3 Pinocchios for Sanders’s claim that Clinton wouldn’t meet ‘our enemies’

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Bernie Sanders's claim that Hillary Clinton objected to meeting with 'our enemies' = 3 Pinocchios http://wpo.st/ft3B1 @Hillary2016 #p2



During the sixth Democratic debate, the senator from Vermont revisited the issue of whether a U.S. president should meet unconditionally with countries considered adversaries.

By Glenn KesslerFact Checker3 hours ago



3 Pinocchios for Sanders’s claim that Clinton wouldn’t meet ‘our enemies’




The Pinocchio Test

Sanders stated that Clinton in that debate opposed any discussions with “our enemies.” But, in fact, she objected to any presidential meetings in the first year without preconditions, as she correctly stated. Moreover, as she noted, the approach Clinton outlined in the campaign turned out to be the one used by the Obama administration.

Obama did not meet with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad after he took office, though he did give U.S. diplomats more freedom to meet with Iranian officials than under the George W. Bush administration. A phone call between Obama and Iranian President Hassan Rouhani did not take place until 2013, when the two sides were deep in negotiations over Iran’s nuclear program. In other words, preconditions were set — and met — before a high-level conversation.

Similarly, Obama did not have a substantive meeting with Cuban President Raul Castro (in 2015) until the two countries reached an agreement on normalizing relations, which included the release of an American detainee.

Obama and Rouhani have never met, but that has not stopped opponents of Obama’s diplomacy from photoshopping images of an alleged meeting.

Sanders earns Three Pinocchios. Clinton and Obama differed over whether to set preconditions, not about meeting with enemies. And it turns out that once in office, Obama followed the course suggested by Clinton, abandoning his earlier position as unrealistic..................




And another Tweet swirling around:

Livia Polise ?@liviapolise 15m15 minutes ago

Hillary is raising funds for Democrats up and down the ballot. #MarchWithHer

[NurseJackie]

1. This keeps happening. Why?

[riversedge]

3. I believe he did this boo boo during one of the previous debates also

[thesquanderer]

2. OTOH, there's "Clinton Calling for Negotiating with Iran without Preconditions 2007"

see http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511213913

where she says exactly what she said Bernie was wrong about during the debate.

And as for your other point, Sanders has also done fundraising for the Democratic party... and you were are on him about that, too!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511183521

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't...

BTW, unless I'm mistaken, that "victory fund" only kicks in once people have already donated the maximum amount possible to Hillary's campaign. That particular approach to fundraising for the party might not be so effective for a candidate whose average contribution is $27...