2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTwo big surprises from Democratic Primary exit polls...
By ABC NEWS ANALYSIS DESK Feb 9, 2016, 9:46 PM ETSanders won women by 53-46 percent, as well as prevailing far more widely among men, 65-34 percent. Sixty-nine percent of women under 45 backed Sanders (including 82 percent of those under 30 women), while Clinton won women 45 and older by 56-43 percent.
By ABC NEWS ANALYSIS DESK Feb 9, 2016, 9:46 PM ET
Nonwhites roughly divided, 52-48 percent, Clinton-Sanders.
DemocraticSocialist8
(396 posts)There hasn't been a Nevada poll since the end of December and before that one it had been two months going back to October. With the reaction from the White House and the Clinton campaign pre-New Hampshire...I think we can assume it's tightened up there. The Real Clear Politics average right now is 19.5 for Clinton, but that's based off of some old polls. If Sanders can win in Nevada...all bets are off. South Carolina would definitely be up for grabs. The statements on MSNBC about how Clinton never goes up in the polling and historically stays level and drops is huge news because I never knew that.
jfern
(5,204 posts)The good pollsters are too scared of being horribly wrong, so we we might just get junk polls from Gravis or Overtime.
KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)Response to berniepdx420 (Original post)
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Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Makes me happier 'n a possum in a pea patch..
berniepdx420
(1,784 posts)outlining... don't ya think ? The system is rigged... Duh .. no shit...
Your point about Hillary having more delegates just aides in illustrating and illuminating the struggle.... Bernie is for the People (the voters) Hillary is for the Establishment (super delegates)
the Political Revolution is picking up steam... jump aboard.....
sheshe2
(83,861 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts).
If the super delegates go too far against the popular vote, "Political Legitimacy" comes into question.
The act of requesting or demanding "loyalty oaths" plays right into the image of a rigged system.
(Oh, with the "New Yorker atheist"... there is an allusion to "Brooklyn Jew." Why not just write it too?)
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SoLeftIAmRight
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TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)her eyes showed fear - body posture slumped and her movements were mechanical and flailing - her voice was hollow and lost
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)They aren't committed, they can change their minds. It's very unlikely they'll overturn the pledged delegates elected by voters. If they do, there will be another Chicago '68. Even if the DNC was considering going scorched earth on the presidential nomination, there's still the down ticket races, where most of the superdelegates hold office. A civil war in August would cause a bloodbath in November.
http://www.history.com/topics/1960s/videos/violence-batters-1968-democratic-convention
jfern
(5,204 posts)Hillary got the support of some superdelegates who will switch the moment they see the writing on the wall.
artislife
(9,497 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)In fact, a couple of Hillary supporters I know said they'd never actually heard Bernie speak until recently and it wasn't what they were told by other Hillary supporters. They were telling them Bernie was spending the whole time bashing Hillary to the cheers of a stadium full of misogynists.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)LISTEN to instead of TELLING them, as women were told, that we all OWE our votes to one candidate. If that candidate had actually LISTENED she would not have been surprised that her negative campaigning, along with her 'incremental, pragmatic, that word they think means something, caused he landslide loss in NH and Bernie and his fantastic supporters have only just begun.
Maybe this will help you, your post is dismissive of millions of Americans. It is talking DOWN to people, Bernie talks TO people, as equals.
We were told last May that Bernie would be gone by Summer. We laughed then as it as clear those in power have no clue what the people want. They are so out of touch as was evident tonight
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)Chakab
(1,727 posts)and mass incarceration help black people?
That's not even mentioning all of the times that the Clintons have shit on the black community to pander to other demographic groups when it suited them.
BTW she didn't do a fucking thing to "win" those super delegates. They're party insiders who committed their support to her nearly a year before any votes were cast. How anybody can go around bragging about that anti-democratic nonsense is beyond me.
mdbl
(4,973 posts)That count can change. Sounds like an election system that needs to be changed also.
mdbl
(4,973 posts)I don't know many rednecks that like the Clintons.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)I guess one can purchase anything these days, especially elections.
angrychair
(8,732 posts)Showing with the young, females and males as he has in Iowa and now New Hampshire and splits the black vote, he wins South Carolina.
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)There were actually voters torn between Trump and Bernie which is batshit crazy.
They are so different but this is the mentality of a part of the American electorate that votes.
I will vote for the eventual Dem Candidate but I truly believe that Clinton will not fare well in the general because she really isn't
creating any excitement among people. Bernie is.