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Eugene

(61,899 posts)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 04:42 PM Feb 2016

Iowa Democratic party altered precinct's caucus results during chaotic night

Source: The Guardian

Iowa Democratic party altered precinct's caucus results during chaotic night

Ben Jacobs in Manchester, New Hampshire
Friday 5 February 2016 20.07 GMT

In the Iowa Democratic party’s chaotic attempt to report caucus results on Monday night, the results in at least one precinct were unilaterally changed by the party as it attempted to deal with the culmination of a rushed and imperfect process overseeing the first-in-the-nation nominating contest.

In Grinnell Ward 1, the precinct where elite liberal arts college Grinnell College is located, 19 delegates were awarded to Bernie Sanders and seven were awarded to Hillary Clinton on caucus night. However, the Iowa Democratic party decided to shift one delegate from Sanders to Clinton on the night and did not notify precinct chair J Pablo Silva that they had done so. Silva only discovered that this happened the next day, when checking the precinct results in other parts of the county.

The shift of one delegate at a county convention level would not have significantly affected the ultimate outcome of the caucus, but rather, it raises questions aboutthe Iowa Democratic party’s management of caucus night.

The Iowa Democratic party had long been plagued with organizational issues around the caucus and failed to find hundreds of needed volunteers to oversee individual precinct caucuses just over a week before Monday. The result was a disorganized process that lent itself to chaos and conspiracy theories. Although Andy McGuire, the chair of the Iowa Democratic party, is a longtime Clinton supporter whose license plate once read HRC 2016, no one familiar with the issue has accused the error of being a partisan process. Instead, they have blamed simple mismanagement.

The party issued a statement early on Tuesday, detailing final delegate numbers that had Clinton winning the caucuses. However, the statement came shortly after party officials gave the impression to the Sanders campaign that no statement with results would be issued at all that night.

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Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/05/iowa-democratic-party-altered-precinct-caucus-results-clinton-sanders
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Iowa Democratic party altered precinct's caucus results during chaotic night (Original Post) Eugene Feb 2016 OP
It really challenges the inefficiencies of a caucus metroins Feb 2016 #1
Andy McGuire is a piece of work. cali Feb 2016 #2
What the fuck? How much of this happened in how many precincts? TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #3
It's all a case of "simple mismanagement" apparently. arcane1 Feb 2016 #8
In any vote where he is against a Republican or Clinton, Bernie's victory margin FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #4
Absolutely. CentralMass Feb 2016 #6
What was their reason for monkeying with delegates? Vinca Feb 2016 #5
They needed to get a certainew outcome. CentralMass Feb 2016 #7
in nh it is illegal to examine the ballots questionseverything Feb 2016 #10
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #9

metroins

(2,550 posts)
1. It really challenges the inefficiencies of a caucus
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 04:45 PM
Feb 2016

You'd think the people of Iowa would evolve to a more stable system by now.

Just because that's the way it's been done for 40 years doesn't mean it should continue on.

Look at how it screwed santorum 4 years ago.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
3. What the fuck? How much of this happened in how many precincts?
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 04:49 PM
Feb 2016

I saw that video, BTW. What is the explanation for shifting a delegate in the middle of the night?

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
8. It's all a case of "simple mismanagement" apparently.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 04:55 PM
Feb 2016

Such an innocent-sounding term, with no sense of agency or direction at all. I'm sure focus groups would agree.

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
4. In any vote where he is against a Republican or Clinton, Bernie's victory margin
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 04:50 PM
Feb 2016

must exceed the ratfucking margin

Vinca

(50,273 posts)
5. What was their reason for monkeying with delegates?
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 04:53 PM
Feb 2016

It doesn't sound like these people have a clue what they're doing. The Iowa Democrats need to go to a simple paper ballot before the next primary. I assume Iowa Democrats are capable of counting paper ballots, but in case they aren't there would at least be a way to do a recount.

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