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cali

(114,904 posts)
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:18 AM Feb 2016

Demand Jonathan Capehart and the WaPo retract this lie

By Jonathan Capehart February 11 at 5:38 PM

In trying to establish the civil rights bona fides of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), many of his supporters have taken to posting a black-and-white photo of the presidential candidate from 1962. Students can be seen sitting on the floor and standing in the back as the then-dark-haired activist addresses them.


The compelling picture can be found in the senator’s biographical video on his campaign website. “At the University of Chicago,” Sanders says as the photo fades in and out, “I got involved in the civil rights movement. We ended up engaging in a sit-in demonstration.” It’s on the campaign’s Tumblr feed. “As the Civil Rights Movement grew, Bernie led a sit-in to desegregate off-campus housing at the University of Chicago,” reads the timeline under 1962. And Sanders used it in a stirring 2013 video to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington. “I remember the day very well and I remember the moment, the period well,” he says as the photo passes by, “because up at the University of Chicago, where I was then going to school, we were working with young people in the South.”


But that’s not Bernie Sanders in the photo. It is Bruce Rappaport.

<snip>
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/02/11/stop-sending-around-this-photo-of-bernie-sanders/


The photographer who took those photographs, world renowned photographer Danny Lyons says they damn well are Bernie.

SHAME on the WaPo and Capehart.

"In 1962 and the spring of 1963 I was the student photographer at the University of Chicago, making pictures for the yearbook, the Alumni Magazine and the student paper, The Maroon. By the summer of 1962 I had taken my camera into the deep South, and become the first photographer for SNCC.

"That winter at the University of Chicago, there was a sit-in inside the administration building protesting discrimination against blacks in university owned housing. I went to it with a CORE activist and friend. The sit in was in a crowded hallway, blocking the entrance to the office of Dr. George Beadle, the chancellor.

"I took the photograph of Bernie Sanders speaking to his fellow CORE members at that sit-in. Bob McNamara, a close friend and CORE activist, is in the very corner next to me in the picture. Across the room from me is another campus photographer named Wexler, who taught me how to develop film.

"I photographed Bernie a second time after he got a haircut, as he appeared next to the noble laureate and chancellor Dr. George Beadle. Time Magazine is now claiming it is not Bernie in the picture but someone else. It is Bernie, and it is proof of his very early dedication to justice for African Americans. The CORE sit-in that Bernie helped lead was the first civil rights sit-in to take place in the North."

<snip>
http://www.phaidon.com/agenda/photography/articles/2016/february/02/when-danny-lyon-met-bernie-sanders/



Contact information:

https://m.facebook.com/capehart

http://help.washingtonpost.com/ics/support/ticketnewwizard.asp?style=classic&deptID=15080

The Washington Post's ombudsman's number is 202-334-7582

https://mobile.twitter.com/capehartj

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Demand Jonathan Capehart and the WaPo retract this lie (Original Post) cali Feb 2016 OP
Not my job. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #1
Lol. Hillary cali Feb 2016 #2
I don't believe that to be accurate but have at it. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #11
Hey. Republicans gonna smear. retrowire Feb 2016 #24
I am pretty sure we all know... intersectionality Feb 2016 #25
I didn't see it but I would have called it out. navarth Feb 2016 #28
Oh who do you think you're fooling. You wouldn't anyway. notadmblnd Feb 2016 #4
Thanks. As Clinton supporters avidly push these lies cali Feb 2016 #5
I know, right? notadmblnd Feb 2016 #13
what the heck does this even refer to? nashville_brook Feb 2016 #8
Quelle surprise. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #10
I've fought back against plenty of anti-Hillary smears. Hissyspit Feb 2016 #15
I agree that is my job. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #17
I find it arrogant and presumptuous to assume an OP addressing all of DU is asking something of you Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #87
Until recently I would defend Hillary from the spurious attacks by Republicans. Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #22
Yep. Sitting at the bar, if someone were to make some stupid false remark about the Clintons.. frylock Feb 2016 #125
+1 leftofcool Feb 2016 #48
GOP.com is not the Washington Post aintitfunny Feb 2016 #63
Will contact them demanding a retraction! peacebird Feb 2016 #3
and of course someone who passed away several years ago was named which makes verification azurnoir Feb 2016 #6
Now that Danny Lyon has clearly stated that he took the pics cali Feb 2016 #9
well it's irrelevant now, that Danny Lyon has spoken up I meant all along for me azurnoir Feb 2016 #12
I think David Brock is to Karl Rove, what Chris Gaines is to Garth Brooks. eom Snotcicles Feb 2016 #91
LOL. Yeah. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #115
...... cali Feb 2016 #123
! frylock Feb 2016 #127
And there are apparently, now, other photos from that very day. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #73
Thanks for posting this cali. SamKnause Feb 2016 #7
Kick cali Feb 2016 #14
K & R AzDar Feb 2016 #16
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #18
I understand the mistake, though matt819 Feb 2016 #19
Yikes cali Feb 2016 #20
I think it's intended as NorthCarolina Feb 2016 #55
Maybe Gallows Humor, as we used to call it. libdem4life Feb 2016 #64
I got that. I wouldn't have had the guts to post it though cali Feb 2016 #100
Yes matt819 Feb 2016 #95
LOL!!! jillan Feb 2016 #27
Any petitions started yet? Tweety was also pushing this BS and attacked Tad Devine last nite. jillan Feb 2016 #21
Someone should start a MoveOn petition for this. Duppers Feb 2016 #23
Matthews & Capehart had ME convinced it was a lie.. K Gardner Feb 2016 #103
The depths of this little episode of ratfuckery are truly unfathomable. mhatrw Feb 2016 #121
I love mysteries and this is a good one! Peregrine Took Feb 2016 #152
A Clinton "campaign strategist" saw the Schmitt post on the internet and drove the train from there mhatrw Feb 2016 #153
thanks, i wrote wapo nt retrowire Feb 2016 #26
He's doubling down. He just sent this on twitter a half hour ago Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #29
And another slimy HRC meme bites the dust nt berningman Feb 2016 #30
the correction is showing up in the comments now magical thyme Feb 2016 #31
He doesn't care. I think he knows it is false, but he's taunting us with tweets. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #32
Toady cali Feb 2016 #34
The Washington Fucking Post is printing blatant lies and laughing in our faces if we complain Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #37
use the 800 number...it costs them money questionseverything Feb 2016 #124
They really don't care. So only .0001% of the voters keep believing the lies, that is still .0001% LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #80
Kick. n/t JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #33
LOL bravenak Feb 2016 #35
You prefer lies? That speaks well of you. BTW, Are you "the black vote"? n/t xocet Feb 2016 #42
Yes. I am. bravenak Feb 2016 #43
The whole vote? You are legion. n/t xocet Feb 2016 #46
Thank you. bravenak Feb 2016 #47
You're welcome. n/t xocet Feb 2016 #50
i am a black voter, and I find this tactic noiretextatique Feb 2016 #119
I am pretty sure black voters don't need to rely on lies. Gore1FL Feb 2016 #56
LOL, wat? bravenak Feb 2016 #57
Let me rephrase: Gore1FL Feb 2016 #67
I just wrote to WAPO! n/t marew Feb 2016 #36
The Washington Post's ombudsman's number is 202-334-7582 according to their website. n/t xocet Feb 2016 #38
This ^^ is the person who will act. The ombudsman is the person for these complaints. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2016 #83
Thank you. I'll add that to the op cali Feb 2016 #102
You're welcome. n/t xocet Feb 2016 #116
Done! you can also call... in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #39
What scares me most? They went in and CHANGED THE RECORD mainer Feb 2016 #40
that is truly disgusting Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #44
maybe we should be looking into who changed the captions, that seems to be the bigger story juxtaposed Feb 2016 #134
that's pretty North Korean renate Feb 2016 #145
They'l retract it after South Carolina's done voting. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #41
This is NOT a pic of Hillary with Kissinger! AlbertCat Feb 2016 #45
He just double downed on it pinebox Feb 2016 #49
How unprofessional is that? pacalo Feb 2016 #144
Just wrote to WaPo truebluegreen Feb 2016 #51
Wow..This is Rovian...Whew, ugly. EndElectoral Feb 2016 #52
Done! Thanks cali! Eom Arazi Feb 2016 #53
It looks like Bruce to me. Sorry leftofcool Feb 2016 #54
You should probably pen a letter to the photographer then NorthCarolina Feb 2016 #58
This ^^^^^^ libdem4life Feb 2016 #68
Yeah.. sorry. frylock Feb 2016 #130
There are two students in the new pics and they both resemble the student in the disputed photo: ucrdem Feb 2016 #59
But only one is wearing the same dark sweater. mainer Feb 2016 #62
Since they' re different events I'm not sure the sweater is determinative. ucrdem Feb 2016 #69
Same sweater. And photographer says it's the same man. mainer Feb 2016 #72
The claims are not compelling as the doppelganger situation is what it is. Time will tell. nt ucrdem Feb 2016 #76
Time has told. You completely ignored "photographer says it's the same man". cui bono Feb 2016 #139
Those two do look a lot alike. Are we going overboard on an understandable mis-identification? brush Feb 2016 #84
Changing an archive is truly going overboard. mainer Feb 2016 #90
Ok, but those two do look a lot alike. Wasn't the change made before there was a confirmation? brush Feb 2016 #96
They changed it without even speaking to the photographer! mainer Feb 2016 #99
You may need to borrow my glasses. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #89
Yes, I think it was the widow of the man in the picture R B Garr Feb 2016 #117
You simply take it as given that the photographer himself is wrong. Jim Lane Feb 2016 #128
I watched Sanders' spokesperson Tad Devine on R B Garr Feb 2016 #138
Wow, a Sanders spokesperson hadn't studied up on all the details of a tempest in a teapot? Jim Lane Feb 2016 #146
LOL, so you didn't watch Tad Devine. I figured you R B Garr Feb 2016 #148
Capehart twitter account (he is STILL spreading his lies) jillan Feb 2016 #60
This really requires an apology by the Clinton campaign and the WaPo. EndElectoral Feb 2016 #61
Ambition trumps principle DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #65
This won't make a bit of difference one way or the other. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #66
I get that you have no problem with swiftboating Bernie cali Feb 2016 #81
Maybe Capehart can find a picture of Hillary campaigning for Goldwater. eom Fawke Em Feb 2016 #93
I think it does. It seriously impacts Hillary's GE chances if she gets the nomination. kristopher Feb 2016 #82
If nothing more, one of Brock's character assassins has been dispatched.. frylock Feb 2016 #131
But he spent all day doing his job. Reporting. Getting the facts. cui bono Feb 2016 #141
I've left him a couple tweets myself. frylock Feb 2016 #150
I may have just read them... cui bono Feb 2016 #151
The extra photos of Bernie... mainer Feb 2016 #70
This has David Brock's fingerprints all over it. Senator Tankerbell Feb 2016 #77
Yep. And his willing henchmen, the Hill Bros; Peter Daou and Tom Watson cali Feb 2016 #85
Hill's shills at the Post are splintering the Democratic party Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #71
K & R historylovr Feb 2016 #74
some pushback needed against Tweety too--he featured Capehart's bbgrunt Feb 2016 #75
BTW, both Jon Capehart and Marc Ambinder are totally lacking credibility as journalists now-- TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #78
And Matthews, whose show is well staffed and yet did not fact check with the photographer. Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #107
Loose ship is an understatement for Matthews. Sloppy, impulsive, erratic, and unable to hide bias. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #109
Hope it was worth it. frylock Feb 2016 #132
Done. Thank you very much. nt kristopher Feb 2016 #79
Just wrote to the Washington Post about this outrageous lie. Merryland Feb 2016 #86
Done! Do not forget about his twitter account. @CapehartJ jillan Feb 2016 #88
While his lies demonstrate comtempt for Bernie, the contempt that is the worst is that which is Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #92
I tend to agree with that. cali Feb 2016 #94
I just read a bunch of his Twitter feed, I don't use nor really care for Twitter but I was shocked Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #105
Ugh. How can he be so dishonest? cali Feb 2016 #108
He is being shredded on twitter. frylock Feb 2016 #135
Capehart has actually done us a favor. He opened my eyes. mainer Feb 2016 #97
I emailed him (since I don't do Twitter) for all the good it'll probably do. CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #98
Capehart made the same claim on Hardball yesterday. nt Chezboo Feb 2016 #101
Tweety/Capehart also physically mocked Sanders.. K Gardner Feb 2016 #104
Someone just accused me of smearing a prominent black journalist cali Feb 2016 #110
LOL. Well, a prominent black journalist just mocked a white Senator K Gardner Feb 2016 #111
I was surprised at Capehart's lack of professionalism last night. senz Feb 2016 #106
Don't forget MSNBC is culpable in this also.. they K Gardner Feb 2016 #112
Capehart just now finished more sliming on MSNBC dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #113
Screw swiftboating Capehart. He is a disgrace. cali Feb 2016 #118
Sadly it is the better man, Berniie, who is getting screwed dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #120
there is an old prairie saying: "The best place to hide your shit... islandmkl Feb 2016 #114
Maybe the confusion is that he doesn't have white hair and is bald on top? :) libdem4life Feb 2016 #122
Capehart is not backing down. Dawson Leery Feb 2016 #126
How, exactly, is it bullying to challenge a journalist on a factually inaccurate account? Jim Lane Feb 2016 #129
Hey Jim cali Feb 2016 #136
Exactly. n/t cui bono Feb 2016 #142
Oh please. How ridiculous. cali Feb 2016 #133
He already has backed down. jillan Feb 2016 #140
You're right, he should not be bullied. And he is not being bullied. cui bono Feb 2016 #143
you can leave a facebook message on his page. grasswire Feb 2016 #137
Per Capehart's last Tweet: "not cut and dry" WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #147
It's what Hillary people do AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #149
I just reread this thread in light of the many lies that have come since, currently it's that Bernie Bluenorthwest May 2016 #154
Yep. That's our politics cali May 2016 #155
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
1. Not my job.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:22 AM
Feb 2016

Gop.com was used to smear Clinton here this morning. That same op mentioned Vince Foster and Benghazi. If Sanders supporters won't fight back against those smears I don't see a point in demanding help from Clinton supporters with this. Not even confident this is a lie.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
11. I don't believe that to be accurate but have at it.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:41 AM
Feb 2016

I'll continue to fight back against right wingers spinning bullshit against Clinton. I hope you join me in fighting back against the Vince Foster and Benghazi smears and right wingers spreading disinformation from places like gop.com.

That use to be common sense around these parts.

It's like the time when a failed wich hunt by Rep Mike Conaway was used to trash Gutierrez on Du. I'm not kidding, that was done right here on DU.

My point is this.

"Demand Jonathan Capehart and the WaPo retract this lie"

I will guarantee you didn't demand the lies be called out to the person spreading the failed investigation into Gutierrez by Mike Conaway.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
24. Hey. Republicans gonna smear.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:03 AM
Feb 2016

A supposedly neutral news source should get their shit straight.

The GOP's aren't going to straighten shit up for anyone. that's a fruitless endeavor you've got going on.

but if you want to actually do something about a corporate media that is lying to you while smiling and telling you that they're to be trusted, then you should.

again, GOP ain't gonna change for nobody. they're indebted to themselves.

corporate media though? they need us to make money.

intersectionality

(106 posts)
25. I am pretty sure we all know...
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:03 AM
Feb 2016

that gop.com isn't posing itself as an objective source of truth. We're asking you to help change information in a place that does pose as that. There is a vast right wing conspiracy against the Clintons (I am sure you will be like... damn... sarcasm... this is not sarcasm - I fully believe this to be true), so why would you attempt to sway opinion in a place like that is really beyond me. Holla when WaPo starts posting things about her that claim she didn't take a specific, progressive action that she actually did take.

On edit: whoops - didn't realize the post above me is basically saying the same thing!

navarth

(5,927 posts)
28. I didn't see it but I would have called it out.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:05 AM
Feb 2016

I am a Bernie supporter but I want this to be done with honesty.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
4. Oh who do you think you're fooling. You wouldn't anyway.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:29 AM
Feb 2016

And where did Cali demand specifically that Clinton supporters should do anything? Oh, that's right. She didn't.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. Thanks. As Clinton supporters avidly push these lies
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:31 AM
Feb 2016

they're the last people i'd expect to help.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
17. I agree that is my job.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:06 AM
Feb 2016

Been fighting the right wing smears against the Clintons for decades. Kudos to you. I wasn't making an absolute comment with respect to Sanders supporters. I simply find it disengenious when someone asks to correct a lie when that same individual spread a really fucked up failed investigation into a democrat by the right as if it were the truth.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
87. I find it arrogant and presumptuous to assume an OP addressing all of DU is asking something of you
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:16 PM
Feb 2016

in specific. You responded as if you were ordered to do something when the OP is just information for us all.

Did you defend the Clintons from all that stuff Obama had to say in 08? Or what?

Dustlawyer

(10,496 posts)
22. Until recently I would defend Hillary from the spurious attacks by Republicans.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:58 AM
Feb 2016

Now, after she has been guilty of numerous spurious attacks against Bernie, I have no sympathy for her. She is guilty of the same tactics as the Republicans so she can deal with it without me!

frylock

(34,825 posts)
125. Yep. Sitting at the bar, if someone were to make some stupid false remark about the Clintons..
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:38 PM
Feb 2016

I always made the effort to set the record straight, however futile it may have been. Now I just quietly take a drink of my IPA and scan the teevees for scores.

aintitfunny

(1,421 posts)
63. GOP.com is not the Washington Post
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:48 AM
Feb 2016

That is a distinctive and important difference. Not to mention that there are so many Clinton smears that are untrue, I lack sufficient time to challenge them. I do, however, challenge them, when I see them, on a pro-Bernie site/page, etc. I would hope that you would do the same when you see lies about Bernie Sanders in a Hillary supportive site/page, etc.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
6. and of course someone who passed away several years ago was named which makes verification
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:34 AM
Feb 2016

rather difficult- a red flag for me

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
9. Now that Danny Lyon has clearly stated that he took the pics
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:37 AM
Feb 2016

And identified the subject as Bernie, that is irrelevant.

Btw, I believe the lie was one of slime merchant's, David Brock

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
12. well it's irrelevant now, that Danny Lyon has spoken up I meant all along for me
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:42 AM
Feb 2016

it could be David Brock but there seems to be quite a bit of slime merchanting going on with certain campaigns

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
73. And there are apparently, now, other photos from that very day.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:58 AM
Feb 2016

And anyone with the sense God gave a goose can see this is Bernie. Just look at the way he holds his mouth. If that's not a "tell," I don't know what is.

SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
7. Thanks for posting this cali.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:34 AM
Feb 2016

Can you add contact links for the Washington Post and Johnathan Capehart.

I definitely want to demand a retraction.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
95. Yes
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:44 PM
Feb 2016

Thank you, NC. Very much intended as humor. I did wonder whether I neede to add the caveat. Guess so

jillan

(39,451 posts)
21. Any petitions started yet? Tweety was also pushing this BS and attacked Tad Devine last nite.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:54 AM
Feb 2016

Pathetic.

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
103. Matthews & Capehart had ME convinced it was a lie..
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:58 PM
Feb 2016

they slammed Tad DeVine, who did not have much of a comeback ! Thanks for this.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
121. The depths of this little episode of ratfuckery are truly unfathomable.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 05:49 PM
Feb 2016

Sally Cook, the retired government lawyer University of Chicago alumni who contacted the University of Chicago archives to get the caption of the photo changed, conceded to Time magazine reporter Sam Frizell that she could not "say for certain the man is not Sanders."

So what made it so important to her that she felt she needed to change the caption in order to identify the individual at a 40+-year-old sit in as some long dead acquaintance rather than as Bernie Sanders?

Who then told Sam Frizell, Time magazine's Clinton pool reporter, about this trifling photo flap? What induced Sam Frizell to devote 1000 words to this complete non-story without making any attempt to contact the original photographer?

What then induced the WaPo's Jonathan Capehart, the live in partner of a rich Clinton campaign staffer, to pick up this complete non-story and spin it into a direct attack of Sanders' integrity without making any attempt to contact the original photographer?

Why did corporate cable news then trot out Capehart on 10 different shows to promulgate this complete non-story?

Peregrine Took

(7,416 posts)
152. I love mysteries and this is a good one!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:08 PM
Feb 2016

I lay awake in bed last night trying to iron it all our like a detective. Seems a man named Schmitt (U of C alum) was the first to make the observation re: Rappaport not Bernie in a "comment" after Rick Pearlstein's article published in the U of C Alumni magazine about a year ago.
Then some time later Sally Cook approached the U of C archive office to have the record permanently changed because, according to Capehart today, she was a "proud ex-wife" who wanted to get the record "corrected" that is the man in the photo was Bruce Rappaport, not Bernie Sanders.
That part is odd enough but how did Capehart find out about all these goings on in Chicago?

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
29. He's doubling down. He just sent this on twitter a half hour ago
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:06 AM
Feb 2016

Jonathan Capehart
?@CapehartJ
That’s not Bernie Sanders in the photo, y'all keep sending around. It is Bruce Rappaport. http://wapo.st/1ovFjwC
https://twitter.com/CapehartJ/status/698152364134387714


 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
31. the correction is showing up in the comments now
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:12 AM
Feb 2016

I haven't been able to get a comment through due to "network issues." I'm hoping it's a slew of corrections, lol! I did send a twitter reply...

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
32. He doesn't care. I think he knows it is false, but he's taunting us with tweets.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:14 AM
Feb 2016

He's not even pretending to care whether it's true or false. He is lying boldly and blatantly.

He just sent this

Jonathan Capehart ?@CapehartJ
Bernie Sanders's questionable photo bomb. http://wapo.st/1ovFjwC

https://twitter.com/CapehartJ/status/698160410961145857
 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
37. The Washington Fucking Post is printing blatant lies and laughing in our faces if we complain
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:28 AM
Feb 2016

such is life

How do I contact Washington Post writers or editors?
Main Phone number: 202.334.6000 or 800.627.1150
http://help.washingtonpost.com/link/portal/15067/15080/ArticleFolder/80/How-to-Contact-the-Newsroom

LiberalArkie

(15,722 posts)
80. They really don't care. So only .0001% of the voters keep believing the lies, that is still .0001%
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:09 PM
Feb 2016

they may not have had before. So Fox news puts out lies from 6AM to 11PM, and then puts out an on air retraction at 2AM, does it change any viewers minds? They did after all put out a retraction.

It seems to be only one candidate in all the partys who is not using Roves tactics. Bad is Good, Loosing is Winning, War is Peace, lies are truth.

A lot of people here use the same tactics also.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
35. LOL
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:26 AM
Feb 2016

A battle a day keeps the black vote away! Or however you say that, I cannot remember the adage

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
119. i am a black voter, and I find this tactic
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 05:30 PM
Feb 2016

disgustingly typical of clintonism. i predict clinton will get the majority of black votes, but at a lower percentage than obama or bill.

Gore1FL

(21,134 posts)
56. I am pretty sure black voters don't need to rely on lies.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:43 AM
Feb 2016

It's pretty horrific that you said this. But then again. you grave dance, so my expectations aren't high.

Gore1FL

(21,134 posts)
67. Let me rephrase:
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:51 AM
Feb 2016

Black voters don't need lies. Your offensiveness of your grave dancing makes it clear you would stoop to implying that they do.

Clear enough?

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
39. Done! you can also call...
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:32 AM
Feb 2016

speak with a Customer Service representative, call 202-334-6100 during business hours

Posted on Hardball page too. MSNBC didn't allow the link, but I posted the basic info and article Headline and told him to Google it...and then apologize to Bernie.

I'm sick to death of the Brock/Clinton LIES and hit jobs. They must be countered ASAP.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

mainer

(12,022 posts)
40. What scares me most? They went in and CHANGED THE RECORD
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:34 AM
Feb 2016

Last year, Hillary supporters actually got the alumni at University of Chicago to go in and CHANGE THE CAPTION on a news photo that had been identified all these years as Bernie Sanders.

They CHANGED THE RECORD. Think about it. They re-wrote history and thought they got away with it. That speaks volumes about how trustworthy these people are.

renate

(13,776 posts)
145. that's pretty North Korean
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:49 AM
Feb 2016

And pretty scary, considering that they have since been proven wrong to have done so. I'm glad they got busted.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
45. This is NOT a pic of Hillary with Kissinger!
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:38 AM
Feb 2016



It's actually Dame Judith Anderson!

No wait... it's Ida Lupino

Wrong wrong.... really, it's Betty Rubble.... either her or Aeon Flux

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
51. Just wrote to WaPo
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:41 AM
Feb 2016

but couldn't see how or where to comment on Capehart's LIE on his Facebook page...

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
58. You should probably pen a letter to the photographer then
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:45 AM
Feb 2016

who has publicly confirmed that it is Bernie. He is apparently not remembering correctly and you seem in a perfect position to straighten his ass out.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
59. There are two students in the new pics and they both resemble the student in the disputed photo:
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:46 AM
Feb 2016


mainer

(12,022 posts)
62. But only one is wearing the same dark sweater.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:48 AM
Feb 2016

And we know Bernie was wearing that sweater. Unless the two guys decided to switch clothes.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
69. Since they' re different events I'm not sure the sweater is determinative.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:52 AM
Feb 2016

They could be twins but to my eye anyway the student in the disputed photo looks more like the student on the left in the new pics. It's a strange dispute but reminiscent of Sanders' claims about the 1963 Washington march, with his supporters saying he marched with MLK and Bernie quietly saying he was "way way back there" on the mall.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
72. Same sweater. And photographer says it's the same man.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:56 AM
Feb 2016

I don't know what evidence you'd consider "determinative" unless we had DNA samples.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
139. Time has told. You completely ignored "photographer says it's the same man".
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:22 AM
Feb 2016

You guys are so pathetic, clinging to this when it's already been debunked by the photog himself.

SMH.

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brush

(53,801 posts)
84. Those two do look a lot alike. Are we going overboard on an understandable mis-identification?
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:12 PM
Feb 2016

mainer

(12,022 posts)
90. Changing an archive is truly going overboard.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:22 PM
Feb 2016

That's what this fiasco is really all about. Anyone who purposefully re-writes history for political gain is evil.

brush

(53,801 posts)
96. Ok, but those two do look a lot alike. Wasn't the change made before there was a confirmation?
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:45 PM
Feb 2016

This has been discussed months before and even then people weren't sure if a certain photo was Bernie or not.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
99. They changed it without even speaking to the photographer!
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:49 PM
Feb 2016

It doesn't bother you that they changed the record WITHOUT CONFIRMATION? What was the point of going in and changing the record, except to discredit Bernie? There's only one group with the motive to do that, and those are Hillary supporters.

Scary, scary people.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
89. You may need to borrow my glasses.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:22 PM
Feb 2016

While both young men are wearing the large glasses fashionable of that day, they do NOT look alike.

Bernie is Semitic and has the classic curls that many Semitic people do. When the hair is cut short, the would-be curls create waves of hair across the head. My son is half Arabic (which is also Semitic) and has exactly that type of hair. He also wears it short and it has, you guessed it, waves across his head where the curls are snipped off.

Forget the sweater. I can tell the student on the right is the same person as the student standing up because of the HAIR.

The other student has straighter and finer hair that hangs down and doesn't "kink" up into waves.

R B Garr

(16,964 posts)
117. Yes, I think it was the widow of the man in the picture
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 05:08 PM
Feb 2016

who identified him. Bruce Rappaport is his name. Other people called the Univ. to let them know that is not Sanders.

This has been covered since the picture came out. Yesterday, Chris Matthews was asking Sanders spokesman, Devine, why they took so long to correct the Sanders ID from their website. This is now well-known who that man is, and it's not Sanders.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
128. You simply take it as given that the photographer himself is wrong.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:43 PM
Feb 2016

On what basis do you discredit his statement?

R B Garr

(16,964 posts)
138. I watched Sanders' spokesperson Tad Devine on
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:05 AM
Feb 2016

Chris Matthews show. He was not convincing. You should watch it.

There are a couple overlapping issues here, and the photographer isn't exactly clear in his quotes either. Several other people also said it's not him.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
146. Wow, a Sanders spokesperson hadn't studied up on all the details of a tempest in a teapot?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:46 AM
Feb 2016

You can assess credibility on any basis that seems reasonable to you -- but to me, that one seems ridiculous.

For my part, I did a cursory examination of two photos, the one in question and one that's of Rappaport, and concluded that they were two different people. I confess, though, that I haven't really focused on this "issue" (just as I haven't really focused on the details of the Clinton email server "issue&quot .

I remember that, in 2008, we had the momentous questions of whether one of Clinton's outfits showed too much cleavage, whether Edwards overpaid for a haircut, and whether Obama wrote something incriminating in a kindergarten essay. Matters don't seem to have improved in eight years.

R B Garr

(16,964 posts)
148. LOL, so you didn't watch Tad Devine. I figured you
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:05 PM
Feb 2016

just wanted to assert how superior you are.

You are superior to Sanders own spokesman. You are superior to all the ex-Alums of the University who callled in to say that the picture wasn't Sanders.

Do you even know the other point Capehart brought up about the picture?

OH, and LOL at your finish! Something somethng 2008! !
Of course!

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
82. I think it does. It seriously impacts Hillary's GE chances if she gets the nomination.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:10 PM
Feb 2016

There are a lot of people who would probably rather vote for Trump's obvious Bullcrap over Hillary's ever-more-in-your-face vile, backstabbing, deceitful method of operation.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
131. If nothing more, one of Brock's character assassins has been dispatched..
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:56 PM
Feb 2016

whatever credibility Capehart thought he enjoyed is now shot to shit.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
70. The extra photos of Bernie...
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:53 AM
Feb 2016

show indisputably that it is him in that dark sweater.

And Hillary supporters went in and CHANGED THE ARCHIVES. Think about it. Think about what that behavior means.

The slander that Bernie was not a very early leader for African American civil rights got so outrageous that persons went into the archives of the University of Chicago and changed captions on Danny Lyon’s 1962 photos, claiming it was Bruce Rappaport standing in Bernie’s clothing leading the demonstration in the Ad Building. These newly discovered pictures, including close up photographs of the student activists show us exactly what Bernie was and what he remains.


https://dektol.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/more-bernie-civil-rights-photos-found/
 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
71. Hill's shills at the Post are splintering the Democratic party
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:53 AM
Feb 2016

People aren't going to forgive this slander so easily.

bbgrunt

(5,281 posts)
75. some pushback needed against Tweety too--he featured Capehart's
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:58 AM
Feb 2016

allegations on his "debate analysis" right after the debate. Why they would allow him of all people to present opinion after the debate only shows how fugged MSNBC is.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
78. BTW, both Jon Capehart and Marc Ambinder are totally lacking credibility as journalists now--
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:02 PM
Feb 2016

how many others are going to be exposed as biased shills for the Clinton machine?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
107. And Matthews, whose show is well staffed and yet did not fact check with the photographer.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:17 PM
Feb 2016

He's running a loose ship.

Merryland

(1,134 posts)
86. Just wrote to the Washington Post about this outrageous lie.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:15 PM
Feb 2016

This is going to be one sickening campaign as the establishment looses all its military-industrial-cushy-berth-don't-change-anything cannons on Bernie Sanders.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
92. While his lies demonstrate comtempt for Bernie, the contempt that is the worst is that which is
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:32 PM
Feb 2016

aimed at those Capehart is lying to. His own readers he lies to.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
105. I just read a bunch of his Twitter feed, I don't use nor really care for Twitter but I was shocked
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:08 PM
Feb 2016

by his nonstop promoting of this 'story', over and over for hours on end. His smears are also aimed at Lyons, because he's just saying Lyons is lying or that his word does not count as much Capehart's. Capehart was born in 1967, he does not remember any of this. Lyons took the photo.
The photographer should have been the very first person asked by any journalist or pundit who had questions about the photos. The photographer's word should be the final word. The fact that people promoted this story without checking with Lyons is pretty damning.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
108. Ugh. How can he be so dishonest?
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:17 PM
Feb 2016

I don't use Twitter either and I don't have the stomach to go read his tweets.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
97. Capehart has actually done us a favor. He opened my eyes.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:46 PM
Feb 2016

Up till now, I was merely "meh" about Hillary. Now I'm incensed about the dirty tricks and the actual changing of an archive.

Out comes the credit card. Another donation to Bernie.

CharlotteVale

(2,717 posts)
98. I emailed him (since I don't do Twitter) for all the good it'll probably do.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:48 PM
Feb 2016

I c/p'ed the article into my email. My own comments were polite and very brief.

But it wouldn't surprise if he goes after Bernie supporters for daring to correct him in his next column.

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
104. Tweety/Capehart also physically mocked Sanders..
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:04 PM
Feb 2016

A very juvenile, unbecoming display of pettiness, trying to imitate the way he uses his hands
The redheaded "journalist" on the panel called him pathetic
They called Tad DeVine a liar.
It was utterly unbelievable

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
111. LOL. Well, a prominent black journalist just mocked a white Senator
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:31 PM
Feb 2016

WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE?! I'm tweeting Capehart as we speak.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
106. I was surprised at Capehart's lack of professionalism last night.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:13 PM
Feb 2016

He seemed very intense and excited in his animosity toward Bernie.

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
112. Don't forget MSNBC is culpable in this also.. they
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:35 PM
Feb 2016

used their post-debate air time to call Tad DeVine a liar and to mock the Senator. Tweety was absolutely frothing over this with Capehart. I've tweeted Matthews also.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
113. Capehart just now finished more sliming on MSNBC
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:51 PM
Feb 2016

He was on there makng the same claims. He admitted that the photographer says it's Bernie, but claimed to have better info that is was Rappaport. They also were rolling the John Lewis segment that appears to call out Bernie for not being there in teh civil rights actions. Amazing crap they are throwing at a man who was indisputably there, whether it was Rappaport or Bernie, and we have the photographer's word that it was Bernie.

This is what the rest of the campaign will bring us, more of these establishment attacks.

I'll restate here your info that Capehart's romantic partner is a paid Hillary staffer. Seems quite relevant.

islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
114. there is an old prairie saying: "The best place to hide your shit...
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 02:01 PM
Feb 2016
is in a pasture full of cows. Your shit will just mix in with all theirs."

I would say the Clinton Machine has practiced and perfected this strategy for years...and most effectively. By bringing up as much crap, literal crap, as they can manufacture (for their opponent(s) to address) results in their own crap becoming obfuscated.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
126. Capehart is not backing down.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:41 PM
Feb 2016

He should not be bullied by Bernie supporters anymore than journalists should not be bullied by Trump supporters.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
129. How, exactly, is it bullying to challenge a journalist on a factually inaccurate account?
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:50 PM
Feb 2016

I'd consider bullying to be something along the lines of "and I know where your children go to school." I see nothing like that here.

People are understandably worked up over the sloppy journalism that's on display, but strong language doesn't turn substantive criticism into bullying.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
143. You're right, he should not be bullied. And he is not being bullied.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:33 AM
Feb 2016

Or by "bullied" do you mean people who you don't agree with speaking their minds with legitimate criticism of a supposed journalist?

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grasswire

(50,130 posts)
137. you can leave a facebook message on his page.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:19 PM
Feb 2016

Please do so. He's still contending it's Rappaport.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
147. Per Capehart's last Tweet: "not cut and dry"
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:53 AM
Feb 2016

For the first time, I'm going to read the next piece Caphart writes, then I'll go back to forgetting he exists.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
154. I just reread this thread in light of the many lies that have come since, currently it's that Bernie
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:02 AM
May 2016

played anti gay music at his rally. The list of fabricated smears is McCarthy like.

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