

87. This BS certainly Confirms that Bernie Won

The DNC and DWS are also just as obviously do not believe in democracy. They are afraid of the will of the people. There is no other interpretation of this.

[brooklynite]

2. Life is so much simple when it's built on ignorance and insults...

Clinton had no role in reporting the vote totals in Iowa. Each district had a Precinct Chair elected by the attendees. It was his/her job to report the numbers. The Clinton Precinct Captain had no more authority or access to data that the Sanders Precinct Captain.

[daleanime]

4. Nice to know...

that you're living the good life. Hope for your continued happiness.

[cherokeeprogressive]

10. The word "Captain" appears nowhere in the article. You used it twice.

The article is about the State Party chair, who just happens to support Hillary Clinton to the point she took the time to acquire a personalized license plate for her private vehicle that reads "HRC 2016".

What next? Do you want us to believe HRC stands for Human Rights Commission? I bet you believe us to be that ignorant.

[brooklynite]

21. I'm responding to the person above who claims it's Clinton's responsibility to report the vote total

...and I'm pointing out the mechanics of the Caucus process: specifically that there's a precinct chair who IS responsible for reporting the results, and Clinton and Sanders precinct captain (watching everything that goes on) who are NOT...

[cherokeeprogressive]

33. Um... the OP doesn't mention the word "Captain", and starts with these words: "Iowa party boss"

While I take exception to the word "Shillary", and the notion the OP overstates Hillary Clinton's role, I'm guessing a few words from Hillary and the State party chair would change her stance.

I would add that I think someone from the statewide apparatus having a license plate that says what hers does goes against the idea that before the primaries the Party should be neutral.

[roguevalley]

63. release the data, end the drama. hrc supporters sure seem comfy with conflict

Of interest

[rurallib]

48. It was not up to the campaign precinct captains to report votes

it was up to the person who chaired the caucus to report them to the Iowa Democratic Party.
The campaign captains may have reported to their campaigns but not to the party.

We (and yes I was a caucus chair) then mailed all paper work to IDP. Very possible some of that paper work is still in the mail.

[EdwardBernays]

15. It's not about the totals on the night

it's about releasing the raw data, is is controlled by a woman with a Hillary vanity plate...

Even the newspaper, which endorsed Hillary in Iowa, is calling on her to do that... and she won't...

[Perogie]

20. yes ignorance is bliss

ignoring the fact that Dr. McGuire is the state party chair in which all precincts report their totals to. She holds all the results (raw data)

The Des Moines Register, the state’s top newspaper, has called for a “complete audit” of the Democratic Party caucuses after some of its editorial board members reported “chaos” and irregularities at polling places.

Dr. McGuire is refusing to release the information. Why? If HRC won then releasing it would only confirm it.

I'm not sure if a caucus has a recount but most states have automatic recount when the vote difference is .25-.5% depending on state. All Sanders wants is to see the count totals that were sent to Dr. McGuire to make sure there wasn't an error in adding up the totals.

Who would not want to make sure the totals were correct when the difference between the two candidates was .2%
Why not just double check the totals and show everyone?

As the Des Moines Register states.....
“McGuire knows what’s at stake,” the Register wrote. “Her actions only confirm the suspicions, wild as they might be, of Sanders supporters.

[stevenleser]

32. That's pretty much what 95% of the Bernie crowd lives on. It's all they know.

It's why the few reasonable Sanders supporters here are horrified at their compatriots most of the time and don't post a lot.

As far as the Iowa Democratic Party "boss", he's supporting the only person who has above a 5% chance to win a general election against the Republicans. Sounds right to me.

[Luminous Animal]

39. That would be 'she'.

[stevenleser]

41. Nope, it wouldn't. And your ad-hominem attacks on me are a perfect example. nt

[rurallib]

51. if you are referring to Dr. Andy MacGuire, she is female

[stevenleser]

55. Nope, I'm not referring to her. nt

[rurallib]

89. ok - who is the Iowa democratic boss

since I live here I am quite curious.

[mhatrw]

90. Who are you referring to then? Andy Griffith?

just wondering

[jeff47]

53. So Doctors are all male? No wonder you're on Fox. (nt)

[stevenleser]

56. I'm not talking about any doctor. nt

[jeff47]

58. The IA Democratic party boss is a Doctor, and a woman.

So when you refer to the IA Democratic party boss, who exactly are you referring to?

I eagerly await your bullshit answer spinning it to be Obama.

[JRLeft]

81. Don't expect a real answer.

He won't give it to you, Hillary supporters do not care about conflicts at all.

[Luminous Animal]

42. Okey-doke

http://ppc.uiowa.edu/forkenbrock/speaker/andrea-mcguire

[cali]

60. Oh, please. You are so uninformed about this story that you are ignorant

of the gender of the person we're discussing.

Btw, your revisionist history of the IWR is shocking and appalling.

Shame on you.

[gregcrawford]

46. No one said she did have a role. That's not what the article is about.

[brooklynite]

52. Quoted from the OP: "Shillary needs to release both the vote totals....."

[gregcrawford]

57. Ah, yes. You're right...

... It is the State Democratic Party Chair who's got some 'splainin' to do.

[jonestonesusa]

49. Two simple questions -

Do you support keeping the vote total secret in a contested election, or not?

Do you think that if the Clinton camp joins the Sanders camp and asks that the vote totals be released in the interest of transparency, that the state chair would release the totals?

Those are the core questions.

[Ed Suspicious]

67. She supports, albeit uncomfortably, whatever they decide. (1 hour 7 minutes 18 seconds forward)

?t=1h7m18s

This is one of the most awkward moments of the night.

[jonestonesusa]

76. Thanks for the link - I appreciate it!

Lively debate - need to stop watching and go to work! It's great to see them one-on-one!!

[roguevalley]

61. I will check her on twitter and let her have it

Fb too

[Flying Phoenix]

3. IDP should be discredited

and give both Clinton and Bernie equal split. Blatant, biased support doesn't go a long way, McGuire.

Her career is over.

[Baitball Blogger]

6. Don't count on it.

She will probably get a soft place to land in a real estate business.

[VulgarPoet]

29. Or with Goldman-Sachs.

eom

[bigwillq]

17. Congrats on 100 posts!

[Baitball Blogger]

5. What kind of penalty can she face if found guilty of tampering with the results?

Election fraud?

[HooptieWagon]

13. I'm not sure.

Primaries are run by the States, so election law would govern. Caucuses are run by the parties, so I'm not sure about whether state laws would apply. At the very least she can be publicly shamed as a cheater and crook.

[Baitball Blogger]

25. These stalwarts have no shame.

[LiberalArkie]

80. I think the state primaries are run by the individual state party leaders. The Iowa Republican

caucus was run in a different method than the Iowa Democratic primary. So if the state Democratic wanted to not allow anyone to see the results I believe it is totally under their control.

It is often strange the level that local party officials will go to get someone elected.In South Arkansas back in the 60's ballot boxes from black precincts would be changed out so that a racist would be sheriff with a racist county judge. In Florida they just debated chads.

[HooptieWagon]

82. No, primary elections are run by state government elections officials.

Caucuses are run by the parties themselves.

[LiberalArkie]

84. That was what I was trying to say about the caucus. I had read that the Republican

caucus had different rules than the Democrats did, thus the state parties themselves made up the rules for them.

[HooptieWagon]

85. Yes, each party makes up their own caucus rules

And their own rules for awarding delegates. The number of delegates even differs. So I'm not sure that election fraud in a caucus is a state or federal crime.

[LiberalArkie]

86. It would have to be state, I think even in the general election it is state law. The

only federal election is the electoral college. Congress can pass laws mandating certain election methods I believe. A friend told me that in Iowa that the party could make a decision to award 2 electors for candidates with last names beginning with a-j and 1 for candidates k-z, it is their decision.

Looking at the Republican primaries it is almost like the big money people are testing to see if it is possible to actually spend enough money to buy a national election. It has been done at the local/state level but I don't think ever proved in a national.

[HooptieWagon]

88. Yes, I think you're right regarding election law.

But I think federal law might cover caucuses in the case of civil rights violations, like if there were caucus precincts that were barring minorities and such. Then the Federal Voting Rights Act would seem to apply even at a caucus run by a political party.

[PonyUp]

19. Well, she tampered with her own license plate, so she's used to tampering.

Clinton isn’t using her maiden name, Rodham, in this campaign, so McGuire has covered up the “R” with white paint, reported the Huffington Post.

[Baitball Blogger]

23. The state must respond to that.

At least.

[CoffeeCat]

66. That's bizarre and illegal

You can't "cover up" one of the letters or numbers on your license plate.

Your issued plate is how law enforcement identifies the car and the owner.

If this is true...what poor judgment.

[NowSam]

7. not a bumper sticker. ..Her plates.

That is fervent support. I find it hard to belive that someone with such obsession like fervor would be able to be unbiased. This conflict of interest suggests to me that the Iowa contest was rigged.

[HooptieWagon]

8. If nothing else, Sander's campaign...

...is exposing the systemic corruption and cheating by the corporatists controlling the Democratic Party. And presiding over this culture of corruption is DWS.

[BigBearJohn]

9. Gee, what a coincidence.

[AtomicKitten]

11. The Clintonsphere has no sense of propriety or sportsmanship.

[JudyM]

22. ^^this^^

[Thinkingabout]

12. Wow, so if anyone has a license plate with HRC 2016 is wrong.

Is this the conclusion of anyone who might have a bumper sticker, etc with any of Sanders campaign logo is wrong.

[Art_from_Ark]

18. This isn't just anyone with an HRC 2016 license plate

It is the person who was in charge of the freaking Democratic caucus.
You know, someone who is theoretically supposed to be neutral in such contests? Let the best candidate win, and all that?

[Thinkingabout]

68. Not every one who is working on this election are crooks, implying without evidence is wrong.

[Agschmid]

24. Blah blah blah...

Same shit different day.

It gets old but it goes on, and on, and on.

This will get so much worse, buckle up its going to be a long ride.

[PonyUp]

28. Wow, she tampered with her own license plate, so she's tampered before. n/t

[Gene Debs]

93. Stop being deliberately dense. Just stop it. It's an insult to everyone reading this.

[Thinkingabout]

94. I agree, complaining about a worker or anyone having a license plate with HRC 2016 is

deliberately dense. It should stoo.

[Gene Debs]

96. Congratulations. You are a child.

[zazen]

14. it's like Katherine Harris of Florida in 2000--abuse of power by unapologetic partisan

[JudyM]

27. And Blackwell, the SOS in Ohio who was also Shrub's Ohio Campaign chair. Disenfranchised blacks

in a big way.

[NowSam]

30. Exactly

Iowa 2016= Florida 2000.

[PonyUp]

16. Isn't covering up parts of your license plate illegal in Iowa? It is here.

Clinton isn’t using her maiden name, Rodham, in this campaign, so McGuire has covered up the “R” with white paint, reported the Huffington Post.

[Agschmid]

26. Someone should put out a warrant for her arrest.

[PonyUp]

34. Make her change her plate to 'BERNIN4U' n/t

[zazen]

36. wait--what? I've been slammed for calling out sexism against HRC but I don't see that here

If I'm missing something I apologize.

[PonyUp]

37. I think it's because they wrote 'Shillary'. n/t

[zazen]

38. oh--"shill" isn't "shrill"--I've called out "shrill" and "strident" and "squawking"

I couldn't believe some of the terms that were used to describe her a few weeks ago when she did seem, as one poster said, to have had some Red Bull while she was waiting to speak. I got slammed for calling out posters who used those words. I agree that they're inappropriate.

"Shill" however means to peddle your wares in an unethical way, right? I think that's pretty gender neutral.

[cali]

43. You are right. I misread it as 'Shrillary'. I'll delete it.

[oasis]

35. Hillary is not releasing a damn thing. Leave it to Bernie's

campaign to scour each page of the transcripts in search of something to take out of context and spin it into a "Romney 47%" attack.

[Kip Humphrey]

40. Some Hillarians (e.g., Dr. Andrea “Andy” McGuire) cause me to want to take a cleansing shower.

[Zorra]

44. I understand being passionate about a candidate, but when this passion

compels someone to lie, cheat, and steal for the candidate, they need to see a competent therapist.

[blackspade]

45. The fact that they won't release the raw counts is damning.

[HooptieWagon]

83. If there's nothing to hide,...

...then they have everything to gain by being transparent.

[Betty Karlson]

47. That's a little Debbie right there!

Like Debbie, she needs to go.

[billhicks76]

50. Careful

They don't like pointing out truth. Think 1984

[malthaussen]

54. Now, now, just because she supports Mrs Clinton, it does't mean she's unethical.

I'm sure she's motivated only by the highest principles of fair play.

-- Mal

[Helen Borg]

70. Every time there is a conflict of interest...

there is potential for fraud. Easy to clear that up, just release the goddamn data.

[TBF]

91. I've done a few searches - this woman

has worked in the insurance industry and wants to privatize Medicare.

[Sienna86]

59. Dr. McGuire is biased.

If that is in fact her plate.

[TBF]

92. She does fund raisers for Hillary in her home ...

the list goes on and on. Probably banking on a cabinet position in the new administration.

[SoapBox]

64. Typical political stench...

Just the tip of the iceberg...get ready to find this kind of biased, in the pocket CRAP in almost all states.

A good example of why we need this Political Revolution and a good housecleaning across America.

Go Bernie!

We REALLY need you.

[gordyfl]

65. Hillary's Narrow Victory

"On Monday, Hillary Clinton narrowly won in Iowa, with the final results showing that she beat Bernie Sanders by less than 1 percent. And you thought Bernie was mad at the 1 percent BEFORE." – Jimmy Fallon

"Hillary is facing criticism for declaring victory in Iowa prematurely. The final results weren't actually announced till around 1 p.m. on Tuesday, but she declared victory back in April of last year." –Jimmy Fallon

"This Sunday is Super Bowl 50, between the Denver Broncos and the Carolina Panthers. Of course it'll be weird when they do the coin toss before the big game, and the winner is still somehow Hillary Clinton." – Jimmy Fallon

[Helen Borg]

73. Why did Hillary declare victory so early?

Could it be because she knew her back was covered? Transparency is needed...

[Helen Borg]

69. You know, it's like having Wall Street self-regulate!

A joke. Sanders' people need to keep bringing this up!

[avaistheone1]

71. This is sounding like dejavu Katherine Harris.

[UglyGreed]

72. Does anyone know

who is responsible for caucus sites having the forms for new caucus participants and those who wish to change political parties? They ran out pretty early on in Iowa CNN reported that night.

[noamnety]

75. I thought bias was part of the job description.

The people running the primaries aren't supposed to be neutral.

Isn't that why we have superdelegates? As an insurance policy for the establishment to protect themselves against the will of the people?

[fbc]

77. I hope she doesn't turn them over.

Stretch out that "Establishment democrats are cheating to fraudulently hand Hillary Clinton the nomination" narrative as long as possible.

[left-of-center2012]

78. I bet he's friends with Debbie Wassrman Schultz n/t

[Hoppy]

79. I suspect the license plate was supposed to stand for Health Care Reform - 2016

but the clerk in the motor vehicle department transposed the letters. She could have complained but everyone knows Hillary is for health care reform so why bother?

[lumberjack_jeff]

95. She's working hard to confirm all of the worst stereotypes of Hillary and her camaign.

She, and consequently her campaign, literally doesn't know how to do honest, candid and forthright.