Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
22 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Want a Senate Lapel Pin Like Bernie's? (Original Post) MineralMan Feb 2016 OP
That was such a ridiculous post. Agschmid Feb 2016 #1
A lapel pin is easily duplicated. MineralMan Feb 2016 #3
an embedded RFID chip is not so easily duplicated, however jberryhill Feb 2016 #5
.... bigwillq Feb 2016 #14
Eh, NorthCarolina Feb 2016 #2
You can wear the pin on your T-shirt, too. MineralMan Feb 2016 #4
No room for it, NorthCarolina Feb 2016 #9
OK. MineralMan Feb 2016 #11
I've got a House of Representatives t-shirt. Fuddnik Feb 2016 #12
Cool! MineralMan Feb 2016 #13
Well I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express recently. nt cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #16
That's not a Senate pin like Bernie's Empowerer Feb 2016 #6
Of course it's not. And of course it won't do anything for anyone. MineralMan Feb 2016 #7
And you have missed my entire point Empowerer Feb 2016 #15
Of course he's part of the establishment. MineralMan Feb 2016 #17
Exactly - that's my point Empowerer Feb 2016 #18
Both of them spoke the truth. MineralMan Feb 2016 #19
I agree there's nothing inherently wrong with being " Establishment" but Bernie claims otherwise Empowerer Feb 2016 #22
Ehhhh, no thanks. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #8
I'm sure you can find those on Amazon, too. MineralMan Feb 2016 #10
Why buy one when you can buy 100 and treat all your friends NV Whino Feb 2016 #20
Heck, I don't even want one. MineralMan Feb 2016 #21

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
3. A lapel pin is easily duplicated.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:41 AM
Feb 2016

Being a US Senator isn't. It takes a lot to become a member of the Senate. Bernie has earned his pin, but it's not the pin that gets him respect. It's being elected multiple times to that house of Congress.

Wear it proudly, Bernie!

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
2. Eh,
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:40 AM
Feb 2016

I'd rather have a Bernie 2016 button on my lapel....that is, if I ever wore something that had a lapel.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
13. Cool!
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:54 AM
Feb 2016

I ate some Senate bean soup once. Made me fart. You can buy that on Amazon, too, but it won't make you a Senator any more than the pin will. It will probably make you fart, though.

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
6. That's not a Senate pin like Bernie's
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:46 AM
Feb 2016

That's a souvenir pin that they sell in the Senate gift shop to little kids and people who want to look important. But it won't get anyone anywhere in Washington. In fact, people in Washington just smile at the people who walk around with those cheap pins on.

Don't believe me? Put it on and then show up at the Capitol and try to stroll past the magnetometer or walk onto the Senate floor or go past airport security with it. Someone - probably with a badge and a drawn gun - will very quickly let you know there's a difference between your silly little souvenir and an official Senate pin.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
7. Of course it's not. And of course it won't do anything for anyone.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:49 AM
Feb 2016

That's obvious. My point is that it is not the pin that makes the Senator. Bernie earned his pin by being elected multiple times to the Senate. He should wear the pin with pride.

If I were a Senator, I'd pin one on, too. I'd never begrudge any Senator wearing that pin, and I'd step aside smartly to let him go in front of me anywhere. I'd do the same for any Senator, even a Republican.

The pin provides some entitlement, but it's an entitlement that is earned.

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
15. And you have missed my entire point
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:56 AM
Feb 2016

I am not questioning his wearing of the pin. But the pin IS the embodiment of entitlement. And that entitlement comes as a result of his being a member of the very Establishment he criticizes others for belonging to. It gives him special privileges and special access that others don't get. I don't have a problem with that at all. The pin is not the issue - it is just the symbol of the elite privilege that he has availed himself of - privilege that the average person could never obtain.

If I were a Senator, I'd wear the pin all of the time, too - I'd probably figure out a way to wear it on my pjs... But I also don't go around criticizing people for being in the Establishment just because they happen to be in certain jobs.

But when Sanders out of hand dismisses "mayors and governors and Senators and Members of Congress" who endorse Hillary because, by virtue of their political jobs, they are, in his view, members of the "Establishment," - and mind you, he didn't say they are Establishment because of any view or positions they've taken, but just because of their jobs - he leaves himself open to being called a hypocrite since he holds the same position these people do. If THEY are in the Establishment because they are part of the political elite, so is he.

Bernie Sanders has proven himself to be perfectly comfortable, not only being a part of that establishment, but also in taking full advantage of the privileges that members of that establishment receive, so he is not in a really good place to point his finger at them.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
17. Of course he's part of the establishment.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:58 AM
Feb 2016

Anyone who manages to get elected to Congress multiple times is. Comes with the job. Being part of the establishment is part of the job, even if you claim not to be. So?

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
18. Exactly - that's my point
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 11:02 AM
Feb 2016

Sanders decries and dismisses others for being part of the very "Establishment" that he is obviously a member of. That is hypocrisy.

Secretary Clinton: And I'm very proud and grateful to have the support of so many elected Vermonters and former officials. Two former governors, the current governor, the current other senator. I really appreciate that.

Senator Sanders: I will absolutely admit that Secretary Clinton has the ... support of far more governors, mayors, members of the House (of Representatives). She has the entire establishment or almost the entire establishment behind her."


That is all.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
19. Both of them spoke the truth.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 11:17 AM
Feb 2016

Nobody asked Bernie if he was part of the establishment. He is, of course. He is a career politician and one who has risen almost to the top of the establishment that is Congress. There's nothing at all wrong with that.

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
22. I agree there's nothing inherently wrong with being " Establishment" but Bernie claims otherwise
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 11:40 AM
Feb 2016

And consistently attacks Clinton, her endorsers and his colleagues for being .Establishment," solely by virtue of their job titles - when he's held the same jobs - and for longer than most.

I'm not calling him on being part of the Establishment. I'm calling him out for attacking his fellow Establishment members while pretending he's not one of them, when according to his own definition, he unequivocally is..

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
8. Ehhhh, no thanks.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:51 AM
Feb 2016

I'm still looking for a good quality either pentagram lapel pin or an all-seeing eye lapel pin. Cause, y'know. Illuminati confirmed.

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
20. Why buy one when you can buy 100 and treat all your friends
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 11:36 AM
Feb 2016

And the local homeless, and Fluffy and Rover, too.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Want a Senate Lapel Pin L...