2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI can always tell when Hillary has done a superb job in a debate....
the Bernie supporters come out in full force slinging mud...so much fun to read!
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Plus every demographic except women over 65.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... Sanders currently has her coalition she lost with in 08
newfie11
(8,159 posts)Don't count us old ladies out!
I'm 68 and very pro Bernie!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)proposals myself and hope we will eventually succeed in achieving them.
I just liked Bernie himself a lot more before I realized he is not a liberal and genuinely despises liberals. I'm a liberal. By far the largest block of voters on the left is liberal. It's not a sensible or sustainable place for an aspirant to national leadership to be coming from, and I want a successful, sustainable presidency.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)His feelings have not been secret, for the most part, and he's not the least ashamed of his political orientation. He's proud of it and was proud of refusing to compromise his principles by registering Democrat -- until he did that this fall solely to run on the democratic ticket.
I'm sure he'd have a lot more to say up front about his ideology and the many failings of my corrupt, unprincipled, liberal, democratic, pragmatic (progressive) ideology -- if he weren't currently running as a Democrat hoping to pick up the votes of people like me. Maybe later.
Senator Sanders likes to point out that he is the most progressive candidate, points that out a lot frankly in this campaign.
http://politistick.com/what-bernie-sanders-senior-campaign-adviser-says-hes-not-a-liberal/
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/10/politics/hillary-clinton-democrat-progressive/
So you have a progressive and a moderate to choose from.I prefer liberal too,but neither are claiming to be,although Bernie fits my definition of liberal.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Last edited Fri Feb 12, 2016, 02:28 PM - Edit history (1)
to acknowledge that simple truth, who indeed make it a principle to insist on insulting and rejecting others like me, reveal something important about their political orientation.
As does anyone who says something like "confessed" to being a moderate Democrat. No kidding! As if it's a crime, or a sin!? She's proud of it, of course -- and so are others in the largest block of leftist voters, by far, in the nation.
That kind of small-minded exclusiveness, that insulting attitude toward others with the same goals, and dysfunctional refusal to ally with liberals are, to put it mildly, not characteristic of liberals. It is far-left, radical behavior, no matter what label people try to plaster on it.
NanceGreggs
(27,816 posts)... "she voted for the IWR". That always comes up when she's had a good debate night, has earned a major endorsement, or has gone up in the polls.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and International Water Resources. (I didn't know what it was.) Adding "Hillary voted" gets discussion threads on DU and Discussionist. GD-P discussion is a world of its own.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Interesting it has been ratchet up the last week as well.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... how well Hillary did (and how poorly Bernie did) by simply opening my browser and viewing the comments.
So much MUD! Everywhere!! Joan Crawford would be appalled!
"Clean up ... this ... MESS!"
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)A rash of wildfires has become a pretty reliable indicator that something I may have failed to even recognize as a reverse for Bernie just occurred.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)back that claim up.
That's how good she was, and they can't take it
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)are somehow satisfying to those prone to them. It's so hard to imagine what it like to be a very different sort of person that I really can't guess. I often wonder though. Suffering or enjoying? Reverses tend to stress me, a bit to a lot, and if I reacted to every little thing like that I'd have to withdraw from politics entirely for my own wellbeing - except for polling days, of course.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)Beacool
(30,250 posts)Even the make up of audience is being put into question. According to some, they were supposedly pro-Hillary plants.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)This is about the 5th or 6th time somebody has posted this.
frylock
(34,825 posts)when she has to go to foreign countries to hold fund raisers.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)one is deemed to stupid for office?