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Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 12:31 PM Feb 2016

Clinton's campaign is about HER BEING something. Sanders' campaign is about US DOING something.

Clinton wants to be the first woman president. That is a laudable goal and a grossly overdue milestone that we, as a nation, must pass (in my heart, I hope it will be Elizabeth Warren who first crosses this threshold).

While Clinton's goal is important and commendable, it is a personal goal about Clinton herself, and it is a goal about what she wants to be.

Sanders' goal is also important and commendable, and it is a public goal for us to accomplish rather than a personal goal about Sanders, and his goal is about what he wants us and America to do.

Here is a contrast that highlights the distinction: Sanders would be the first Jewish president, which is also a laudable goal and an overdue milestone, but you never hear Sanders focusing on his desire to BE the first Jewish president -- his focus is relentlessly on US and what we can DO.

Ask yourself, what would Clinton say about the importance of Sanders' campaign as one which could result in the first Jewish president? The fact that this is not a big issue in the election is testament to the fact that Sanders' campaign places us at the center and does not place the candidate as the focus.

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Clinton's campaign is about HER BEING something. Sanders' campaign is about US DOING something. (Original Post) Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 OP
I & Me vs. We & Us. Kip Humphrey Feb 2016 #1
+1 daleanime Feb 2016 #6
She's top-down; He's bottom-up. Gregorian Feb 2016 #2
very succinct summary! Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #11
+1! tecelote Feb 2016 #14
Doing what?! revolution?! Where was this "revolution" when MFA needed to pass during ACA fight?! uponit7771 Feb 2016 #3
It was being called "fucking retarded" by the administration. jeff47 Feb 2016 #9
DU Rec. SixString Feb 2016 #4
+1 Jarqui Feb 2016 #7
I see it that way too Sanity Claws Feb 2016 #5
I don't think I could count the umber of times Clinton said "I" elias49 Feb 2016 #18
That's certainly one way our two candidates distinguish themselves 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #8
I think it is the defining characteristic of the 2016 campaign. Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #10
Nailed it. Aldo Leopold Feb 2016 #12
Well said! dorkzilla Feb 2016 #13
Like I've said in the past... Javaman Feb 2016 #15
And I think that is why he is receiving such enthusiastic support while she is struggling to liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #16
That's a good way of putting it. CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #17
Hillary is all about Hillary. Bernie is all about the 99%. mhatrw Feb 2016 #19
You make an excellent point, Attorney in Texas. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #20
knr nt slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #21
Thankyou. lindysalsagal Feb 2016 #22
Actually, it's just the opposite Empowerer Feb 2016 #23
So the "first female president" stuff was just her super PAC. That's not what Clinton wants to be. Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #24
I guess that's how some Sanders supporters see it. DanTex Feb 2016 #25
What are you gone to do with a Republican Congress? n/t doc03 Feb 2016 #26

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
3. Doing what?! revolution?! Where was this "revolution" when MFA needed to pass during ACA fight?!
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 12:40 PM
Feb 2016

... no where, cause Sanders is full of shit and hasn't proffered a plan to do anything different from what has been done.

Mitch doesn't care if 233423 trillion people were outside of his window... that wont move him

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
9. It was being called "fucking retarded" by the administration.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:18 PM
Feb 2016

Golly...wonder why that didn't yield much help....

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
18. I don't think I could count the umber of times Clinton said "I"
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 03:48 PM
Feb 2016

during the town hall and last night's debate.
Sanders seems to say "we" a lot more often.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
16. And I think that is why he is receiving such enthusiastic support while she is struggling to
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 03:39 PM
Feb 2016

garner enthusiasm. How many posts have I read that stated that people would hold their nose and vote for her in the GE if she wins the nomination? Votes in the GE she may get. Enthusiasm she won't get, and that is why Bernie has such a great chance at beating her in the primary.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
19. Hillary is all about Hillary. Bernie is all about the 99%.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 05:08 PM
Feb 2016

“To be is to do”—Aristotle
“To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre
“Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra
"Do 'dis doobie"—Bob Marley

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
23. Actually, it's just the opposite
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:17 AM
Feb 2016

The Sanders campaign spends most of its time talking about WHAT Clinton is vs. WHAT Bernie is and very little time talking about what Bernie's going to actually DO (other than start a revolution with no details about how this is going to be accomplished)

The Clinton campaign is focused on what she plans to do and how she plans to do it and spends very little time trying to characterize what Bernie IS.

You're welcome.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
25. I guess that's how some Sanders supporters see it.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:00 PM
Feb 2016

It's kind of strange, though. Clinton has laid out a strong progressive platform for the future of the nation. I guess if I really didn't like her, maybe I would see it as all being about her. And if I really didn't like Bernie, same for him.

But I like them both. They both want the best for the country, and at the end of the day aren't that far apart.

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