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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCornel West: Bernie, Hillary or Revolution in the Streets?
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/3/9/bernie_hillary_or_revolution_in_the
AMY GOODMAN: Interestingly, most people are staying home. Now, I hate to rain on anyones parade, but even with all of the attention, looking at Pew Research on whos coming out to vote, through the first 12 primaries of 2016, combined Republican turnout has been 17.3 percent of eligible voters, and thats the highest number since anyof any year since 1980. Only 17.3 percent of the eligible voters. Democratic turnout so far is 11.7 percent. That means, you know, close to 90 percent are not participating, the highest since 1992 with the notable exception of the extraordinarily high turnout in 2008. Now, in Michigan, Democratic vote was up, and certainly Republican vote was up. But that shows you how low it has been. Most countries, vast majority of people vote in the industrialized world. In the United States, if we have half the people votingand these numbers are 17 percent of Republicans, 11 percent of Democrats.
CORNEL WEST: No, its a sign of the democracy thats anemic. Its a sign that people just know the system is rigged. Its a sign that they know big money dictates and shapes the destiny of the government and the society. Unfortunately, the dominant response is one of staying away rather than trying to participate and reshape it. So we can understand, in a certain sense, the apathy, but the apathy is in no way justified. Weve got to participate, not just in the ballot box, but, as Sister Melina says, weve got to hit the streets. Weve gotwe have to have organizing and mobilizing and have to be willing to go to jail. And some of us, actually, have to be willing to die.
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Cornel West: Bernie, Hillary or Revolution in the Streets? (Original Post)
kgnu_fan
Mar 2016
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JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)1. Dangerous rhetoric.
Some of us have to be willing to die?
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)4. That is what happens
when the rich become greedy overlords.....history tends to repeat itself from time to time....
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)6. Gotta laugh at anyone who...
Isnt willing to lead by example on their own dangerous rhetoric.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)11. Let them eat cake
LexVegas
(6,099 posts)2. The only advocate worse than Killer Mike is Cornel West.nt
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)3. Already many people are killed on the street. Don't ignore.
CORNEL WEST: But, Sister Dolores, Doloresbut, Sister Dolores, you know that that kind of language against precious black youth is not just vicious, it justified the expansion of an ugly prison system, those families that were broken, those folk who they brought in, incarcerated, their lives often destroyed. So it is not just a matter of speech and having a conference; were talking about a language tied to actual policy. Same is true with welfare in 1996. We were there together. They pulled the rug from under poor people. That was Hillary giving speeches for that, too. And they had what? A black woman, when Clintons signing the bill, doing what? Falling right into the demonizing and vilification of black women. And you say, "Well, black people are voting for them." But black people often vote against their interests following a "misleadership class"the wonderful language of Glen Ford and the others.
So we have to be honest, just at the level of morality and spirituality, since were bothwere both religious, too. And thats why I cant see Hillary having the kind of integrity and conviction Bernie Sanders, one of the reasons why he has trouble in Congress is, Congress is site of legalized bribery and normalized corruption. So you dont have integrity in Congress. Thats why youve got 8 percent of Americans who approve of Congress. They dont have the truth telling. They dont have the justice witnessing that one would want. Bernie Sanders does. He cuts against that grain.
And now that weve won in Michigan, were going to turn this corner. Were going to bring the neoliberal era to a close, my sister. Were going to fight the neofascism of Trump in the name of neopopulism. And were going to invite you to get on the Bernie Sanders love train.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)8. "The Bernie Sanders love train"
His entire campaign is about anger, cynicism, and "us vs them".
And then there are the Berniebros....
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)5. Professor West has lost the thread
Good lord.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)7. "And some of us, actually, have to be willing to die."
And then he added "I will salute their sacrifice from my expensive home in Cambridge."
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)9. Dude makes $40,000 per speech.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)10. "Let's you and him fight!"...
West is a joke.
Sid
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)14. Can you imagine if one of Hillary's foremost surrogates said that?
"And some of us, actually, have to be willing to die."
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)12. DAmn, Cornel West has lost his mind!
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)13. Desperation speaks loudly. nt
Octafish
(55,745 posts)15. Because nothing says ''Democracy'' like ''Shut up.
CORNEL WEST: No, its a sign of the democracy thats anemic. Its a sign that people just know the system is rigged. Its a sign that they know big money dictates and shapes the destiny of the government and the society. Unfortunately, the dominant response is one of staying away rather than trying to participate and reshape it. So we can understand, in a certain sense, the apathy, but the apathy is in no way justified. Weve got to participate, not just in the ballot box, but, as Sister Melina says, weve got to hit the streets. Weve gotwe have to have organizing and mobilizing and have to be willing to go to jail. And some of us, actually, have to be willing to die.
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)16. The elite class sucks blood from people of 99%. Leave them dead.
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)17. This needs to be told again. nt