Bernie wins! We owe millennials an apology

[Red Oak]

"In light of Bernie Sanders' crushing victory in New Hampshire Tuesday night, it seems like more of the political pundits are starting to finally figure out the source of his surging strength in the polls. In a word, it's millennials. The Sanders victory also means that those pundits, and just about everybody else, owe those millennials a big fat apology.

Here's why: Many of us assumed that younger voters supported Barack Obama in 2008 because he was the younger and flashier candidate. Now we know that was wrong and it is a lot more about economics than cosmetics.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/10/bernie-wins-we-owe-millenials-an-apology-election-commentary.html

Jake Novak , CNBC

[raging moderate]

1. Thank you, Millennials! From a Baby Boomer

As a group, you are so much better than our group was! You know more, you understand more, and then there is that whole technical skill set that is endemic among you! I was there, back in the sixties, and I remember. Don't be afraid, don't go back, and don't give up.

[Betty Karlson]

21. We won't go back. We have long ago decided that the 20th century is over.

And all that belongs to the 20th century should now belong to history, definitely including Third Way politics and Republican hysteria.

[7wo7rees]

26. +1000. K n R

[libdem4life]

2. That's why the polls are skewed these days. Nevada will be next.

Surprised this info comes from the MSM. It's welcome wisdom.

The young are not stupid...have not had years of brainwashing...are now deciding it's time to come out of their ennui and use the energy they have that is still, well, young and vibrant.

[msongs]

3. it's going to be freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. what's not to vote for? nt

[Red Oak]

4. Hillary?

[Aerows]

11. Nihilistic views on politics?

Giving up before you even thought about going to the polls?

Being free is being free to vote for whoever you damn well please to vote for, shrugging off old fogey ideology that says "This is the way it is, and it must stay this way."

Oh hey, I'm a Gen-X. I am not invested in any of the above, because my generation got the finances and life sucked out of us and we still vote for Democratic candidates.

We just don't vote for the ones the fogeys want us to vote for:

Exhibit A:



That gentleman was repeatedly told that he could not win. That he was too "radical".

He was so damn radical that he got elected twice.

Exhibit B:



This man is repeatedly told that he cannot win. He is too "Radical".

He's so damn radical that he tied the "shoo-in" in Iowa, and bested the inevitable candidate by over 20% in NH.

Knocking the Gen-Xers and the Millennials down is going to take a hell of a lot more grunt that the folks that just sit back and criticize have to offer. I think all of us know it will take a lot of energy to combat the "you are lazy because you won't vote for the inevitable, and you want to ride a unicorn".

The fact is, however, that we have a shit load more energy than the people that are griping about how it cannot be done - we are not only ignoring the naysayers, we are busy doing what needs to be done.

Get out of the way if you don't want to move forward, and don't cry if dust gets in your hair and on your clothes. That's because we left you behind.

[Akamai]

23. Amen a thousand times! Go Bernie!!!

[bettyellen]

34. well said!!

[JoeyT]

22. That's funny. That's exactly what Republicans say about African Americans supporting Democrats.

It's definitely an odd sentiment to express on a Democratic message board.

[malokvale77]

33. "Obviously Hillary cannot run on the issues"

So she needs people like you to try to demoralize the voters.

[Glamrock]

5. Translation:

We, the beltway media, have been blathering and pontificating without any criticism (bloggers still don't count. We'll never respect them) for so long, we are completely clueless as to the political realities on the ground in this election. Furthermore, during the process of self-fellating, we managed to get our heads shoved so far up our asses that we expected not just Hillary to glide to the nomination, but Jeb! too. So we apologize, millenials. But just so you know, there's no way America would elect a socialist. And we would know.

[Live and Learn]

6. Yep, millennials are well aware that they are getting screwed. nt

[delrem]

7. I owe them, and all of us, a vote of thanks and happiness.

This - movement - makes me very hopeful for a new and better establishment.

[rhett o rick]

8. People supported Obama because he promised change and Clinton promised more of

Wall Street corruption. But we were fooled by Obama. He lied about change.

[delrem]

10. People supported Obama because he was Obama.

I am still very enamored of Obama - I think he's a good man, a smart man, and he has a wonderful uplifting family.
He and his family impress me more than the Kennedy's.

To be sure, the day started with a dash of cold water.
He didn't have the support of his own party!!
He had majorities that allowed themselves to be filibustered to death.
So nothing, not a damn thing, went through.

That is not on Obama. That's on the Democratic party. He had to deal with it.

His one and only mistake was to take Hillary Clinton on board as SOS.
Her fucking private email server hid her work from HIM.
She put him out of the loop.
Grok that, why don't you?

She's a wonder worker, that one.

[rhett o rick]

25. I like Pres Obama and think he is a refreshing change as a personality for our president and first

family.

However, his promises as candidate were lies told to distinguish him from Clinton. Immediately after being elected he went back to being as conservative as Clinton. All of his many appointments were conservatives. He kept the same NSA/CIA Secret policies as Bush/Cheney. He kept the same economic team as Bush/Cheney. He has essentially normalized torture by not at least condemning it. His choice of AG was a joke, a bad joke for the people. Concentrated on throwing medical marijuana distributors in the Prisons For Profits and ignoring Wall Street crime. He is keeping Gov Steigelman in prison for some reason that smells rotten. Drone killings, which even Bush was against, is all Obama. Over 100 innocent victims are murdered by terror from the sky for every suspected terrorist killed. Drone killing meets the very definition of terrorism.

[delrem]

28. I just want to help bring your focus back to the primary,

and to the actual opponent, and away from an attack on Obama, because this is NOT the time for that.
Surely you can see why that is.

[rhett o rick]

29. The OP was providing speculation as to why younger people supported Obama.

I think it's important in this election. We voted for Change in 2008 and are still supporting Change now. Clinton represents "No Change".

[delrem]

31. Yet you're aware of...

I guess not.
Well, fuckit. So continue to go there.

[HooptieWagon]

9. Finally a pundit gets it.

Hooray for the Millenials!
-from a Boomer

Edit...the rest of the article not so kind...more youth-bashing. FU Jake, the Millenials will prove you wrong.

[delrem]

12. Re. your edit, I think a *lot* of people are behind the curve

on what is at stake in this Democratic primary.

My lord, that the population has to be educated on the meaning of the term 'democratic socialist', so as to distinguish it from 'communist', is appalling.

Is nothing taught in elementary school civics?

[HooptieWagon]

14. Saw a good exchange on fb today.

"Your iPhone was made by Capitalism"
"No, it was made by LABOR. The -ism just determines who gets paid"

[delrem]

16. Investment capital doesn't give a flying fuck about the lives of "labor".

It benefits by fucking labor over, so at this it does a fucking good job.
What it aspires to is to replace the drone operators with drones.

I wonder what the world would be like, if it were within the realm of the possible that investment capital be regulated, so it's reigned in to some degree?

Nah, I'm just kidding. What we're into is free trade agreements which ensure the rights of investment capital, with specific legislation, and which shrug off everything else in flowery, not legal, language. We're into electing leaders who made millions arguing in favor of such trade agreements in places like Columbia, while weaseling the agreements into place in Washington DC.

[HooptieWagon]

18. The problem with Free Trade...

...is that it gives Capital the freedom to relocate to maximum advantage.... However, labor is restricted from relocating due to immigration laws.

[delrem]

20. These agreements also give investment capital enormous property rights.

Rights to natural resources, and so on down the line.
These agreements carve out the world.

[Marr]

15. Yes. Literally nothing-- because there is no elementary school civics anymore.

Very much by design, I'd say.

[delrem]

19. Hurm. Not a good sign. It's at that age that people learn their best.

That's when they're first becoming their potential.

If children aren't taught well, given the best all around education, it's a problem for their communities to address - because it is their children and their future.
I vote for community empowerment.

[jfern]

13. Maybe they just know how to use Google better

[Downwinder]

17. Feels a lot like 1960.

[Le Taz Hot]

24. Who's "we?"

I started recognizing their power this summer when the Bernie campaign started in earnest in the summer. I was in L.A. in August and saw a SEA of millennials, saw how smart they were and how they OWNED social media and knew they would be a force. And they have been.

[7wo7rees]

27. Agree Taz, but GenX and old hippie boomers get a

little credit.

I believe it has a lot to do with OWS going forward.

[Le Taz Hot]

30. Oh, hell yes!

It's just that there's so damned many of the little suckers!

[7wo7rees]

32. And that makes my heart be glad!!

Hope springs eternal.....

Oh, and that just gives us so many more to pass our torches on to.

Also Jake can take his "we" and share it with all his fellow talking heads, pundits, spokespersons, etc, and shove it!