What Do Biden, Kerry and Clinton have in common?

[kennetha]

All voted for the Iraq resolution back in the day. All were nonetheless chosen by Barack Obama to be part of his team.

Sanders supporters seem to believe voting for that resolution is disqualifying.

Obama disagrees, even though he would have voted the other way.

Question: who should we trust? Obama or the Bernie-ites?


Guess?

[daleanime]

1. So we should value Iraq War votes?

Killing people and losing our young is a good thing? Wasting our budget and ruining our national reputation is a benefit?

[kennetha]

8. One vote 14 years ago.

Disqualifying for Clinton.

The entire basis of Sanders claim to be ready to be commander in chief.

Pure sillines.

[daleanime]

18. Your right, how could one vote matter.....(graphic content warning)

And you better believe that she would be willing to make that 'mistake' again.

[malthaussen]

2. Odd way to put it.

It's a matter of opinion, not of trust. You would seem to be implicitly offering some form of argument from authority, which only works among authoritarians, I'm afraid.

-- Mal

[PoliticAverse]

3. And the American People rejected all 3 in their past attempts to be President. n/t

[jillan]

14. Bingo!!!!

[dogman]

4. I trust myself.

The Iraq War was wrong. It so happens, Bernie got it right.

[kennetha]

9. you're alone in that I'm sure.

[dogman]

10. Surely, Bernie and I were the only ones who knew the Iraq War was wrong.

Funny I remember hundreds of thousands of protesters.

[kennetha]

11. I don't mean about the war

I mean about as to who to trust to handle foreign policy. Obama trusted Kerry, Biden, and Clinton. You apparently wouldn't trust any of them. I think he is in a much better position to judge than your or your pal Bernie.

[dogman]

16. Bernie's not my pal.

He's just right about the Iraq War. Obama picked them to carry out his policy, not theirs.

[angrychair]

5. Strawman

None of those people ran for president on the premise that they are a foreign policy expert and are the best one to make the best choices in foreign policy situations.

People get cabinet positions for a host of different reasons: Loyalty. Experience. Politics. Strategy. Or a combination of one or more of those traits.
I would imagine the IWR factored in little or nothing in comparison to some or all of those factors.

[kennetha]

7. Actually they all did. Kerry 2004. Biden 2008.

how old are you?

[emulatorloo]

12. Indeed they did

Both Kerry and Biden ran as foreign policy experts and they are foreign policy experts. I support Bernie but I get tired of the revisionist history, especially about Kerry.

[angrychair]

13. old enough

After I thought about it I should have taken that top part out I admit. Doesn't change the second paragraph, which you ignored.
They were chosen for those reasons and very little else.

[DefenseLawyer]

6. Everyone understands it was a political vote

It was accepted as fact at the time that anyone running for President would have to be pro-war. That's the #1 reason they all voted for it. Now it's pretty fucked up to play politics with the life and death of literally millions of people but that's what it was. But to people inside politics the vote just meant they were ambitious. And being ambitious isn't disqualifying in politics, it's assumed.

Of course that's not something they can say in public, but they all know that was reality.

[cali]

15. Pitiful Flamebait.

[beam me up scottie]

17. Strawman, false analogy. The choice of whom to trust is between Bernie and Hillary.

I trust Bernie, he voted against the Republican war your candidate supported.