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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Battles Bernie Sanders, Chick Magnet
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/07/opinion/sunday/hillary-battles-bernie-sanders-chick-magnet.htmlHILLARY CLINTON first grabbed the national spotlight 47 years ago as an idealistic young feminist, chiding the paternalistic establishment in her Wellesley commencement speech.
So its passing strange to watch her here, getting rebuffed by young women who believe that she lacks idealism, that she overplays her feminist hand and that she is the paternalistic establishment.
Bernie Sanders may be a dead ringer for Larry David, but Hillary is running the Curb Your Enthusiasm campaign. She cant fire up young voters by dwelling on what cant be done in Washington and by explaining that shes more prose than poetry.
Shes traveling around New Hampshire with a former president who could easily layer in some poetry, and a handful of specific snappy plans for the future, to her thicket of substance and stack of white papers. But somehow, Hill and Bill campaign side by side without achieving synergy.
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Hillary Battles Bernie Sanders, Chick Magnet (Original Post)
Matariki
Feb 2016
OP
Dowd has a long history of attacking Democrats, from Gore to Obama and her favorite target- Hillary.
Metric System
Feb 2016
#6
Metric System
(6,048 posts)1. Maureen Fucking Dowd.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)5. That's the definition
of 'ad fucking hominem'
What's your issue with Maureen Dowd?
Metric System
(6,048 posts)6. Dowd has a long history of attacking Democrats, from Gore to Obama and her favorite target- Hillary.
She is obsessed with tearing down Hillary and she has a record going back 20 years of it.
senz
(11,945 posts)2. Mo Dowd is a good writer with a very sharp pen for those she dislikes.
I couldn't stand her calling Obama "Barry" but have generally agreed with her assessment of Hillary.
She observes,
While she was giving three speeches to Goldman Sachs for $675,000, her party was changing. As the economy slowly healed, Democrats were seething with anger over the big banks that never got punished for wrecking the economy and the reckless billionaires who are still living large. A tone-deaf Hillary was there sucking at the teat and that rubs people the wrong way.
Comments at the NYTimes are always interesting. Rima Rigas, one of the best commenters, notes,
Gloria Steinem is trending on social media, and not in a good way. She gave Bill Maher an interview in which she made disparaging comments about millenial females who are voting for Bernie. Her explanation of the phenomenon? The boys are doing it.
If that wasn't disappointing enough, today, Madeline Albright, stumping for Hillary, said that there is a special place in hell for women who don't help each other. Hillary laughed and clapped, visibly appreciatively.
What is it about the Clintons that brings out the very worst in people? Resorting to the equivalent of political slut-shaming is not a good look for male or female candidates any more than whining about being victimized on the basis of one's gender is, when taking the heat for greedy and unethical behaviors. This is not feminism. These are not feminist values. These are not humanist values. This is neoliberalism masquerading as feminism and precisely the reason why our wise millenials are not with Hillary.
Bernie isn't a chick magnet. He's a moral rectitude magnet and that, I guess, is the sexiest attribute any human can have.
If that wasn't disappointing enough, today, Madeline Albright, stumping for Hillary, said that there is a special place in hell for women who don't help each other. Hillary laughed and clapped, visibly appreciatively.
What is it about the Clintons that brings out the very worst in people? Resorting to the equivalent of political slut-shaming is not a good look for male or female candidates any more than whining about being victimized on the basis of one's gender is, when taking the heat for greedy and unethical behaviors. This is not feminism. These are not feminist values. These are not humanist values. This is neoliberalism masquerading as feminism and precisely the reason why our wise millenials are not with Hillary.
Bernie isn't a chick magnet. He's a moral rectitude magnet and that, I guess, is the sexiest attribute any human can have.
Would have to agree with those last two paragraphs.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)4. Dowd's assessment of Cheney and Bush was spot on too.
And as for Clinton: her time - the era of Third Way or the Highway - has come and gone, and she needs to realise it. Dowd is polite by not (yet) pointing that out sharply.
artislife
(9,497 posts)3. She had some helpful hints for h
But they probably won't read it anyway.
Which is good.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)7. Really bad title.
(I know it's hers, not yours). But yuck.