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BRAND NEW Boston Globe-Suffolk University New Hampshire Poll-Sanders 50% Clinton 41% (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 OP
WOWSA! DCBob Feb 2016 #1
She cut a 30 point lead in half in four days? in the U Mass poll DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #3
Could we classify this as a surge? Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #2
I had to double check it because I couldn't believe it. But she is surging in the U Mass Poll DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #5
Now I was told Nate Silver is the 5th Evangelist SheenaR Feb 2016 #26
Res ipsa loquitur DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #30
I love you man SheenaR Feb 2016 #35
TY DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #38
Bernie's gonna have to work hard to beat the frontrunner. They chose her in 2008. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #4
Wow, she's moving up fast! MoonRiver Feb 2016 #6
What was that mock election by a College that ended with Bernie in a landslide? NorthCarolina Feb 2016 #7
Poll: Sanders Leads Clinton by 20 Points in New Hampshire restorefreedom Feb 2016 #8
If I had to predict, I'm going to say Bernie by 4 or 5%, unless something TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #9
i think it will be double, but not huge double. restorefreedom Feb 2016 #13
Wouldnt even matter SheenaR Feb 2016 #18
Considering that Clinton has Hasan and Shaheen and tons of other Dem party TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #23
we will, but any clinton loss less than 10 ish will be spun as a "win" for her nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #25
They can't here at DU SheenaR Feb 2016 #27
yes, considering how important her "win" of 0.02% was. restorefreedom Feb 2016 #29
My point exactly n/t SheenaR Feb 2016 #31
I am glad that reassures you./nt DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #10
why, yes it does, thank you! as does this one.. restorefreedom Feb 2016 #16
I am glad that reassures you, too./nt DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #20
thank you! have a great day, dsb! nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #21
You as well./nt DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #22
:) nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #24
We can wait to see if it is an outlier angrychair Feb 2016 #11
That meme does not exist SheenaR Feb 2016 #19
I think this is clearly a win DrDan Feb 2016 #12
It's one poll. We need confirmation. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #17
It was actually a comment on one side's liberal interpretation of that word DrDan Feb 2016 #43
Same lead he had in this particular poll prior to Iowa. femmedem Feb 2016 #14
Oh Cool SheenaR Feb 2016 #15
I am not interested in pecuniary gain or filthy lucre DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #28
I'm fine with that SheenaR Feb 2016 #34
The winnings go to DU, not to me. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #37
And do the same for me please! SheenaR Feb 2016 #39
I have to figure out how to buy someone a star. I did it a long time ago... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #41
A lot of the doors I'm knocking today are Clinton supporters. Agschmid Feb 2016 #32
I suspect Sanders will win but he was up 31% on Monday DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #33
Also many people I think are very sick of the knocking... Agschmid Feb 2016 #44
K&R. Sounds good, but I still think Sanders will win NH lunamagica Feb 2016 #36
This is a credible poll but the one showing that Bernie is now within 2 points of Hillary nationally jillan Feb 2016 #40
What other poll? Who said it isn't credible? Is there a national primary? /nt DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #42
The Poll Showing Sanders with a 31 point lead is likely an Outlier... DemocraticSocialist8 Feb 2016 #45
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #46

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
26. Now I was told Nate Silver is the 5th Evangelist
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:40 PM
Feb 2016

and what he says is gospel. So one has to beware of that C+ rated outlet over at UMass Lowell

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
30. Res ipsa loquitur
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:52 PM
Feb 2016
Now I was told Nate Silver is the 5th Evangelist
and what he says is gospel. So one has to beware of that C+ rated outlet over at UMass Lowell


Nate Silver gave Suffolk University a B rating:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/pollster-ratings/

Nate Silver gave U Mass Lowell a C+ rating:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/pollster-ratings/

B > C+


SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
35. I love you man
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:05 PM
Feb 2016

You are my favorite HRC supporter. Excellent response. No snark. My fiancée knows of my affinity of your writing. But you have great responses that are always on topic and I appreciate that.

Cheers

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
7. What was that mock election by a College that ended with Bernie in a landslide?
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:27 PM
Feb 2016

Maybe they were pretty on-the-mark after all.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
9. If I had to predict, I'm going to say Bernie by 4 or 5%, unless something
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:31 PM
Feb 2016

happens between now and then. I would not count on double digits.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
18. Wouldnt even matter
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:34 PM
Feb 2016

We know a win is whoever wins as you and I have been told. So by 1 or by 20. We will celebrate our win accordingly

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
23. Considering that Clinton has Hasan and Shaheen and tons of other Dem party
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:37 PM
Feb 2016

support flooding NH for her, and probably a tremendous get-out-the-vote operation, it will tighten up considerably. Never underestimate machine/institutional advantage.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
27. They can't here at DU
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:42 PM
Feb 2016

They laid the rules down for what is and what isn't a win. They would lose all credibility if they take a 9 or 10 point loss and say it's a win. For a win is whoever actually wins per countless threads here

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
11. We can wait to see if it is an outlier
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:32 PM
Feb 2016

That being said, there was more specific information you OP leaves out from that article:

"Democrats seem to have made up their minds in this contest compared to Republican voters. While 33 percent of Republican said they could change their minds in the closing weekend, just 13 percent of Democrats said the same thing."

more damning combined with:

"However, 71 percent of Democrats said the same thing about Sanders (said they would be “enthusiastic” or “satisfied” him becoming the nominee) 68 percent of Democrats felt that way toward Clinton."

and this last tidbit:

"Forty-nine percent answered they were “anti-Wall Street,”

All in all, still very positive for Sanders. Please tell me this isn't a "single digit loss" is a win meme?

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
19. That meme does not exist
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:35 PM
Feb 2016

I mean it couldn't here at DU. Maybe in the MSM. But here at DU, a win has been defined as being with the most votes/delegates at the end of the night. Lest we forget the lessons of our Iowa defeat.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
43. It was actually a comment on one side's liberal interpretation of that word
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:20 PM
Feb 2016

obviously not a "win" until votes are actually counted

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
14. Same lead he had in this particular poll prior to Iowa.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:33 PM
Feb 2016

from the article: "In the last Suffolk University poll, released before the Iowa caucuses, Sanders also led by 9 percent."

In other words, this is not a surge. This is no movement.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
15. Oh Cool
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:33 PM
Feb 2016

But, it will really stink Tuesday night if she can't win outright. Because every person here at DU now knows what a win IS and what it ISN'T. And we have the HRC supporters to thank for that! Bravo!

Bernie was never up 30 and the 20's were a bit extreme too, considering it went from 10 to 30 quite fast.


I think anywhere from this to 15 is about right.

But a win is a win. As you well know.

N.B. Anyone who is confident, sign up at one of those offshore gambling sites and you can get Hillary at 8 to 1 odds right now. My fiancée uses BetOnline, Bovada and 5Dimes for his sports habits. Put your money where your mouth is.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
28. I am not interested in pecuniary gain or filthy lucre
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:44 PM
Feb 2016
N.B. Anyone who is confident, sign up at one of those offshore gambling sites and you can get Hillary at 8 to 1 odds right now. My fiancée uses BetOnline, Bovada and 5Dimes for his sports habits. Put your money where your mouth is




I am not interested in pecuniary gain or filthy lucre but if you want to give me 8-1 odds I will wager $25.00 on Hillary Clinton to win the New Hampshire primary and should I win I will donate my $200.00 winnings to DU which I will of course verify. If I lose I will send you $25.00, no strings attached.


Your word here is all I require.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
34. I'm fine with that
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:03 PM
Feb 2016

But I am more than likely not going to accept your $25.

But I will send you your winnings if you prevail. Now it just got more interesting!!

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
37. The winnings go to DU, not to me.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:05 PM
Feb 2016

You can just donate it to DU, provide the proof here, with identifying personal information redacted, of course.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
41. I have to figure out how to buy someone a star. I did it a long time ago...
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:10 PM
Feb 2016

When I had more money I once started a thread where I said I would donate $25.00 to the poster who wrote the best anti-Bush essay.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
40. This is a credible poll but the one showing that Bernie is now within 2 points of Hillary nationally
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:08 PM
Feb 2016

is not?

Ok - Got it

45. The Poll Showing Sanders with a 31 point lead is likely an Outlier...
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:55 PM
Feb 2016

He only beats her by that much if there's a HUGE turnout among voters under 35. I think he has a double digit lead, but I don't think it's over 20 points. More like 10-15 points most likely.

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