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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary: Banks are not primarily to blame. Not by a long shot.
The latest Democratic debate found Hillary Clinton in a defensive crouch about her Wall Street ties and making iffy claims about that longtime relationship. Rival Bernie Sanders offered a fumbling account of a campaign ad that boasted of endorsements that were bogus.
A look at some of their assertions, and how they compare with the facts:
CLINTON: "I went to Wall Street before the crash. I was the one saying you're going to wreck the economy because of these shenanigans with mortgages. I called to end the carried-interest loophole that hedge fund managers enjoy."
THE FACTS: Clinton was not nearly as tough-talking with Wall Street as she suggested in that remark and in her previous characterizations of her December 2007 speech. In a video of the speech obtained by ProPublica, she thanked her "wonderful donors" in the audience, said banks were not the actors primarily to blame for the emerging crisis, "not by a long shot," and praised Wall Street for its contribution to the economy.
At the same time, she said Wall Street had a hand in worsening the crisis and called for voluntary steps on foreclosures and subprime mortgages.
Altogether, she delivered a mixed message, not the unalloyed lecture that she portrayed Thursday night or in an earlier debate, when she claimed the speech's basic message to Wall Street was: "Cut it out."
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/ap-fact-check-dems-hampshire-36730378
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Hillary: Banks are not primarily to blame. Not by a long shot. (Original Post)
cali
Feb 2016
OP
Did she arrive at the venue under sniper fire? That would make the story better
Press Virginia
Feb 2016
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Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)1. Did she arrive at the venue under sniper fire? That would make the story better
and more credible
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)2. Oh dear.
I'm sure he non-transcribed speeches are similar.
Who were the actors primarily to blame for the crisis?
cali
(114,904 posts)4. The borrowers. They couldn't afford those mortgages.
redwitch
(14,944 posts)3. Shenanigans. Oy. nt
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)6. we know who is to blame. The fiendish Berniebro, that's who!
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)7. Shenanigans? Try "criminal fraud" and outright theft. Nt