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Ivan Kaputski

(528 posts)
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 12:55 PM Mar 2016

Daily Kos Asks Clinton And Sanders Supporters For Unity

Last edited Sat Mar 5, 2016, 04:39 PM - Edit history (1)

<snip>Markos “Kos” Moulitsas, founder of the Daily Kos, a popular liberal web site, wrote a blogpost on Friday asking the site’s community of writers, readers and commenters to begin moderating their criticism of Clinton starting on March 15, in the likely event that Clinton solidifies her hold on the nomination with additional primary wins.

If Sanders does not turn the tide, Moulitsas wrote, “then on March 15 this site officially transitions to General Election footing. That means, we will focus our attention not just on Donald Trump or his rivals, but also on the Senate, the House, and state-level races.”

“If you want the most liberal government possible, we aren’t going to get that this cycle in the White House, but we can keep building the bench down the ballot so that come 2024, we have lots of great liberals to choose from,” Moulitsas added.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/daily-kos-democrats-general-election_us_56da0eebe4b0000de404c3af

Good luck with that "unity".

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Daily Kos Asks Clinton And Sanders Supporters For Unity (Original Post) Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 OP
Slams Bernie repeatedly but got the memo that they need Bernie's supporters? 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #1
Good idea, but... Mike Nelson Mar 2016 #2
I hope you're right ... salinsky Mar 2016 #3
how is asking for the right to vote seething? liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #4
It's not ... salinsky Mar 2016 #23
So what is all this talk about uniting behind Hillary as of March 15? liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #24
For me ... salinsky Mar 2016 #32
This election is about class war, the people vs the establishment with both parties. Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #6
What will "turning the tide" mean? newthinking Mar 2016 #5
That is evidence of the class war with the party establishment. Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #8
what a putz olddots Mar 2016 #7
Good luck indeed. We will all need it. Autumn Mar 2016 #9
We'll have to ask all our radicals, commies, racists, mmonk Mar 2016 #10
Please include the Putin lovers. CCCP Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #13
He has been shilling for Hillary from the start. He even laughed at and belittled Bernie regularly Snotcicles Mar 2016 #11
Can you link a couple of his articles where he shills for HRC and/or trashes Bernie? LonePirate Mar 2016 #28
What's that "2024" bullshit? tularetom Mar 2016 #12
Good luck with that BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #15
if she pulls out a squeaker Robbins Mar 2016 #16
The party estabishment represents the 1%. Both parties have the same problem. Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #18
The DNC and corporate Democrats realize that if Bernie wins BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #19
except they won't have any power Robbins Mar 2016 #21
We learned last time that they never planned to follow the populist progresive agenda Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #38
Careful what you say.... smiley Mar 2016 #17
Broken Centrist Record Armstead Mar 2016 #14
Glad to see this. riversedge Mar 2016 #20
I could easily get over petty "rah-rah team" squabbles ibegurpard Mar 2016 #22
Things are very, very different for me this Primary. HRC is completely to blame. nt stillwaiting Mar 2016 #25
ANOTHER One Bites The Dust! When Will We Ever Learn???? n/t ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #26
There is no fucking way I'm doing anything before I GET TO FUCKING VOTE. onecaliberal Mar 2016 #27
This country is one election away from going fascist (should Trump win), or at best maybe PatrickforO Mar 2016 #29
After telling one side to shut up? Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #30
It's not going over well Mnpaul Mar 2016 #31
Perfect! bbgrunt Mar 2016 #36
He can take his unity and . . . Vattel Mar 2016 #33
Fuck unity. Joe the Revelator Mar 2016 #34
...unless it's a unity of masses of people with pitch forks. Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #39
So Kos is going to be a tool for the Third Way,corporate Wall Street alliance... tokenlib Mar 2016 #35
Bernie supporters dont have time on their side PeterK Mar 2016 #37
 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
1. Slams Bernie repeatedly but got the memo that they need Bernie's supporters?
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:01 PM
Mar 2016

Fuck him. On my bus, Kos, and over the cliff with you.

Mike Nelson

(9,984 posts)
2. Good idea, but...
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:06 PM
Mar 2016

...there are Sanders supporters who will never accept Hillary. They think she's a greedy, racist, war-mongering Wall Street Republican. Fortunately, I believe that attitude is smaller than it looks on DU, where Bernie is the overwhelming favorite.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
4. how is asking for the right to vote seething?
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:10 PM
Mar 2016

We are being asked to change our vote because it would be better for the party. Well sorry I don't vote based on what is best for the party. I vote based on what is best for my family and for the country, so no I will not change my vote just so we can unify the party.

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
23. It's not ...
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:59 PM
Mar 2016

Donate, advocate, and vote your conscience.

But, when it's over, unite behind the nominee regardless of who that turns out to be, just as I will.

I'm talking about the people who are threatening to not vote if they don't get their way, or worse yet, vote for one of the Rethuglicans.

That's just stupid, immature, and self-defeating.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
24. So what is all this talk about uniting behind Hillary as of March 15?
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 02:03 PM
Mar 2016

I don't get to vote until March 26 and it is not going to be for Hillary.

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
32. For me ...
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 02:48 PM
Mar 2016

... it's just that, talk.

I love Bernie, and hope he sticks around until the nominee is determined.

He's done yeoman's work moving the conversation to where it should be, and if Hillary is the eventual nominee (as I think she will be), she'll owe him a debt of gratitude for having made her a stronger candidate.

I just hope that once we have a nominee, we can unite behind whoever it is to defeat the GOP.

 

Ivan Kaputski

(528 posts)
6. This election is about class war, the people vs the establishment with both parties.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:13 PM
Mar 2016

Because of that many Dems will either not vote or vote for a 3rd party or even vote for Rump just to burn the establishment. Of course some may argue that the Third Way is a 3rd party anyway and I would agree since today's Dem establishment would never be as it is now when FDR was in power.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
5. What will "turning the tide" mean?
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:10 PM
Mar 2016

The Superdelegates are being used as a way to disenfranchise the people's vote in the Democratic primary.
No doubt the party wants to avoid the uncomfortable situation where Bernie wins on all but the superdelegates.

 

Ivan Kaputski

(528 posts)
8. That is evidence of the class war with the party establishment.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:15 PM
Mar 2016
The Superdelegates are being used as a way to disenfranchise the people's vote in the Democratic primary.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
10. We'll have to ask all our radicals, commies, racists,
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:17 PM
Mar 2016

misogonysts, Trump supporters, etc. if they want to remain friends with Clintonites. I'll let you know.

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
11. He has been shilling for Hillary from the start. He even laughed at and belittled Bernie regularly
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:22 PM
Mar 2016

on progressive radio. He could have helped build the movement, but instead chose to hinder it from the beginning.
These self appointed overlords of all things political make me question their motives.
DLC is a rotting carcass, time to move on Markos Moulitsas. Try to regain some credibility while you still can.

LonePirate

(13,437 posts)
28. Can you link a couple of his articles where he shills for HRC and/or trashes Bernie?
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 02:28 PM
Mar 2016

Should be easy if he has done it regularly as you suggest.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
12. What's that "2024" bullshit?
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:27 PM
Mar 2016

Is this guy somehow misinformed about the length of presidential terms in the US? I would hope we have some "great liberals to choose from" by 2020. Hillary Clinton may get elected by default this year, but that doesn't mean we can't start planning to get rid of her after one term (assuming she isn't impeached and removed from office before then).

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
15. Good luck with that
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:32 PM
Mar 2016

You see how the DNC has stacked the deck against Bernie in this primary season and actually think there could be a significant primary challenge to sitting President Hillary Clinton in 2020?

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
16. if she pulls out a squeaker
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:33 PM
Mar 2016

then she will be nominee in 2020.the day of incumbent president being defeated in primary is over.

If she loses in november then 2020.problem is which dem can unite people after most supported clinton in 2016.meaning they aren't real liberals or progressives.Untill corporate dems are given the boot nothing will change.democratic party would rather lose with
clinton than actully win an election.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
19. The DNC and corporate Democrats realize that if Bernie wins
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:45 PM
Mar 2016

he is going to do everything he can to bring public pressure on them to either reform (which they will never do) or be purged. I think they would rather see a Republican President to have a boogyman as a common enemy and maintain their power.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
21. except they won't have any power
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:55 PM
Mar 2016

trump or clinton will led to demise of democratic party.

with trump GOP gets total control of government.with gerrymandering and citizen's united and MSM GOP will have good 2018 midterm.maybe dems could have a comeback but so many dems in power told progressives to screw off to support clinton.so
they agree with her anti union pro-freetrade pro corporation pro national security state anti-civil rights anti-social safety net pro-
war stances.

If clinton gets by in squeaker against trump she has republican congress and she will sign gop bills on things they agree with just like her husband.meanwhile dems get massacured in 2018 midterm assuring gop control of house till at least 2032.possibly decades to come.

Dems may have less power than they had during bush's time in white house.this time no way they can ever win a midterm.

 

Ivan Kaputski

(528 posts)
38. We learned last time that they never planned to follow the populist progresive agenda
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 05:18 PM
Mar 2016

that was spoken about in those campaign speeches. They told us lies to get our votes and threw us under the bus the day after the election. It's not going to happen this time. The disenfranchised Dems will not vote or vote 3rd party or they will vote for Rump just to fuck over the establishment.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
14. Broken Centrist Record
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:31 PM
Mar 2016

“If you want the most liberal government possible, we aren’t going to get that this cycle..."

Never,. never,never.....it's a broken record trotted out every election cycle to stomp out progressive change.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
22. I could easily get over petty "rah-rah team" squabbles
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:56 PM
Mar 2016

This is about the fundamentals of the Democratic Party. The divide is not bridgeable.

onecaliberal

(32,985 posts)
27. There is no fucking way I'm doing anything before I GET TO FUCKING VOTE.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 02:26 PM
Mar 2016

I'm sick of assholes thinking it should be done before we all vote, to those I say, fuck you!

PatrickforO

(14,604 posts)
29. This country is one election away from going fascist (should Trump win), or at best maybe
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 02:37 PM
Mar 2016

five to ten years from real pitchfork-style revolution.

Sure, the establishment machine can try and hold Bernie and his supporters down, and it might work this time out.

BUT, we Bernie supporters are TIRED of getting fucked every which way but loose by Third Way corporatists. We are, in effect, well informed and angry.

By contrast, Trump supporters are ignorant and angry.

The commonality here is 'angry.' If we don't get tossed some REAL bones, like single payer healthcare, stronger social security and free college tuition, the oligarchs are doing nothing but blindly moving themselves closer to being violently removed from power by mobs of angry people. Hopefully I'll be dead by then because I don't want to be part of such a mob, or the victim of a Robespierre like terror once the mob wins.

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
35. So Kos is going to be a tool for the Third Way,corporate Wall Street alliance...
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 03:01 PM
Mar 2016

...too bad. Considering how many states have not had their say...this is regrettable

PeterK

(9 posts)
37. Bernie supporters dont have time on their side
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 05:07 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie supporters do not have what it takes for a revolution you need time.. Consisting of mostly young adults following the crowd. You think giving Hillary half a fight for the nominee is a revolution. What will you accomplish nothing. It will take two terms with Bernie as president to get anything at all done. that's assuming we come out strong and vote in off years. I like Bernie always have always will. It will surprise me if he pushes after the 15th. He is a smart man with common sense.
Donald Trump has no prayer of winning the Republican Nomination. He will be embarrassed in the coming weeks. Soon his rally will be a mix of democrats and republicans trashing him. In the end his response will be the normal i did fantastic i was not a politician, i was not supposed to do anything i thought i did very well . Ted Cruz is what the democrats should be focused on not Clinton Trump.

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