In what bizarro world does "Let's Unite" = "Be silent!"

[Bonobo]

When 99% of the people are struggling to hold on to even 40% of the wealth and resources in the country, is it wrong to recognize that we need to ally with each other in order to regain some of what is being stolen from us? From our children and their children?

[tk2kewl]

1. It also seems to mean accusing the ones you are trying to unite of being the divisive ones

[Bonobo]

3. Yes! It's fucking Orwell on steroids with Karl Rove thrown in for extra measure. nt

[dchill]

2. 1% = Too big to fail.

99% = Too small to succeed.

[BlueJazz]

4. You got that right. The 99 percent have to be aware EVERY DAY that there are those that would..

....take it all...if we let them.

[cali]

5. You got me, Bonobo

[Hortensis]

6. What is this "silenced" thing? I've seen

it in a few threads. Expressing disagreement about methods for achieving our common goals not silencing. Quite the contrary. It is discussion.

Please note that closing one's mind to claims that others have the same goals is a form of silencing. None are so deaf as those who refuse to hear. So to speak.

[Bonobo]

8. I guess what they are trying to say, as paranoid as it sounds, is that...

By saying "we should unite and not let the other side divide us by race, religion, sexual orientation, etc." they are saying "Don't stand up for issues SPECIFIC to race, religion, sexual orientation, etc."

But to take it that way represents near pathological paranoia in my mind.

[Hortensis]

16. I'm having trouble following it. So this

silencing thing is about the usual far-left inability to accept commonality with others and frustration over Bernie's relative lack of support among "minorities"? Don't bother to answer, though. I can always go back and read what lead up to this "silencing" meme (but won't).

[Bonobo]

17. I think you already got it. nt

[Hortensis]

21. Oh, good. Thanks!

[bravenak]

7. When the solution to racism is money

[Bonobo]

9. What is Hillary's solution to racism as POTUS? nt

[NobodyHere]

10. She's going to give the racists a good talking to.

[Jester Messiah]

25. Yep, she'll tell 'em to cut it out! [nt]

[Dr. Strange]

29. I wonder if we'll get to see THOSE transcripts?

[TCJ70]

11. I think it has something to do with maintaining an imperfect relationship...

...or something. At least that's what uponit told us the other day...

[Iggy Knorr]

13. hand wave, point and smile, give platitudes

Work with the prison lobby.

http://www.democracynow.org/2016/2/9/hillary_clinton_the_mass_incarceration_machine

[bravenak]

14. Legislation and signing statements and community outreach

[Bonobo]

15. She's going to legislate away racism?

Didn't you say somewhere that you were a skeptic and a realist?

[bravenak]

19. Voting rights

Takes legislation. Cannot fix racism but we can legislate against some effects of it. Like we did with the civil rights act. Will take many years but it has to be started on now. Get a dialog going I think she cAn at least do that.

[Bonobo]

23. Voting rights?

THAT is how racism will die? Are you serious?

Can you be a little more specific? I mean, this is not a minor issue for you, I know. So you must have given it a LOT of thought.

Please share with me your specific ideas for legislation (ideas only are fine!) you expect from Hillary but not from Bernie that will contribute to the lessening of racism.

I'm frankly just surprised that you you don't attach any value to providing more income equity to oppressed people as being an important factor in easing the "effects of racism" but you bring up voting rights as something that would.

Weird.

[bravenak]

26. Actually dealing with us one on one to ask us what we think is needed

[Bonobo]

28. "If that's how you feel, I'll just talk to white people!" -HRC, 2015

Bernie talks to black people one on one too. But you know that.

Anyway, what ideas for legislation do you have? Besides the whole "she talks to us one on one" thing.

I know you've had a lot of time to think about this, so I'm pumped to hear these ideas that show how Hillary will defeat racism in ways Bernie won't.

So far we have:

-Some vague thing about voting rights
-Some vague thing about community outreach
-Some vaguer thing about executive order

And last but not least, "the talking to us one by one" thing.

I can see why you are so behind her now.

[bravenak]

31. She was correct in the context until the question was clarified

It is called 'conversing'.

Bernie is all about money. That does not move me.

[Bonobo]

34. It's been fun, Bravey. Bed time in this hemisphere.

Don't think you sound all that skeptical OR realistic today though.

[bravenak]

36. Im sick, it is what it is. Goodnight!

[Arazi]

18. Signing statements? You'll be satisfied with that???

Legislation with this Congress??

Community outreach? Sanders actually has a plan for that.

After all the ink you've virtually spilled here, you'd settle for these ?

[bravenak]

20. Sanders plan has nothing to do with us

She involves US in her PLANNING

[Arazi]

22. I am so glad you put this post up

Really

[Bonobo]

24. Oh, involved in the planning!

Got it!!

You're like totally part of the team!

[bravenak]

27. We will never be part of his team

[Bonobo]

30. Now you really sound sad/mad.

So your skeptical realism is telling you that you and Hillary are on the same team.

That's heartwarming but pretty fucking laughable at the same time.

[Arazi]

32. I'm still giggling here...

[bravenak]

33. You sound much madder

I'm just sick with a fever

[Bonobo]

35. Are you kidding? I'm having a blast on this sub-thread. nt

[bravenak]

37. Oh good. I like you.

[Bonobo]

38. And you're one of the toughest, smartest, most formidable people here.

Anytime I can even sorta stand toe to toe with you, I know I did good.

Thank god you're sick.

[bravenak]

39. Thank you , B.

Don't stay up all night! We have more fights scheduled manana!

[Iggy Knorr]

12. in the "underground"

Yes clearly it's divisive to call for unity.

in other news East is West, Citizen.