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Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:19 PM Feb 2016

Holy crap! Odds of Clinton nomination now at 93%!

Nominee:
HRC - 93%
Sanders - 7%

President:
HRC - 58%
Trump - 24%
Rubio - 12%
Sanders - 4%

And for a bonus all odds of 90% or better for either candidate in upcoming primaries:

Clinton:
South Carolina - 99%
Alabama - 98%
Arkansas - 98%
Georgia - 98%
Tennessee - 96%
Texas - 98%
Virginia - 96%
Louisiana - 96%

Sanders:
Vermont - 99%

http://predictwise.com

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Holy crap! Odds of Clinton nomination now at 93%! (Original Post) Godhumor Feb 2016 OP
Thats even odds! OMG!!!! nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #1
"It's virtual tie!!!!" KingFlorez Feb 2016 #2
So You Say There's Chance! Stallion Feb 2016 #55
A virtual tie. She's totally unelectable. Nobody likes her! NurseJackie Feb 2016 #3
Speeches! Wall Street! nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #4
Oligarchs! Banksters! Corporatist!! NurseJackie Feb 2016 #8
Scriptghazi!!!!11!1!1!1 vdogg Feb 2016 #53
52-51, pledged delegates. The only number that matters. morningfog Feb 2016 #17
...until tomorrow, right? brooklynite Feb 2016 #35
The number won't be 52-51 tomorrow, you are correct. morningfog Feb 2016 #38
Independents don't like her. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #73
That won't be a problem for them until after the election.... daleanime Feb 2016 #78
I've already prepped my family. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #85
So your friends are all in with Trump in the GE? redstateblues Feb 2016 #79
No. They're LIBERAL. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #84
BERNIE got more VOTES than anyone in NEW HAMPSHIRE EVER! wyldwolf Feb 2016 #5
He can be president of New Hampshire! eom yawnmaster Feb 2016 #56
Dorothy-We Aren't in New Hampshire Any More Stallion Feb 2016 #57
Nice! Thankie. Lucinda Feb 2016 #6
What do you think the odds wiil be after her virtual sweep on super Tuesday? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #7
95%+ March 2, 98 or 99% on March 16 n/t Godhumor Feb 2016 #10
What do you consider a virtual sweep? How many states? Total delegate breakdown? morningfog Feb 2016 #20
I am out the door... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #22
So, 4 to 1 on delegate count? 678-169? morningfog Feb 2016 #29
Considering anything above a 90 spread will be virtually impossible for Bernie to make up Godhumor Feb 2016 #43
That's what they don't get MaggieD Feb 2016 #47
Um... Vermont. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #74
Vermont has 16 delegates up for grabs MaggieD Feb 2016 #80
She won't win them all. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #90
K&R! stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #9
odds of ever being president: zero. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #11
I thought the zero was the odds of releasing the transcripts? casperthegm Feb 2016 #12
Civics- the FBI investigates. The DOJ prosecutes. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #16
Agreed -> investigation leads to indictment (via the DOJ) casperthegm Feb 2016 #26
I have no animus toward Senator Sanders. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #37
glad to hear that casperthegm Feb 2016 #50
No way in hell Loretta Lynch indicts the democratic nominee vdogg Feb 2016 #54
Respectfully, sir or madame, that's not what the data indicates DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #13
hi dsb, i don't tend to go to the predictive markets restorefreedom Feb 2016 #24
Okey dokey, my fiend. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #27
trump or sanders will be the president restorefreedom Feb 2016 #34
Or 58%...vs 4% for Bernie n/t Godhumor Feb 2016 #14
no way she is getting past trump restorefreedom Feb 2016 #28
Trump has a 60% disapproval rating MaggieD Feb 2016 #48
and almost everyone in america thinks restorefreedom Feb 2016 #52
Actually, no - her approval rating is about 13% higher than Trump's MaggieD Feb 2016 #61
among dems, not indys. most indys will not vote for her. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #66
Sure they will MaggieD Feb 2016 #68
it might. but in a very strong antiestablishment year, restorefreedom Feb 2016 #71
She'll crush him. grossproffit Feb 2016 #62
alrighty. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author wyldwolf Feb 2016 #15
'progresssiiivvesss' have their fingers crossed. wyldwolf Feb 2016 #18
Doesn't HIllary consider herself a progressive? Do you? morningfog Feb 2016 #21
Progressivism and pragmatism aren't mutually exclusive DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #25
That poster has a habit of denigrated and questioning progressives, as though they are not one. morningfog Feb 2016 #36
I am going to be late... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #41
yes, just not "progressive" (see my sig line) wyldwolf Feb 2016 #33
No true Scotsman. morningfog Feb 2016 #44
she will do herself in. no finger crossing required restorefreedom Feb 2016 #31
Thats a virtual tie!!! ZOMG!! nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #19
So much this. draa Feb 2016 #46
true, and very very sad. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #51
Assuming that's true mythology Feb 2016 #64
That's not true. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #77
Is it any wonder. draa Feb 2016 #86
Yep. If she's the nominee, I'm gone. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #76
Really? Beacool Feb 2016 #82
just my opinion, but yeah, really. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #83
But what about the online polls??!? MaggieD Feb 2016 #23
Hmm... if the race-fixing bookies think so whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #30
Race fixing bookies? taught_me_patience Feb 2016 #75
Bewildering it is why Godhumor thinks that Herman4747 Feb 2016 #32
Still don't think you quite get how PredictWise works Godhumor Feb 2016 #45
And what they're aggregating is a bunch of garbage!! Herman4747 Feb 2016 #49
I'm sure this makes The Donald estatic. Sinistrous Feb 2016 #39
Predictive Market Traders give Trump a 24% chance vs Bernie's of 4% Godhumor Feb 2016 #42
On DU, that means Sanders is clearly the frontrunner! Lil Missy Feb 2016 #40
NOT "HOLY CRAP", JUST CRAP Impedimentus Feb 2016 #58
Has Any One Informed H.A. (Ha! Ha!) Goodman of this Development? Stallion Feb 2016 #59
... Alfresco Feb 2016 #60
Why even have primaries or elections anymore. madfloridian Feb 2016 #63
Wake up and smell the coffee gang. oasis Feb 2016 #65
If so, we are doomed. hifiguy Feb 2016 #69
Looks like its neck and neck to me. zappaman Feb 2016 #70
K&R Number23 Feb 2016 #72
An aggregate of betting markets? Well, we all know gamblers never lose. Loudestlib Feb 2016 #81
Wonder what the odds are... dchill Feb 2016 #87
Uh oh-release more transcript OP's! great white snark Feb 2016 #88
"Get in line Bernie supporters, dammit!" AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #89
 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
38. The number won't be 52-51 tomorrow, you are correct.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:43 PM
Feb 2016

That count will still be the only one that matters. HIllary will take the lead, no doubt about it. But, the race is, and will be then still, far from over.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
73. Independents don't like her.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:41 PM
Feb 2016

She will lose the general election.

You couldn't pay anyone I know to vote for her. I literally know NO ONE who will vote for her and all my friends are liberal.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
78. That won't be a problem for them until after the election....
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:47 PM
Feb 2016

when, if she doesn't win, it will be our fault some how.

All we can do is work and hope she doesn't make it out of the primary.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
85. I've already prepped my family.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:22 PM
Feb 2016

The next two weeks will be BRUTAL for Bernie in the media. He'll lose in the South, where I live, but I've started pointing out to my Bernie friends and family that it really shouldn't matter. While delegates are split, Electoral College votes aren't and no Democrat is going to win the vast majority of Southern states in the general. Just pick up some delegates and move on. This will pass.

Once the election goes North and West, Bernie will pull back up. Just bear down, don't get discouraged and keep fighting.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
84. No. They're LIBERAL.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:19 PM
Feb 2016

Most will vote Green. There may be a few who vote for her, but more will just give up on the two-party system as most liberals are.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
22. I am out the door...
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:34 PM
Feb 2016

If it was a football game I suspect it would be on the magnitude of The Chicago Bears Super Bowl XX win.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
29. So, 4 to 1 on delegate count? 678-169?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:39 PM
Feb 2016

If Hillary walks away with 4 delegates for every 1 of Bernie's on Super Tuesday, that would be a virtual sweep, I agree.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
43. Considering anything above a 90 spread will be virtually impossible for Bernie to make up
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:50 PM
Feb 2016

I'm going to say that current projections for SC, ST and beyond more than qualify for a virtual sweep as things stand now.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
47. That's what they don't get
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:57 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie has no upcoming blow outs to make up for what is going to happen in the next 10 days. None. It is essentially over for him after that. Whether he drops out or not. Thats why he only hired people through Mid March.

casperthegm

(643 posts)
12. I thought the zero was the odds of releasing the transcripts?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:31 PM
Feb 2016

Wonder what her odds would be if the ongoing FBI investigation results in and indictment.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
16. Civics- the FBI investigates. The DOJ prosecutes.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:32 PM
Feb 2016

There will be no indictment and the GOP wet dream will remain just that.

casperthegm

(643 posts)
26. Agreed -> investigation leads to indictment (via the DOJ)
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:38 PM
Feb 2016

Unless you know someone within the FBI or DOJ you can't make that claim. Well, you can, but you have no basis for it. The odds may be against it- I really don't know. Does anyone really? But considering how Sanders has shown better judgement on every topic of debate I'm hoping that people will realize that it's too risky to take a chance on Clinton and vote for the candidate with the better record.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
37. I have no animus toward Senator Sanders.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:42 PM
Feb 2016

I can say with reasonable certainty that it is highly unlikely Secretary Clinton will be indicted...

This is the way I see it... Almost every Democratic former prosecutor says she won't be indicted...Almost every Republican former prosecutor wants to hang her...Who controls the DOJ?

casperthegm

(643 posts)
50. glad to hear that
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:26 PM
Feb 2016

I wish I could say the same for HRC. Guess you are more forgiving than I am, so a tip of the hat to you in that regard.

I see your point regarding the current state of the DOJ, though I don't know if I'd call that an unbiased position on their part if politics played a role in what "should" be a unbiased inquiry. I suppose I am too idealistic when it comes to the law. Thanks for the conversation.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
54. No way in hell Loretta Lynch indicts the democratic nominee
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:34 PM
Feb 2016

The justice department is an independent agency, but she still serves at the pleasure of the president. I don't think Hillary has done anything indictable anyway, as the emails were classified after the fact, but this is the reality of the situation.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
24. hi dsb, i don't tend to go to the predictive markets
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:37 PM
Feb 2016

who have a vested interest in maintining status quo, for my info

but that might just be me.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
52. and almost everyone in america thinks
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:28 PM
Feb 2016

hillary is an opoortunistic liar who favors wall st.

get used to saying "president trump"

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
71. it might. but in a very strong antiestablishment year,
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:56 PM
Feb 2016

with one candidate anti E and one candidate the E personified, if their negatives cancel each other out, which one has the edge?

also, as many have pointed out, turnout on dem side is not super high, while the repubs are setting records for turnout.

even with all other things being equal, THAT is what is going to destroy the election for the dems.

turnout.

Response to restorefreedom (Reply #11)

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
25. Progressivism and pragmatism aren't mutually exclusive
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:38 PM
Feb 2016

Progressivism and pragmatism aren't mutually exclusive and a prudent person wouldn't pit one against the other.

I am an utopian who likes to get things done.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
36. That poster has a habit of denigrated and questioning progressives, as though they are not one.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:41 PM
Feb 2016

Seeking clarification.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
41. I am going to be late...
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:45 PM
Feb 2016

For reference I pull -7s on the Political Compass.. . That puts me to the left of Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama. However I take man as he is and not how I would like him to be. That's where the pragmatism kicks in...


wyldwolf will be wlydwolf...

draa

(975 posts)
46. So much this.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:54 PM
Feb 2016

She has succeeded in doing one thing though. She drove more people away from the Democratic Party than any other person in history.

If Clinton is the nominee then turnout this year will make 2014 midterms look like a Democratic revolution by comparison.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
64. Assuming that's true
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:09 PM
Feb 2016

What does it say that Sanders is losing to her even with an electorate that is more favorable to Sanders than the GE will be?

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
77. That's not true.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:47 PM
Feb 2016

In a general election, Sanders would fare better because Independents like him. They don't like her. She's really only popular in the Democratic Party and, even then, she has a challenger in Bernie - maybe not in the South, but the South doesn't vote Dem in a general elections anyway.

The point is that she will really only have about 60-70 percent of 30 percent of the electorate and you can't win an election that way.

draa

(975 posts)
86. Is it any wonder.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:21 PM
Feb 2016

From the very beginning he's be marginalized by the DNC and the Democratic Party in general. They've done every thing in their power to keep his message from getting out. That's not conspiracy or hyperbole either. Just look at the string of lies about Sanders coming from that party. That's all the proof you need.

He was also unknown by all but the most rabid political followers when he entered the race. That means where Clinton has had 25+ years for people to know her, Sanders had about 9 months. And look where he's at in just that short time.

It's not that he's losing because of his message it's just that he's a relative unknown. And for what it's worth, regardless of the state to state polls, Sanders is actually leading her in much of the national polling we've seen lately so he's not really losing. In fact, he's right where Obama was in 2008 as far as polling trajectory. If Super Tuesday was that important the primary in 2008 wouldn't have went to June. Sanders will be fine.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
76. Yep. If she's the nominee, I'm gone.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:44 PM
Feb 2016

46 years old an voted for Democrats since I was 18 - and that was for Dukakis!!!

Granted, I never had to register with the party to vote since I'm in a open primary, but it will seem odd to vote Green in a national presidential election.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
23. But what about the online polls??!?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:37 PM
Feb 2016

They said he was winning in all 50 states. Damn, I feel misled now.

 

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)
32. Bewildering it is why Godhumor thinks that
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:40 PM
Feb 2016

the people who determine the odds at Predictwise are experts on American elections. These same people are betting on the Academy Awards too!!!
Are they scholars, Godhumor? If so, what universities are they associated with? Are they historians? Are they statisticians? Or are they instead ordinary "punters" as the British would say?

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
45. Still don't think you quite get how PredictWise works
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:53 PM
Feb 2016

They're not being on anything. They're aggregating predictive markets and reporting results. That includes predictive markets for politics, sports and award shows, which are all separate marketplaces.

 

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)
49. And what they're aggregating is a bunch of garbage!!
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:21 PM
Feb 2016

Actor X has a 43% chance of winning the Best Actor Award? Come on!
Please, for your own integrity, NO MORE PREDICTWISE!

Sinistrous

(4,249 posts)
39. I'm sure this makes The Donald estatic.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:44 PM
Feb 2016

His Yahoos plus the rabid repug Hillery haters plus disillusioned real Democrats not voting will weave a red carpet for him straight into the White House.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
42. Predictive Market Traders give Trump a 24% chance vs Bernie's of 4%
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:46 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary, on the other hand, is higher than every other candidate combined at 58%

Impedimentus

(898 posts)
58. NOT "HOLY CRAP", JUST CRAP
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:41 PM
Feb 2016

Yes, just more polls and betting crap. Will the poster place a $10,000 bet with a bookie on this ? Hah.

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
59. Has Any One Informed H.A. (Ha! Ha!) Goodman of this Development?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:45 PM
Feb 2016

sure would like to hear his prognostication before I can be sure

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
63. Why even have primaries or elections anymore.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:04 PM
Feb 2016

Just like the predictors and pollsters pick out the most likely to win and go from there??

dchill

(38,507 posts)
87. Wonder what the odds are...
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:23 PM
Feb 2016

That HRC makes it to the convention before being forced into dropping out. Is there a poll on that?

Didn't think so.

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