2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBRAND NEW Boston Globe-Suffolk University New Hampshire Poll-Sanders 50% Clinton 41%
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/02/05/new-poll-shows-rubio-closing-trump/QpALGuCZ2gAivxLtHAaPAI/story.html
DCBob
(24,689 posts)The comeback girl!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)SheenaR
(2,052 posts)and what he says is gospel. So one has to beware of that C+ rated outlet over at UMass Lowell
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)and what he says is gospel. So one has to beware of that C+ rated outlet over at UMass Lowell
Nate Silver gave Suffolk University a B rating:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/pollster-ratings/
Nate Silver gave U Mass Lowell a C+ rating:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/pollster-ratings/
B > C+
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)You are my favorite HRC supporter. Excellent response. No snark. My fiancée knows of my affinity of your writing. But you have great responses that are always on topic and I appreciate that.
Cheers
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Go Bernie!
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)Maybe they were pretty on-the-mark after all.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)happens between now and then. I would not count on double digits.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)double would be a nice decisive win imo
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)We know a win is whoever wins as you and I have been told. So by 1 or by 20. We will celebrate our win accordingly
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)support flooding NH for her, and probably a tremendous get-out-the-vote operation, it will tighten up considerably. Never underestimate machine/institutional advantage.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)SheenaR
(2,052 posts)They laid the rules down for what is and what isn't a win. They would lose all credibility if they take a 9 or 10 point loss and say it's a win. For a win is whoever actually wins per countless threads here
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)you are absolutely correct.
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)angrychair
(8,699 posts)That being said, there was more specific information you OP leaves out from that article:
"Democrats seem to have made up their minds in this contest compared to Republican voters. While 33 percent of Republican said they could change their minds in the closing weekend, just 13 percent of Democrats said the same thing."
more damning combined with:
"However, 71 percent of Democrats said the same thing about Sanders (said they would be enthusiastic or satisfied him becoming the nominee) 68 percent of Democrats felt that way toward Clinton."
and this last tidbit:
"Forty-nine percent answered they were anti-Wall Street,
All in all, still very positive for Sanders. Please tell me this isn't a "single digit loss" is a win meme?
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)I mean it couldn't here at DU. Maybe in the MSM. But here at DU, a win has been defined as being with the most votes/delegates at the end of the night. Lest we forget the lessons of our Iowa defeat.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I will point out she cut a 31 point deficit in the U Mass poll to 15 in four days:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511147023
DrDan
(20,411 posts)obviously not a "win" until votes are actually counted
femmedem
(8,203 posts)from the article: "In the last Suffolk University poll, released before the Iowa caucuses, Sanders also led by 9 percent."
In other words, this is not a surge. This is no movement.
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)But, it will really stink Tuesday night if she can't win outright. Because every person here at DU now knows what a win IS and what it ISN'T. And we have the HRC supporters to thank for that! Bravo!
Bernie was never up 30 and the 20's were a bit extreme too, considering it went from 10 to 30 quite fast.
I think anywhere from this to 15 is about right.
But a win is a win. As you well know.
N.B. Anyone who is confident, sign up at one of those offshore gambling sites and you can get Hillary at 8 to 1 odds right now. My fiancée uses BetOnline, Bovada and 5Dimes for his sports habits. Put your money where your mouth is.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I am not interested in pecuniary gain or filthy lucre but if you want to give me 8-1 odds I will wager $25.00 on Hillary Clinton to win the New Hampshire primary and should I win I will donate my $200.00 winnings to DU which I will of course verify. If I lose I will send you $25.00, no strings attached.
Your word here is all I require.
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)But I am more than likely not going to accept your $25.
But I will send you your winnings if you prevail. Now it just got more interesting!!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)You can just donate it to DU, provide the proof here, with identifying personal information redacted, of course.
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)See, two sides coming together to raise money for DU
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)When I had more money I once started a thread where I said I would donate $25.00 to the poster who wrote the best anti-Bush essay.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)I think it may be closer than we think.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)is not?
Ok - Got it
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)DemocraticSocialist8
(396 posts)He only beats her by that much if there's a HUGE turnout among voters under 35. I think he has a double digit lead, but I don't think it's over 20 points. More like 10-15 points most likely.
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