2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Could Lose Nevada Because Of Her Call To Deport Refugee Children from Central America
Last August, Hillary lamely tried to defend this action:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-child-migrants_us_55d4a5c5e4b055a6dab24c2f
This is appalling, and as Sanders pointed out during the last debate, The U.S. should never use the most vulnerable children to send a message. EVER.
Last summer, when politicians from both parties were making statements that these children were not refugees, that these children all needed to be sent home, my agency was busy speaking with these children, Ryan told HuffPost. The same statements that Clinton made last summer are the same statements being made to legitimize the family detention that she is now apparently against. Whether its [Republican presidential candidate] Mr. [Donald] Trump or Mrs. Clinton, these knee-jerk statements dont do anything to protect children, and they certainly dont do anything to protect vulnerable refugees.
So, when the 3 am call came w.r.t. refugee children, Hillary made the wrong choice again! Bad Judgment Hillary!
Given that Hillary's campaign falsely labeled the state as mostly white in attempting to set expectations as her Firewall crumbles, I suspect her stance on deporting refugee children has at least something to do with it.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Remind me again how she's always stood up for women and children?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)that's for sure.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)oh wait.
Immigration!
oh wait.
Women's Rights!
oh wait.
Minimum Wage!
oh wait.
hmmmm
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)they aren't being thrown out of airplanes this time.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)she looked heartless, cruel and arrogant beyond belief
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)That was the most heartless statement of the night.
Bernie, being the gentleman he is, resisted cussing her out. A lesser man, say me, would have let her have it.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)She lost it last Tuesday. Bern Baby Bern!
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)So be it, let them take aim and fire! They can, no matter how much poo is flung at me, hurt me, unlike those poor children wil be hurt and killed by Clinton and others like her/
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1248679
Note to Clinton - next time you want to "send a message" send a grown-up messenger in the form of a volunteer willing to die for you, or better yet, I hear that ink on paper is often more legible than blood on small innocent bodies.
Only mobsters, kidnappers and sociopaths "send a message" via bodies or body parts, something to chew on while you sit in front of perfectly good stationary and holding a working pen (one hopes not a pen filled with blood rather than ink, after all, you only needed to sign that one document with the devil with that pen)
I also notice that messages sent involving "diplomacy" as you would call it nearly always involve bodies and blood, which reminds me, those cluster bombs being used in the middle east, are they from among the inventory of weapons sold based on checks to your foundation?
/rant
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)She's 'evolving'.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)thereismore
(13,326 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)renate
(13,776 posts)If I could I would welcome any and all who were trying to escape horrible violence in their home countries, so I would never have supported sending them back... but the US was between a rock and a hard place because parents kept sending their kids here (possibly getting raped or kidnapped along the way) because that kind of horror was just a little bit less than what they were living through at home. It really was a terrible situation--like the Syrians who need to leave Syria to survive, but run the very real risk of dying in the attempt.
Republicans might have been "sucks to be you" but I don't think Hillary's motives were evil, just pragmatic, and not even in a "not our problem" way--she wanted parents to stop trying to get their kids out without them.
That was my understanding, anyway.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)You don't deport them back to a dangerous country just to make a fucking point.
renate
(13,776 posts)I apologize for not being clear. Sending kids back to make a point would have been horrible, and I don't think Hillary would have ever supported that, but I think the goal was to reduce the number of kids being sent on such a dangerous and often fatal journey. (I can't bear to think of what happened to some of the kids who were sent off alone. I know their parents were doing what they thought was best--and maybe it was, considering where they came from--but some of those kids must have suffered unspeakable fates.)
I think it would have been a better solution to keep the kids who'd made it, and put out fake news stories saying that kids were being sent back. That would have been humane to the ones who'd gotten here, while keeping unprotected and unaccompanied kids with their parents.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)From the article:
amborin
(16,631 posts)and listen to her disparaging "illegal immigrants":
and brag about how she voted many times to build a wall: