2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow many Super Pacs does Bernie have?
Should be no secret by now that one of my main beefs with Sanders is the bald faced lies he tells. For instance, he was never a champion of LGBT rights; he did vote against the auto bailout; he did vote for mass incarceration; he has voted against immigration reform; none of his pay-fors on his bills actually add up (and he knows it), etc.etc.
One of his most annoying lies that he repeats over and over is that he does not have a super pac. He has three, at least. Here's the new one, put together with his own former staff members. His pants are on fire!
http://time.com/4261350/bernie-sanders-super-pac-alaska-millenials/
"Americas Youth PAC was technically founded last year but was largely inactive until it hired a flush of new staff and endorsed Sanders on March 10. It draws its team almost exclusively on former Sanders campaign staffers who worked for the campaign as recently as last week. Its executive director, Johnson, was until last last Monday Sanders field director in Alaska, a top position in the state. Anthony Garcia, another super PAC staffer, was Sanders Alaska deputy field director. Jacob Daruvala, who is the super PACs communications director, worked under Johnson as a field organizer."
bravenak
(34,648 posts)They are already extra annoying on campus... Now this! Why me?
I have a landline so I KNOW they will be bugabooing.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)My time-out gave me a chance to find some great alternative websites.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I found some good stuff too.
Had a blast!!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)He tells this lie at every stump speech:
http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000003969889/bernie-sanders-on-super-pacs.html
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)Qutzupalotl
(14,331 posts)That makes it sound like he coordinates with them or controls them in any way, which he can't.
The Nurses PAC is not funded by billionaires.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)Maybe you haven't heard but campaigns can't have anything to do with superpacs??
Qutzupalotl
(14,331 posts)and can't stop their free speech. He is not beholden to them or to any billionaires.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)But he's still utilizing a suoerpac in the same manner as every other candidate is he not? Who do you think is paying for all those ads. Hell at this point he needs to be thanking Rove's PAC as well
Qutzupalotl
(14,331 posts)yardwork
(61,712 posts)LexVegas
(6,098 posts)giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)Trust can't be bought .
He says he doesnt take money from Sperpacs and he doesnt. He cannot help that these seperate pacs have taken up his cause. He doesnt have mind control. He only controls his campaign which does not take money from superpacs. He is not beholden to them. Its not hard.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)NO candidate is allowed to take funds from a Super Pac. That's illegal. His lie is that he is telling you Clinton has Super Pacs spending on her behalf but that no one is doing the same for him.
AND THAT IS SIMPLY A LIE!
However, I can see now why he can so easily lie to his fans.
Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)I agree with Sanders on a ton of issues, but his silly game of trying to hold himself out as holier than thou is just annoying.
He's a politician. There's nothing wrong with that. I agree that money currently has too much influence on the system, but unilaterally disarming is plain dumb. You play by the rules that currently exist and work within the existing structure to change things.
I'm as thrilled as anyone that HRC basically wrapped it all up this week, but there's a TINY part of me that would have liked to see Sanders win the nomination, just to see how people would react when he realized that you can't win a GE with $10 donations.
BainsBane
(53,072 posts)which is a violation of federal campaign finance law. That's also in the article.