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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:00 PM Feb 2016

Hillary Could Lose Nevada Because Of Her Call To Deport Refugee Children from Central America

Last August, Hillary lamely tried to defend this action:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-child-migrants_us_55d4a5c5e4b055a6dab24c2f

Speaking at a press conference in Las Vegas on Tuesday, the former secretary of state and candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination said that deporting the children, many of whom are seeking asylum, would send a “responsible message” that would deter Central American families from sending their children to the United States.


This is appalling, and as Sanders pointed out during the last debate, The U.S. should never use the most vulnerable children to send a message. EVER.

Virtually all the unaccompanied minors who crossed into the United States from the violence- and poverty-plagued Central American countries of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras last year can make a credible claim for humanitarian relief under U.S. law, according to Jonathan Ryan, the executive director for RAICES, a Texas nonprofit that coordinates pro bono representation for immigrants.

“Last summer, when politicians from both parties were making statements that these children were not refugees, that these children all needed to be sent home, my agency was busy speaking with these children,” Ryan told HuffPost. “The same statements that Clinton made last summer are the same statements being made to legitimize the family detention that she is now apparently against. Whether it’s [Republican presidential candidate] Mr. [Donald] Trump or Mrs. Clinton, these knee-jerk statements don’t do anything to protect children, and they certainly don’t do anything to protect vulnerable refugees.”


So, when the 3 am call came w.r.t. refugee children, Hillary made the wrong choice again! Bad Judgment Hillary!

Given that Hillary's campaign falsely labeled the state as mostly white in attempting to set expectations as her Firewall crumbles, I suspect her stance on deporting refugee children has at least something to do with it.



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Hillary Could Lose Nevada Because Of Her Call To Deport Refugee Children from Central America (Original Post) berni_mccoy Feb 2016 OP
And she's willing to compromise on abortion. SheilaT Feb 2016 #1
On what issues does she stand behind the 99% over the 1%?? nm rhett o rick Feb 2016 #4
Nothing comes immediately to mind SheilaT Feb 2016 #6
TPP! berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #13
don't worry about this. Kissinger has her back. At least roguevalley Feb 2016 #14
That really was a very bad moment in the debates Arazi Feb 2016 #2
Send them back, she said RobertEarl Feb 2016 #12
This didn't lose Nevada for Hillary Politicalboi Feb 2016 #3
There's no $$$ for Wall Street in immigrant kids n/t left-of-center2012 Feb 2016 #5
ikr?!?! berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #15
I expect to take fire for my view concerning hers when I wrote it in another thread Dragonfli Feb 2016 #7
It's an improvement over cluster-bombing them. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #8
Oh, she was just having a kindly abuela moment. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #9
She is not their abuela, apparently. nt thereismore Feb 2016 #10
K&R Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #11
but in fairness, wasn't the point to discourage people from sending their kids on a dangerous trip? renate Feb 2016 #16
Wtf! These were children who were here! berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #17
of course not! renate Feb 2016 #19
She called for their deportation! berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #20
she is heartless & cruel; listen to her cold tone of voice sending kids back to violence: amborin Feb 2016 #18
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
1. And she's willing to compromise on abortion.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:01 PM
Feb 2016

Remind me again how she's always stood up for women and children?

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
14. don't worry about this. Kissinger has her back. At least
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 06:41 PM
Feb 2016

they aren't being thrown out of airplanes this time.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
2. That really was a very bad moment in the debates
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:02 PM
Feb 2016

she looked heartless, cruel and arrogant beyond belief

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
12. Send them back, she said
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 04:57 PM
Feb 2016

That was the most heartless statement of the night.

Bernie, being the gentleman he is, resisted cussing her out. A lesser man, say me, would have let her have it.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
7. I expect to take fire for my view concerning hers when I wrote it in another thread
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:13 PM
Feb 2016

So be it, let them take aim and fire! They can, no matter how much poo is flung at me, hurt me, unlike those poor children wil be hurt and killed by Clinton and others like her/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1248679

At least the message we are sending to Washington is bloodless, unlike the messages Clinton sends to South America which is to be delivered via the death, mutilation and slavery of children.

Note to Clinton - next time you want to "send a message" send a grown-up messenger in the form of a volunteer willing to die for you, or better yet, I hear that ink on paper is often more legible than blood on small innocent bodies.

Only mobsters, kidnappers and sociopaths "send a message" via bodies or body parts, something to chew on while you sit in front of perfectly good stationary and holding a working pen (one hopes not a pen filled with blood rather than ink, after all, you only needed to sign that one document with the devil with that pen)

I also notice that messages sent involving "diplomacy" as you would call it nearly always involve bodies and blood, which reminds me, those cluster bombs being used in the middle east, are they from among the inventory of weapons sold based on checks to your foundation?

/rant

renate

(13,776 posts)
16. but in fairness, wasn't the point to discourage people from sending their kids on a dangerous trip?
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:18 PM
Feb 2016

If I could I would welcome any and all who were trying to escape horrible violence in their home countries, so I would never have supported sending them back... but the US was between a rock and a hard place because parents kept sending their kids here (possibly getting raped or kidnapped along the way) because that kind of horror was just a little bit less than what they were living through at home. It really was a terrible situation--like the Syrians who need to leave Syria to survive, but run the very real risk of dying in the attempt.

Republicans might have been "sucks to be you" but I don't think Hillary's motives were evil, just pragmatic, and not even in a "not our problem" way--she wanted parents to stop trying to get their kids out without them.

That was my understanding, anyway.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
17. Wtf! These were children who were here!
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:53 PM
Feb 2016

You don't deport them back to a dangerous country just to make a fucking point.

renate

(13,776 posts)
19. of course not!
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 12:28 AM
Feb 2016

I apologize for not being clear. Sending kids back to make a point would have been horrible, and I don't think Hillary would have ever supported that, but I think the goal was to reduce the number of kids being sent on such a dangerous and often fatal journey. (I can't bear to think of what happened to some of the kids who were sent off alone. I know their parents were doing what they thought was best--and maybe it was, considering where they came from--but some of those kids must have suffered unspeakable fates.)

I think it would have been a better solution to keep the kids who'd made it, and put out fake news stories saying that kids were being sent back. That would have been humane to the ones who'd gotten here, while keeping unprotected and unaccompanied kids with their parents.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
20. She called for their deportation!
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 12:32 AM
Feb 2016

From the article:

"Hillary Clinton this week defended her call to deport children from the U.S. who are fleeing violence in Central America"

amborin

(16,631 posts)
18. she is heartless & cruel; listen to her cold tone of voice sending kids back to violence:
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 12:07 AM
Feb 2016


and listen to her disparaging "illegal immigrants":



and brag about how she voted many times to build a wall:

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