2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhen Hillary says "We have intelligence that says..."
It is impossible for me NOT to remember when she said she repeated the lies about Iraq having reconstituted its nuclear program and that they have weapons of mass destruction.
She is not credible.
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001.
It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security."
SHRED
(28,136 posts)...she was probably consulting with Henry Kissinger.
bvf
(6,604 posts)moondust
(20,000 posts)that most of that crap was bullshit. And we didn't need any "intelligence reports" to arrive at that conclusion. As I remember it, Cheney and others started the Saddam WMD claims when Coleen Rowley was testifying before the Senate. I just figured it was Republiicans using big headlines yet again as a distraction because what Rowley had to say placed Bushco's competence in doubt. Once they started scaring people who were already scared, they couldn't walk it back.
I've always wondered why Hillary and others in Congress didn't take a couple independent interpreters with the necessary clearances over to CIA and NSA and demand to see and hear the raw intelligence supporting these WMD claims--just to remove any doubt before sending young men and women to die in a war zone. That would have been responsible leadership. They didn't; they apparently just swallowed the "summaries" delivered by the intelligence agencies and George "Slam Dunk" Tenet. We now know for a fact that the raw intelligence didn't exist because the programs themselves didn't exist; somebody was making shit up. The Iraq Survey Group that hunted for the WMD evidence in Iraq interviewed Iraqis familiar with Saddam's WMD programs who said they had done away with the programs by the mid 1990s, in which case Bill Clinton should have known that well before (and after) he left office.
I don't know if I could vote for somebody who, without doing due diligence, helped enable all that death, destruction, and waste in the worst foreign policy mistake in U.S. history.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)I thought that we did NOT need to be going to war. The aide who answered my call assured me that my Congressman had classified information about Weapons of Mass Destruction.
I was totally outraged, because I knew it was a complete and total lie. After all these years I'm still flabbergasted that someone like me could totally see through the administration's bullshit, and yet my elected representative could not.