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Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 03:47 AM Feb 2016

I think Sanders easily had far and away the best line of the night.

“Let’s not insult the intelligence of the American people. People aren’t dumb. Why in God’s name does Wall Street make huge campaign contributions? I guess just for the fun of it; they want to throw money around,”


That was a thing of beauty, it was.

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I think Sanders easily had far and away the best line of the night. (Original Post) Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 OP
I guess just for the fun of it; they want to throw money around,”"just for the fun of it" Autumn Feb 2016 #1
Yeah, not bad. dchill Feb 2016 #2
Clintonites Just Cover Their Ears billhicks76 Feb 2016 #3
I agree. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #4
And it is a quote that shoud be on constant replay.. tokenlib Feb 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Unknown Beatle Feb 2016 #6
Hillary is disingenuous. Unknown Beatle Feb 2016 #7
Unfortunately, it followed a comment of his own BainsBane Feb 2016 #8
I'll be so glad when the Clintons are completely retired from politics. (nt) w4rma Feb 2016 #9
No way you can drag Bernie Sanders down to Hillary's level. No way. delrem Feb 2016 #10
re: "his own votes to deregulate derivatives" thesquanderer Feb 2016 #12
re: "his own fundraising from those same banks" thesquanderer Feb 2016 #13
He speaks like regular people cause that's what he is. People respond to Bonobo Feb 2016 #11
K and R (nt) bigwillq Feb 2016 #14

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
1. I guess just for the fun of it; they want to throw money around,”"just for the fun of it"
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 03:53 AM
Feb 2016

It was indeed a beauty. God this man excites me like no politician ever has.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
3. Clintonites Just Cover Their Ears
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 06:01 AM
Feb 2016

They refuse to come to terms with the truth. I know not one person who is voting for Hillary. They are ALL Bernie supporters. No one trusts her.

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
5. And it is a quote that shoud be on constant replay..
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 06:26 AM
Feb 2016

..she can't hide from the issue of the speaking fees and the cozy relationship with Wall Street. Most people won't fall for that crap Chris Matthews was spewing about her taking their money the night before and turning on them the next day.

It's still the rigged economy, people!!

Response to tokenlib (Reply #5)

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
7. Hillary is disingenuous.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 06:52 AM
Feb 2016

disingenuous: not truly honest or sincere : giving the false appearance of being honest or sincere : lacking in candor; also : giving a false appearance of simple frankness : calculating

That fits Hillary to a T.

BainsBane

(53,038 posts)
8. Unfortunately, it followed a comment of his own
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:00 AM
Feb 2016

That in my opinion insulted the intelligence of voters.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511207506

It also ignored his own votes to deregulate derivatives and benefits to other corporate industries, like immunity for the gun industry and as much as $1.3 trillion for Lockheed-Martin for the F-35, as well as his own fundraising from those same banks. http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/sanders-democratic-fundraisers/index.html

So yeah, the line was a good one. No one can deny Sanders skill at turning a slogan. The problem
is the lines don't hold up so well under examination of his record.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
10. No way you can drag Bernie Sanders down to Hillary's level. No way.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:28 AM
Feb 2016

But keep on trying,
It will exercise the futility and clearly it keeps you amused.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
12. re: "his own votes to deregulate derivatives"
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:06 PM
Feb 2016

Here's how Sanders came to support Bill Clinton's Commodity Futures Modernization Act (the deregulation of derivatives)...

According to the (NOT particularly pro-Sanders) article at

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-wall-street_5617f634e4b0dbb8000e5a58

The version Sanders voted for passed the House 377 to 4 in October of 2000. It did not include the really bad provisions. Those were later added by Phil Gramm in coordination with the Clinton administration. The revised version was made part of a "must pass" bill (the kind of bill that must be passed to avoid shutting down the government).

the version Sanders initially voted for was more benign than the final, Gramm-authored version
...
In October 2000, the bill passed the House by a vote of 377 to 4 (51 members didn't vote), and then sat on the shelf for weeks.

But in December, Gramm -- after coordinating with top Clinton administration officials -- added much harder-edged deregulatory language to the bill, then attached the entire package to a must-pass 11,000-page bill funding the entire federal government. After Gramm's workshopping, the legislation included new language saying the federal government "shall not exercise regulatory authority with respect to, a covered swap agreement offered, entered into, or provided by a bank." That ended all government oversight of derivatives purchased or traded by banks. He also created the so-called "Enron Loophole," which barred federal oversight of energy trading on electronic platforms.

This was an era in which voting against funding the federal government was considered a major governance faux pas. The bill sailed through both chambers of Congress
...
Sanders has since hammered the CFMA, its architects and specific provisions in Senate hearings and on the Senate floor. He helped push through legislation to close the Enron loophole in 2008.


Ironic that Hillary brought this up, accusing him of helping to crash the economy by stupidly voting for the bill President Clinton signed. Yeah, no way that could backfire...

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
13. re: "his own fundraising from those same banks"
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:23 PM
Feb 2016

He was fundraising for the Democratic party. Hillary was fundraising for herself.

Ironically, people here were only recently criticizing Bernie for not raising funds for the party. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Also, these were group fundraisers. Goldman Sachs being one of many groups in attendance at a party fundraiser is not quite the same as being personally paid to speak at Goldman Sachs at their request. I guess Bernie should have said, "I'm glad to speak to this room full of donors, but I must ask everyone from Goldman Sachs to leave"?

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
11. He speaks like regular people cause that's what he is. People respond to
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:47 AM
Feb 2016

not being spoken down to from lofty golden heights.

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