2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary's debate answer on fracking
I live in NY's southern tier over a part of the Marcellus shale that was ground zero in NY's battle against fracking.
What struck me most about Hillary's "safe fracking" answer is how much it was like the gas companies' propaganda. In fact, Hillary gave almost the exactly same answer scores of my local REPUBLICAN politicians gave over the years. The only thing different about Hillary's answer is she wants to know what chemicals are in the gas companies "proprietary" frack fluids.
To make my point, here is one example from Energy in Depth which is one group that spews out pro-fracking propaganda for the industry. I am not encouraged that Hillary's answer is basically that of Republican Debbie Preston who is probably one of the dumbest human beings on the planet.
http://energyindepth.org/marcellus/debra-preston-has-all-the-facts/
People should make no mistake about it... Hillary Inc. has been bought by Big Oil and Gas.
TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts)Lone_Wolf
(1,603 posts)HVHF is now banned in NY thanks to Andrew Cuomo, but that can quickly change when we get a new governor.
H2O Man
(73,605 posts)I thought that she was quoting old Tom Libous for a moment there.
When I heard her answer, I was like, "Wow, I have heard this answer before from Republicans!"
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)In fact, I now call him Senator Al Fracking. He thinks it is very safe and healthy to do, as long as it is not around himself or Frannie. Al says 'I'm rich so you'll be fine!'
randr
(12,414 posts)exactly what Bernie wants to stop.
Lone_Wolf
(1,603 posts)n/t
Octafish
(55,745 posts)By Mariah Blake
MotherJones | September/October 2014 Issue
EXCERPT...
Clinton, who was sworn in as secretary of state in early 2009, believed that shale gas could help rewrite global energy politics. "This is a moment of profound change," she later told a crowd at Georgetown University. "Countries that used to depend on others for their energy are now producers. How will this shape world events? Who will benefit, and who will not? The answers to these questions are being written right now, and we intend to play a major role." Clinton tapped a lawyer named David Goldwyn as her special envoy for international energy affairs; his charge was "to elevate energy diplomacy as a key function of US foreign policy."
Goldwyn had a long history of promoting drilling overseasboth as a Department of Energy official under Bill Clinton and as a representative of the oil industry. From 2005 to 2009 he directed the US-Libya Business Association, an organization funded primarily by US oil companiesincluding Chevron, Exxon Mobil, and Marathonclamoring to tap Libya's abundant supply. Goldwyn lobbied Congress for pro-Libyan policies and even battled legislation that would have allowed families of the Lockerbie bombing victims to sue the Libyan government for its alleged role in the attack.
According to diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks, one of Goldwyn's first acts at the State Department was gathering oil and gas industry executives "to discuss the potential international impact of shale gas." Clinton then sent a cable to US diplomats, asking them to collect information on the potential for fracking in their host countries. These efforts eventually gave rise to the Global Shale Gas Initiative, which aimed to help other nations develop their shale potential. Clinton promised it would do so "in a way that is as environmentally respectful as possible."
But environmental groups were barely consulted, while industry played a crucial role. When Goldwyn unveiled the initiative in April 2010, it was at a meeting of the United States Energy Association, a trade organization representing Chevron, Exxon Mobil, and ConocoPhillips, all of which were pursuing fracking overseas. Among their top targets was Poland, which preliminary studies suggested had abundant shale gas. The day after Goldwyn's announcement, the US Embassy in Warsaw helped organize a shale gas conference, underwritten by these same companies (plus the oil field services company Halliburton) and attended by officials from the departments of State and Energy.
In some cases, Clinton personally promoted shale gas. During a 2010 gathering of foreign ministers in Washington, DC, she spoke about America's plans to help spread fracking abroad. "I know that in some places [it] is controversial," she said, "but natural gas is the cleanest fossil fuel available for power generation today." She later traveled to Poland for a series of meetings with officials, after which she announced that the country had joined the Global Shale Gas Initiative.
CONTINUED...
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron
PS: Remember, this was when prices were good (and high).
randr
(12,414 posts)specifically supporting fracking. Thousands of poor people in third world countries are suffering extreme health problems thanks to her efforts.
As a lifelong Democrat this alone disqualifies her in my mind.
Lone_Wolf
(1,603 posts)n/t
insta8er
(960 posts)interest, you have to dance around the answer like Hillary just did.