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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:48 PM Feb 2016

Wow! David Brock's Blue Nation slamming Bernie supporters over John Lewis. Hateful stuff there.

I have never been in a campaign in which the supporters of a candidate were treated with such disregard and disdain.

It wasn't pleasant being a Deaniac, but this is far worse.

I do not think John Lewis should have said what he did about not remembering Bernie. It made it sound like he was questioning his honesty. He should have just endorsed Hillary.

Here's the page from David Brock's newly acquired Blue Nation Review. Don't forget to read the comments. Some are almost threats.

NEW LOW: Civil Rights Legend John Lewis Getting Trolled by Bernie Supporters


By Leela Daou
February 11, 2016
8643 Shares

Positively mind-numbing to see anyone trying to question the integrity or judgment of a giant like Rep. John Lewis. See the instant outcry below (and we’ve included a few heinous examples to illustrate how low these trolls will go).

Jose Antonio Vargas

@joseiswriting

You best not come for John Lewis. Regardless of whom u support (#feelthebern or #ImWithHer) do not come for the walking hero.
12:15 PM - 11 Feb 2016

230 230 Retweets
293

omar durazo @duraznomar

whew, if ppl try to come for john lewis #onhere…guys, there’s a chance today could be really unpleasant.
12:59 PM - 11 Feb 2016

mani Gandy
?@AngryBlackLady

John Lewis who got his ass beat in the 60s by cops is establishment bc he's in Congress, but Sanders who's also in Congress isn't?
The jig.



I will not quote some of the others.

I am sad to see the racism and smears about Bernie's honesty that are going on right now.

There is no need for it.



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Wow! David Brock's Blue Nation slamming Bernie supporters over John Lewis. Hateful stuff there. (Original Post) madfloridian Feb 2016 OP
I am watching people harass Lewis right now on facebook bravenak Feb 2016 #1
It is remarkable that they (anti Lewis folks) would react at all. White privilege explains that. randys1 Feb 2016 #4
Shameful bravenak Feb 2016 #8
Anti-Lewis? White privilege? Turning this into racism is just tragic. madfloridian Feb 2016 #49
Yes. White privilege. nt msanthrope Feb 2016 #106
Crying here. There was no need for this either. sheshe2 Feb 2016 #117
I agree John Lewis has a great civil rights history. I never thought otherwise. madfloridian Feb 2016 #118
It's white privilege to disagree with a black politician? Gee. NaturalHigh Feb 2016 #125
This isn't the first time, either Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #25
I could not believe that person did that. Very rude. bravenak Feb 2016 #27
He was denigrated much worse when he backed Hillary over Obama. JRLeft Feb 2016 #52
Go take a look at his page before you say that so soon bravenak Feb 2016 #57
I did I'm telling you I remember that Shit. I'm not justifying that Shit because it's JRLeft Feb 2016 #75
It just so many more people this time bravenak Feb 2016 #78
The sad thing is a lot of them are black. JRLeft Feb 2016 #86
Most aint tho bravenak Feb 2016 #87
Oh I know, but on twitter it's worse. JRLeft Feb 2016 #90
Oh my god i am watching that too i will not comment on twitter bravenak Feb 2016 #91
This is election has fractured the party, I don't think the party will recover there's so JRLeft Feb 2016 #96
Trump is doing the same to them bravenak Feb 2016 #99
Trump is comedy gold. JRLeft Feb 2016 #100
Damn straight he is bravenak Feb 2016 #102
His debates are fuckin hilarious. JRLeft Feb 2016 #103
I only watch for him bravenak Feb 2016 #104
See post 117...the rest is there sheshe2 Feb 2016 #119
Poor John Lewis. He chose to step in it. oh well. nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #33
Yes. Then i guess the racial slurs are no biggie bravenak Feb 2016 #47
The things said about this American hero are beyond contempt mcar Feb 2016 #71
Depressing too bravenak Feb 2016 #73
Me too brave mcar Feb 2016 #77
Not even mad this time bravenak Feb 2016 #80
Wait, so let me understand, you are slamming the above comments and people? randys1 Feb 2016 #2
Seems as if that is the case. boston bean Feb 2016 #6
I think calling John Lewis a house n.... was much worse and deserved a response. boston bean Feb 2016 #3
Nobody called him that. hedda_foil Feb 2016 #15
no? I saw it myself, on the twitter page. boston bean Feb 2016 #16
Are you trying to stir up race hatred? senz Feb 2016 #34
No I am not trying to stir up race hatred. boston bean Feb 2016 #41
No one on DU said anything like that. senz Feb 2016 #51
Umm it was pertinent to the OP. boston bean Feb 2016 #56
Regardless, it's vague inflammatory hearsay. senz Feb 2016 #66
I call it the ugly truth. boston bean Feb 2016 #67
Not around here. Doesn't happen around here senz Feb 2016 #79
The OP brought it here and I set the record straight. boston bean Feb 2016 #84
I saw it too mcar Feb 2016 #74
Ayup. boston bean Feb 2016 #76
That is offensive and deserved a response. But not from fucking slime ball Brock. morningfog Feb 2016 #97
It's really getting childish all this tit for tat. David Brock needs to back off... madfloridian Feb 2016 #5
why are you responding to yourself in a comment? boston bean Feb 2016 #7
Right? bravenak Feb 2016 #9
she's adding further comment to her OP for chrissake. m-lekktor Feb 2016 #29
Thank you. I was ignoring it. Yes, I was adding to. madfloridian Feb 2016 #72
Maybe she does not see that it is the Sanders Supporters doing the vile hits on Lewis. riversedge Feb 2016 #46
So sad to see you actually say that. madfloridian Feb 2016 #83
This wouldn't be an ugly, baseless accusation intended as flame bait, now would it? senz Feb 2016 #95
mad, that's what he's paid for. winter is coming Feb 2016 #14
I have a sneaking suspicion that's what a few are paid for here as well. Broward Feb 2016 #22
As SoS, she spent thousands of TAXPAYER dollars buying fake Facebook and Twitter followers. arcane1 Feb 2016 #48
Absolutely, there are a lot of ways to spend that money. Broward Feb 2016 #54
Wonder If Enough People Will Connect The Dots And Not ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #69
Typical Rovian behavior sarge43 Feb 2016 #10
This right here is the final straw for me. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #11
Questioning Bernie's honesty about his civil rights activity.... madfloridian Feb 2016 #12
Exactly. Every article described Lewis' remarks as an attack or a slam. arcane1 Feb 2016 #42
Unfortunately there are small minded people ShrimpPoboy Feb 2016 #127
I feel like this is a battle we can't win, and the faster we can change the subject the better Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #13
This battle is lost. Hillary's campaign has used it to her advantage I fear. madfloridian Feb 2016 #17
I'm saddened and stunned by the whole thing. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #21
Oh, well, then. madfloridian Feb 2016 #26
I really don't know. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #36
.. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #45
This whole Clinton smear job on Sanders supporters should be brought to the campaign's attention. nt Chezboo Feb 2016 #116
It won't be too her advantage if she gets the nomination jfern Feb 2016 #121
I think you're probably right. cui bono Feb 2016 #19
Then I will back off so as not to hurt Bernie's campaign. madfloridian Feb 2016 #30
It's not your fault. It's a situation that's destined for problems since it is a civil rights leader cui bono Feb 2016 #53
you don't win their game by playing or by forfeiting,but by pointing out they're playing one MisterP Feb 2016 #115
The Southern caucuses and primaries are just getting started. Hillary will use this and many other liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #23
Don't despair yet. This is the kitchen sink. Nyan Feb 2016 #68
You are so right, "Mad" - this is much dirtier than the Dean campaign.... Peregrine Took Feb 2016 #18
But the terrible lies against Kerry's honorable service at least came from the right wing. madfloridian Feb 2016 #20
It is beyond sad. Punkingal Feb 2016 #37
What about the timing of this, just after NH, Iowa before that and big endorsements appalachiablue Feb 2016 #105
When it comes to foreign policy, Hillary & friends John Poet Feb 2016 #55
If you think about it. the role of people like Brock FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #24
Would you expect anything else from the Hillary campaign's slime wing? morningfog Feb 2016 #28
David Brock is the scum of the earth. For Clinton...you're judged by the company you keep. in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #31
So wouldn't all Bernie need to do to respond to this Autumn Colors Feb 2016 #32
The Super-PAC that coordinates directly with the Clinton campaign? Starting to look a bit arranged. arcane1 Feb 2016 #35
That's Correct the Record...that David Brock's as well. madfloridian Feb 2016 #40
Thanks for the clarification. Same asshole, different shit n/t arcane1 Feb 2016 #50
She also has Priorities USA a super Pac, but I think Brock did not feel welcome there. madfloridian Feb 2016 #60
The vile came from Sanders supporters hitting on John Lewis Shameful riversedge Feb 2016 #38
I think you meant "bile". n/t Aerows Feb 2016 #43
No-Vocabulary..... riversedge Feb 2016 #63
Okay :) Aerows Feb 2016 #70
Just a bit of grammar...you used it as a noun..."the vile"...should have been "the vile (something)" libdem4life Feb 2016 #112
I don't believe a bit of it. Aerows Feb 2016 #39
Exactly. senz Feb 2016 #59
their "examples" of people supposedly trolling Lewis appear to me magical thyme Feb 2016 #44
"its Bernies job to shut this down. Let's see if he has the integrity to do it." Last riversedge Feb 2016 #58
Yep...Bernie folks have to shut up and sit down while the rest continue. madfloridian Feb 2016 #65
Oh where have we seen THIS game before?? senz Feb 2016 #92
It is typical divorce lawyer tactics...throw out garbage...then make a killing off of the drama. libdem4life Feb 2016 #113
Poor Bernie supporters. tarheelsunc Feb 2016 #61
+1000 mcar Feb 2016 #82
Leave it to the Clintonian machine to use a civil rights icon as a political pawn. jillan Feb 2016 #62
this is sad, Brock, and hrc using race bating. juxtaposed Feb 2016 #64
Brock is pond scum. n/t Skwmom Feb 2016 #81
lol -- maybe Hill wants to accuse Bernie's supporters of attacking John Lewis now? senz Feb 2016 #85
So it's David Brock's/HRC's fault ... NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #88
Umm hmm bravenak Feb 2016 #94
Hey it was Hillary's fault when the Sanders campaign tried to steal her data too Number23 Feb 2016 #120
Well, apparently that's what we're all supposed to do ... NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #123
Those "supporters" include a Conservative Breitbart writer who called Sanders a "gamma male" and a Chathamization Feb 2016 #89
Brock reacted too quickly for this not to have been planned. He tipped his hand. nt Bonobo Feb 2016 #93
I agree. Very organized madfloridian Feb 2016 #108
First the gender card, then the race card. senz Feb 2016 #98
Bernie fans must be scared workinclasszero Feb 2016 #101
You're outraged that people find it unacceptable to smear a Civil Rights hero? BainsBane Feb 2016 #107
Hello fellow Deaniac.... GumboYaYa Feb 2016 #109
GumboYaYA so good to see you. Have I been missing your posts? madfloridian Feb 2016 #111
Do you remember this post from 2004? madfloridian Feb 2016 #114
I do remember that.... GumboYaYa Feb 2016 #124
Well, you guys have done a lot. madfloridian Feb 2016 #130
I find it totally disgusting and unforgivable. Just as I did with all the smears she used on Obama. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #110
Of course David Brock was a perfect saint when he slimed Anita Hill jfern Feb 2016 #122
I think they hung Lewis out as bait. Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #126
+1 nt bunnies Feb 2016 #129
The obama Boys redux argument again Larkspur Feb 2016 #128
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
1. I am watching people harass Lewis right now on facebook
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:49 PM
Feb 2016

Imani Gandy is very well known and also very knowledgeable. This is bad for sanders.

sheshe2

(83,833 posts)
117. Crying here. There was no need for this either.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 02:35 AM
Feb 2016

This image tortures me.

Indeed, Tragic!

Have you ever seen people treated this way?..................

I have never been in a campaign in which the supporters of a candidate were treated with such disregard and disdain.





John had other things on his mind back then.

I do not think John Lewis should have said what he did about not remembering Bernie. It made it sound like he was questioning his honesty. He should have just endorsed Hillary.




?w=232&h=300

Anti-Lewis? White privilege? Turning this into racism is just tragic.


Amelia Boynton Robinson




madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
118. I agree John Lewis has a great civil rights history. I never thought otherwise.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 02:39 AM
Feb 2016

I just don't understand why he would make it sound like Bernie's not honest when Bernie never claimed to be in the South during this time. He only said he was in DC at the march.

Why would Lewis do this? He's a respected man, why treat Bernie's efforts as less?

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
125. It's white privilege to disagree with a black politician? Gee.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:43 AM
Feb 2016

Actually, I thought that was everyone's right, not privilege.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
25. This isn't the first time, either
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:04 PM
Feb 2016

They slammed his FB page when his endorsement was announced. It was quite the scene.

Some folks even had the gall to call his office to harass.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
27. I could not believe that person did that. Very rude.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:05 PM
Feb 2016

This time the abuse on facebook is worse to me. Sad.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
75. I did I'm telling you I remember that Shit. I'm not justifying that Shit because it's
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:30 PM
Feb 2016

it, the Shit is awful.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
78. It just so many more people this time
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:32 PM
Feb 2016

It will be another somebody tomorrow. The next day. This is just sad

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
96. This is election has fractured the party, I don't think the party will recover there's so
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:56 PM
Feb 2016

much anger and visceral activity. Republicans got this.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
104. I only watch for him
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:04 PM
Feb 2016

Him and carly? Lolololol! Him and bushie, roflmbao. Lordy! Carson be stuck like he's trapped in an elevator, hahaha!

randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. Wait, so let me understand, you are slamming the above comments and people?
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:50 PM
Feb 2016

You are accusing AngryBlackLady and others of racism?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
79. Not around here. Doesn't happen around here
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:32 PM
Feb 2016

so why drag it in here? For all you know, it was said by a Republican or someone trying to stir up trouble for their own political reasons. Um-hm.

There's no reason to drag something disgusting in from the street so you can stand around and point at it. It doesn't contribute anything to what we do here. We're all fully aware that there's a big ugly world out there.

boston bean

(36,223 posts)
84. The OP brought it here and I set the record straight.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:36 PM
Feb 2016

I will post what I want when I want within the rule of this site. I do not take orders from other members.

Hope that settles your concerns.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
5. It's really getting childish all this tit for tat. David Brock needs to back off...
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:52 PM
Feb 2016

his attack dog role. I am hearing some in the campaign are not happy with him.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
14. mad, that's what he's paid for.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:56 PM
Feb 2016

He'll only back off if it reaps negative dividends, and Camp Weathervane's slow to perceive that the attacks are likely to rebound on the campaign.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
48. As SoS, she spent thousands of TAXPAYER dollars buying fake Facebook and Twitter followers.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:12 PM
Feb 2016

Imagine what she'd buy with DONOR dollars!

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
69. Wonder If Enough People Will Connect The Dots And Not
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:26 PM
Feb 2016

blame this on Bernie. Guess he there's nothing he won't do. I've got to stop reading his crap, my feelings about all this is really turning into some serious, serious negative feelings.

I'm flabbergasted at how her campaign is being run and I thought last time was bad. Fangs and claws seem to be amped up now.

Don't know how Bernie stands this onslaught by them. All we can do is keep fighting for him and hope people see through this. I just don't know.

Breaks my heart.

onecaliberal

(32,878 posts)
11. This right here is the final straw for me.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:54 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:09 PM - Edit history (1)

There will be no nose holding. I will never ever be for her. I cannot in good conscience support someone so completely slimy and morally bankrupt, someone who would say this about a man who has worked his whole life for others. He has more integrity in his pinky fingernail than she has in her whole body, as for John Lewis, what does it say for him that he was willing to go along with this?

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
12. Questioning Bernie's honesty about his civil rights activity....
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:55 PM
Feb 2016

then attacking Bernie's supporters when they speak out.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
42. Exactly. Every article described Lewis' remarks as an attack or a slam.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:11 PM
Feb 2016

Suddenly nobody can respond to it without "Attacking a civil rights icon".

You can't make this stuff up. No low is too low for the Clinton Crew.

ShrimpPoboy

(301 posts)
127. Unfortunately there are small minded people
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:52 AM
Feb 2016

throwing out racial slurs and being ugly. I doubt there would be this kind of response or backlash against Sanders' people if the only criticism of Lewis was directed at what he said.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
17. This battle is lost. Hillary's campaign has used it to her advantage I fear.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:58 PM
Feb 2016

And that makes me sad.

So do you suggest we never mention it?

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
21. I'm saddened and stunned by the whole thing.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:01 PM
Feb 2016

You know as well as me or better.
I'm not sure but from a campaign strategy point of view maybe it would be better to focus on positives like that new Erica Garner.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
26. Oh, well, then.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:04 PM
Feb 2016

I don't want to hurt Bernie's campaign by giving an opinion. I am feeding into one of Hillary's main talking points...how bad we Bernie supporters are. Well, damn.

Guess I'd better hush up.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
36. I really don't know.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:09 PM
Feb 2016

You've got every right to speak as well. That's what web forums are for right?

It's not like DU is going to determine the election or anything.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
121. It won't be too her advantage if she gets the nomination
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 04:42 AM
Feb 2016

Maybe she's too stupid to realize that a lot of Bernie supporters are sick of her and will stay home.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
53. It's not your fault. It's a situation that's destined for problems since it is a civil rights leader
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:15 PM
Feb 2016

being criticized and then plays into their whole racist meme. So probably better to just let it die and keep the issues at the forefront.

.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
23. The Southern caucuses and primaries are just getting started. Hillary will use this and many other
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:03 PM
Feb 2016

racial attacks for months to come. And then of course if she wins the nomination she will expect the party to come together again like 2008. She keeps these tactics up and there won't be any coming together after the nomination. People will get tired of being abused.

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
68. Don't despair yet. This is the kitchen sink.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:25 PM
Feb 2016

He's gonna fight back.
And I think there's a good chance this will backfire. This might be the opportunity to highlight Bernie's civil rights record, and where exactly Hillary was then and what she was doing when Bernie was being arrested.
We'd better hope that Bernie campaign is tough.

Peregrine Took

(7,416 posts)
18. You are so right, "Mad" - this is much dirtier than the Dean campaign....
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:58 PM
Feb 2016

reminds me of the lies and distortions Swiftboater's put up against Kerry and, were later discredited.

http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,101730_1,00.html

Vile people. I wouldn't believe anything that came from Brock. Recall the Anita Hill book......

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
20. But the terrible lies against Kerry's honorable service at least came from the right wing.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:00 PM
Feb 2016

This is not coming from them.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
37. It is beyond sad.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:10 PM
Feb 2016

I am so distressed about this. I can't understand why John Lewis chose to say what he did, and it is bewildering to see someone of his stature do something like this. The intent of his statement is clear, and those of us who are offended by untruths are attacked for daring to speak against John Lewis, who is an icon. Even if you say you consider him a hero for his work in civil rights. I just don't see why that should give him a pass on any criticism.

appalachiablue

(41,159 posts)
105. What about the timing of this, just after NH, Iowa before that and big endorsements
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:05 PM
Feb 2016

this week, Ben Jealous (last week by phone), Ta-Nehisi Coates, Harry Belafonte. Not to mention Nevada and South Carolina coming soon. Why not a month or two ago, or last summer? Seems strange to me as well as sad.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
55. When it comes to foreign policy, Hillary & friends
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:15 PM
Feb 2016

are pretty right-wing.

They just aren't professed-Republican right-wing.

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
24. If you think about it. the role of people like Brock
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:03 PM
Feb 2016

is to do everything possible to take attention away from the issues, on which his candidate loses 100 out of 100 times. The truth is there for all to see.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
31. David Brock is the scum of the earth. For Clinton...you're judged by the company you keep.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:06 PM
Feb 2016

That's a disgusting thing Brock is doing.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

 

Autumn Colors

(2,379 posts)
32. So wouldn't all Bernie need to do to respond to this
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:07 PM
Feb 2016

is just state that either:

1) No, John Lewis wasn't at this or that civil rights event that he was

OR

2) Say, that he couldn't possibly have seen him, given where he was in the crowd, etc. Maybe Bernie couldn't physically see him there either?

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
35. The Super-PAC that coordinates directly with the Clinton campaign? Starting to look a bit arranged.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:08 PM
Feb 2016

Nothing would surprise me any more.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
60. She also has Priorities USA a super Pac, but I think Brock did not feel welcome there.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:19 PM
Feb 2016

He's buying up his own media outlets.

riversedge

(70,264 posts)
63. No-Vocabulary.....
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:21 PM
Feb 2016

Vile is the word I said and the word I meant:


vile
vīl/
adjective
adjective: vile; comparative adjective: viler; superlative adjective: vilest

extremely unpleasant.
"he has a vile temper"
synonyms: foul, nasty, unpleasant, bad, disagreeable, horrid, horrible, dreadful, abominable, atrocious, offensive, obnoxious, odious, unsavory, repulsive, disgusting, distasteful, loathsome, hateful, nauseating, sickening; More
disgraceful, appalling, shocking, sorry, shabby, shameful, dishonorable, execrable, heinous, abhorrent, deplorable, monstrous, wicked, evil, iniquitous, nefarious, depraved, debased;
contemptible, despicable, reprehensible;
informalgross, godawful, lowdown, lousy;
archaicscurvy
"a vile smell"
antonyms: pleasant
morally bad; wicked.
"as vile a rogue as ever lived"
archaic
of little worth or value.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
70. Okay :)
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:27 PM
Feb 2016

I probably shouldn't have gone there, anyway.

We are in the thick of primary season, that doesn't mean we should be ugly to each other. I apologize for the snark.

Fellow Democrat, you are just as important as anybody else in the constituency.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
112. Just a bit of grammar...you used it as a noun..."the vile"...should have been "the vile (something)"
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:09 AM
Feb 2016

There is no such thing as a "vile".

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
39. I don't believe a bit of it.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:10 PM
Feb 2016

This is the standard "whisper out loud" type of games the Clinton campaign is currently playing.

This right here, diving deep into the ditch and slinging crap around at this early in the game reflects much more poorly on her own campaign than her manufactured "crisis" every could.

She might as well release a "Bernie Sex Tape - Revealed" statement for all the good it is doing her.

Maybe she will release footage of him putting quarters into the Salvation Army bucket and declare that he is too stingy? Maybe he donated a pallet of no-name brand dog food to the animal shelter, and that's bad?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
59. Exactly.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:19 PM
Feb 2016

Some are trying to drag everything down to a debased and ugly level and then pull us into it.

It's a game and shouldn't be tolerated.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
44. their "examples" of people supposedly trolling Lewis appear to me
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:11 PM
Feb 2016

to be people threatening anybody who dares to troll Lewis.

Not one example there of anybody trolling Lewis

riversedge

(70,264 posts)
58. "its Bernies job to shut this down. Let's see if he has the integrity to do it." Last
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:18 PM
Feb 2016

weekend Sanders told them to stop it. I think he needs to say it again.

Tweet:
Janice Barandes ?@Boomerbabe3 3h3 hours ago

@winner2016nh @Mamas_Spot @joanwalsh @CelinaGMusic its Bernies job to shut this down. Let's see if he has the integrity to do it.

!

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
92. Oh where have we seen THIS game before??
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:51 PM
Feb 2016

Invent your very own kerfluffle and then ask Bernie to repudiate his own supporters.

Uh huh. Horrible little game. Everyone sees through it now.

Nice try.

No, it's not nice. Not at all.


 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
113. It is typical divorce lawyer tactics...throw out garbage...then make a killing off of the drama.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:16 AM
Feb 2016

You say nothing...it "stands". You "correct the record" and It's On !!! It's an old Damned if you Do and Damned if you Don't. Again, sleazy divorce lawyer tactics.

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
61. Poor Bernie supporters.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:20 PM
Feb 2016

Seriously, BS supporters attack and put down one of the greatest representatives we have in Congress, yet the Bernie supporters are the ones being "slammed"? Give me a break.

The double standards on DU lately are absolutely ridiculous. When it comes to Hillary, anything goes. She's been called a "bitch" here among many other names and juries let it stand every time. Yet if you state a factual observation about Bernie or dare question his vague proposals that use made-up numbers, you're "slamming" him and you're an awful person for not seeing how perfect he is.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
62. Leave it to the Clintonian machine to use a civil rights icon as a political pawn.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:20 PM
Feb 2016

A very sad day indeed.

 

juxtaposed

(2,778 posts)
64. this is sad, Brock, and hrc using race bating.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:23 PM
Feb 2016

this will be ugly tonight and I feel it may blow up hrc's campaign.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
85. lol -- maybe Hill wants to accuse Bernie's supporters of attacking John Lewis now?
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:45 PM
Feb 2016

If so, how cheap.

NanceGreggs

(27,816 posts)
88. So it's David Brock's/HRC's fault ...
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:48 PM
Feb 2016

... that BS supporters post hateful stuff?

Many of us have seen their posts on the FB pages of John Lewis, Gabby Giffords, and others because they had the gall to endorse Hillary instead of BS.

This behaviour is not new - it's been repeated over and over throughout this campaign.

"I do not think John Lewis should have said what he did about not remembering Bernie. It made it sound like he was questioning his honesty. He should have just endorsed Hillary."

Should everyone endorsing HRC check with BSers before making a statement, just to ensure they're saying what you want them to say, in the way you want them to say it?

"It made it sound like he was questioning his honesty." It didn't 'sound' that way to me at all.

Let's not forget that one of Bernie's supporters, Cornell West, called Obama "the niggerized president", among other things. Maybe you should concern yourself with what your own candidate's endorsers say before insisting that John Lewis should speak in accordance with your wishes.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
94. Umm hmm
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:54 PM
Feb 2016

Yeah they know. Why wont you just pretend none of that happened? So mean.
You are hurting bernie and making everybody miserable. Stop noticing the bad stuff you just want him to lose. The bus is coming.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
120. Hey it was Hillary's fault when the Sanders campaign tried to steal her data too
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 04:29 AM
Feb 2016

And when they shat on Planned Parenthood and Sybrina Fulton's FB pages too.

So I guess some are just continuing the disingenuous ridiculousness that it's everybody's fault but the people actually doing the shitty, mortifying, counter productive behavior.

NanceGreggs

(27,816 posts)
123. Well, apparently that's what we're all supposed to do ...
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 04:50 AM
Feb 2016

... acknowledge that Bernie is always the victim.

It's amazing to watch how Senator "I've never run a dirty campaign" Sanders is more than happy to have his supporters run a dirty campaign for him, while feigning ignorance of their well-documented behaviour.

Chathamization

(1,638 posts)
89. Those "supporters" include a Conservative Breitbart writer who called Sanders a "gamma male" and a
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:49 PM
Feb 2016

"matriarch", and another Conservative who complains about "dopey Sanders voters." I'm guessing Brock is assuming he can just make stuff up and people will believe him. I guess some people really don't care about the truth at all.

Edit: Just checked another "supporter," who has a tweet saying that Democrats need a reality check and there's nothing decent about socialism or socialist. So the Clinton campaign is straight up lying and saying that conservatives who dislike Sanders are his supporters. I wonder how many of the "Bernie Bros" we hear about are random people online who don't like Sanders but get labelled as his supporters because they say something nasty. I mean, seriously; this is just straight up lying.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
98. First the gender card, then the race card.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:57 PM
Feb 2016

With all this card playing, they might find good jobs in Vegas.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
101. Bernie fans must be scared
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:00 PM
Feb 2016

The bros are out of control again. This gutter kind of politics might play well on twitter and reddit.

Let's see how it plays in SC and super tuesday states.

BainsBane

(53,038 posts)
107. You're outraged that people find it unacceptable to smear a Civil Rights hero?
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:09 PM
Feb 2016

There is a lot of ugliness about, but it is not on the part of those who denounce ugly comments toward Lewis.

None of those comments you site are ugly. They are commenting on the hatefulness that is made evident anytime any public figure has the audacity to criticize Sanders or support Clinton.

Here is an example of the discourse being so unfairly smeared by the awful Americans who dare to respect John Lewis.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1345493


FB: https://www.facebook.com/JohnLewis/?fref=nf

Since when did MLK represent the Establishment? I guess all that money and influence is more important than carrying on his legacy, I guess you got yours and don't feel the need to ensure that all young Americans both Black, Latino, and White be able to afford to go to to college and be able to compete with the Global Jobs market, as long as you got yours.



You are a sell out!!!!!!! U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders is way better. The Clintons doubled the prison population by throwing black people in prisons. U. S. U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders is much better on issues that are relavant to the poor avereage american. I thaught you were inteligent. You get a perfect canidate in Sanders and you turn your back. I don'ty care what you diud in your life. If your done doing new good things then get out of the way and retire. Bernie Sanders wants to do something about mass incarceration and legalize Mariuanna. you must be getting donations from the prison industry. All you want to do is advance your career!


Twitter:
John Lewis must have Alzheimer's

No. He has the money from Hillary's campaign purse! Disgusting!


You say Lewis shouldn't have said he never met Bernie because it makes it seem like Bernie is dishonest. How dare a man who risked and nearly lost his life fighting for Civil Rights comment on who he did and didn't meet in the course of that struggle. He sacrificed himself for the right of African Americans to vote, and now you say he should not exercise his hard fought right to free speech because his rights don't extend to disagreeing with one white politician you clearly think superior? And now you insist yet again that any criticism of any behavior by Sanders supporters constitutes hatred. How dare anyone comment on foul or racist attacks. Daring to question white "progressives" and their inherent superiority is of course racist, given that white people are the most oppressed people in America, especially white men who make $80k--$300k a year. The racism toward them truly is unacceptable, clearly worse than hurling racial epithets at a Civil Rights hero, or even beating or killing black men.

This follows your relentless attacks on Black Lives Matter. That was the moment that made it difficult for Sanders to attract a majority of black supporters, and you were on the front lines on DU of making that happen.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/128026409
http://www.democraticunderground.com/128027165
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251456257
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251456604
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251457765

Here is a basic point that you do not appear to understand: Your rights or views are not more important than those of people who disagree with you. Bernie Sanders is not superior to John Lewis or any other person on this planet. EVERY citizen has every right to criticize someone running for the presidency. They also have a right to vote however they damn well please. If anyone has earned that right it is John Lewis.


GumboYaYa

(5,942 posts)
109. Hello fellow Deaniac....
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:58 PM
Feb 2016

Things repeat themselves....one of these days a populist is going to win and we will celebrate!!!

It has been too long. It is great to see you still fighting the good fight!!!

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
111. GumboYaYA so good to see you. Have I been missing your posts?
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:03 AM
Feb 2016

Or have you not been posting much?

Lots of memories from back then.

GumboYaYa

(5,942 posts)
124. I do remember that....
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:38 AM
Feb 2016

My two kids are on stage also. Today my daughter turns 20. Wow...time really does fly.


I have not been around much. We have been extremely busy the past several years. We bought an old church (46,000 square feet) that needed massive repairs so I spend almost all my free time working on it. My wife runs an auction company out of the building.

The whole family is getting into Bernie's campaign, so I will be here more often.

It is great to chat with you!

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
130. Well, you guys have done a lot.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:55 AM
Feb 2016

My kids are older than yours, and I won't even tell you my age...

But I am sure enjoying retirement...teaching ain't what it used to be. Got 33 good years in.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
126. I think they hung Lewis out as bait.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:49 AM
Feb 2016

Anyone who takes that bait is going to be held up as "evidence" that all of Bernie's people are at best uncivil and at worst horrible racists, part of the wider plan to tear down "Bernie Bros." It's schmuck-bait.

 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
128. The obama Boys redux argument again
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:54 AM
Feb 2016

Rep. Lewis should have just stuck with endorsing Hillary, but his intentional mischaracterization of Bernie Sanders was uncalled for and smells like a typical Clinton attack line.

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