There is no excuse for HRC to NOT release the transcripts.

[Ken Burch]

And it isn't strength for her to stonewall on this.

It's the RIGHT that does secrecy...we're supposed to be transparent.

[NanceGreggs]

1. Bernie's losing.

We get it.

[w4rma]

2. Hillary's supporters don't care about corruption.

They just want to "win". Even though their candidate has a far worse chance of actually "winning" than Sanders does.

And in many cases they support and profit from the corruption.

[Firebrand Gary]

6. If that were actually true, wouldn't he be winning now?

[eridani]

10. Independents are now 40% of the electorate, and Sanders is winning them at the 70% level n/t

[pdsimdars]

17. You are wrong!!! The Independents are 42% of the electorate!

[eridani]

39. OK, I rounded it off. So sue me! n/t

[pdsimdars]

41. I was just being funny. . . . pushing that last 2% into their faces

[redstateblues]

30. Sill waiting for proof of quid pro quo

until then it's a smear

[Ken Burch]

4. It has nothing to do with how the primaries are going.

It doesn't help HRC to hide that stuff.

Just get it out there and be transparent.

Secrecy isn't supposed to be something OUR side does.

[NanceGreggs]

49. It has EVERYTHING to do ..

... with how the primaries are going.

The transcripts weren't even a blip on anyone's radar until Chuck Todd raised the topic - in the beginning of February. Since then, every time it becomes more apparent that Bernie isn't going to win the nomination, the topic gets dredged up again.

If those speech transcripts are SO vitally important, why haven't the Bernie supporters been asking for them all along? HRC's been in the race since last April - and yet this vitally important issue wasn't raised for TEN MONTHS.

What's transparent here is that it is only BSers who are interested in the transcripts, hoping against hope there is a "gotcha!" comment or two they can exploit to damage HRC.

Bernie cannot win on his own merits. That's why his supporters are down to looking for "gotchas!" and/or pushing the idea that Hillary is going to be indicted any minute now. They have nothing else.

[pdsimdars]

16. In other words, you acknowledge that if she releases them she would lose.

It shows that you don't have much faith in her honesty, right?

Because you KNOW that there are things in there that would damage her, better go with secrecy and deflection.

She has a "trust" issue with voters shown in every poll. Seeing that she has so much Wall Street money personally, for the foundation and for her campaign. It is only common sense that people would want to know about her relationship with them. If there was no problem, there is no reason not to release them. Bernie released his the next day easy-peasy. No problemo.

All we get from non-trustworthy, non-transparent Hillary is crickets and/or deflection, excuses. Have we gotten to sexism yet?

Anyway, if you trusted her, if you knew there was nothing that would be a problem in them, you would not be deflecting. What's the problem as you see it? Anything? Or just the smug "we get it".

What is it that you get? You don't see any reason voters might want to know who they are electing? Might want to know about what she says to the people who have been her supporters for 10s of Millions of dollars throughout the years?

If you don't believe voters should be interested, then you are being disingenuous at the least.

[NanceGreggs]

38. What are you ON about?

Where did I acknowledge any such thing?

[pdsimdars]

42. It's called logic. . . look into it.

That thing that critical thinking is about.

[NanceGreggs]

43. I posted "Bernie is losing."

Your response: "So you acknowledge that if she releases them she would lose."

And you're lecturing me about logic?

[basselope]

44. And Hillary can't win the general election

We get it.

[NanceGreggs]

48. And if you post that ...

... another 100,000 times on the internetz, it still won't be true.

But enjoy yourself.

[basselope]

51. My posting it doesn't make it true or false.. it is true b/c she can't win.

It's simple math, really.

I can guarantee you she will not be the next president.

[NanceGreggs]

52. I'm sure you can prove it with an Etch-a-Sketch. n/t

[basselope]

53. I've proved it several times.

Clintonites failure to understand simple math is their problem.

I am working to get the proper candidate nominate, and if not just hunker down for 4 years of Trump before we can get a decent candidate to run.

[NanceGreggs]

54. Oh, yes, of course.

Mm hmm, okay.

Yeah.

[basselope]

55. You know it is true.

Deep down inside, we both know you do.

[CBGLuthier]

3. Oh come on now, lot's of excuses

"I left them in my other mansion."
"They are owned, just like me, by the people I gave them to."

[Solid Snake1]

5. Fact is

No one but Bernie supporters gives a rats ass about her transcripts. They are irrelevant. She has every right to make money from speaking.

[pugetres]

7. I remember waiting for Romney to release his tax returns

and wondering what the delay was. I also remember my husband saying that we need to wait, that he most likely had filed for an extension and that we wouldn't hear anything until after the extension date had passed and the final paperwork was turned in.

Clinton doesn't have the benefit of extensions. She cannot adjust anything after the fact in the case of her speeches. It seems obvious that she doesn't want to own her words and she will not as a matter of course.

[GummyBearz]

25. "She cannot adjust anything after the fact in the case of her speeches"

hahaha... yea right

[Art_from_Ark]

40. I remember waiting for Nixon to release his tapes

And shortly after they finally were released, it was Hello, President Ford.

[Surya Gayatri]

8. Unrec.

[Segami]

9. Thanks for the bump!

Please come again.

[Orsino]

11. Well, no excuse that doesn't reek of mere political calculation.

But she's looking into it.

[DanTex]

12. She doesn't need an "excuse". Nobody cares except some far-lefties on the internet.

[Ken Burch]

20. Nobody here is a "far-lefty".

The "far left" are people like the Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade...not Sanders supporters. None of us favor anything that is unacceptably radical.

[DanTex]

23. I beg to differ. Anyone who can't tell the huge difference between HRC and Trump is a far lefty.

[jfern]

13. Even in the absolute best case for her

They are going to contain some embarassing praise for TPP.

[Kaleva]

14. The people demanding release of the transcripts have no intention of voting for her

How many Bernie supporters would switch their support to Hillary if she released the transcripts? Zero?

About the only people interested in the transcripts are those who never did and never will support Hillary.

[pdsimdars]

18. Voters want to know who they are voting for

Stop making excuses. . . there is no reason not to release them.
The ONLY reason Hillary defenders are rationalizing like this is because they KNOW that what she said will damage her. If not, why not release them?
YOU KNOW IT WILL DAMAGE HER. So you know she is lying and you are enabling her, because you know she is lying.

[Kaleva]

24. Like I said, the only people who care about this are those who won't vote for Hillary...

under any circumstances.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

47. is there anything about her that you question?

...

[pdsimdars]

15. Sure there is. . . she will definitely lose if she releasese them. . . otherwise she might only lose

[BernieforPres2016]

19. She's not stonewalling on this

When is the last time the press asked her to release the transcripts? Everybody knows what's in the speeches. Companies didn't pay her $225,000 to insult them. She and Bill are on the take and everybody knows it, including their supporters.

[randome]

26. Just like Lady Gaga and Jerry Seinfeld, right?

I wonder what they gave Goldman-Sachs in return for their $200,000 speeches?

The reality is that GS does these kind of events all the time. There are no super-villain, Faustian bargains going on. It's just entertainment.
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[frylock]

35. Everyone knows how influential Lady Gaga and Jerry Seinfeld are in world politics.

I forget, what ticket is Seinfeld running on for President?

[randome]

50. My point is that these kind of speeches are routine for GS.

It's a fever dream of finding the quote where Clinton says, "I will funnel money to you personally if you promise to take away as many American jobs as possible."

And it's not even funny any longer coming from the group that said issues are all that's important. Well, this isn't an issue, it's a hope born from the certainty of losing. Get your act together, Sanders supporters. There are still issues to be discussed.
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[redstateblues]

31. still no poof of quid pro quo-still waiting

just another smear

[seabeyond]

21. There is no reason for Clinton to release transcripts.

[Lone_Wolf]

22. She's waiting for the Repukes to lead the way

Typical of her.

[Tarc]

27. No one cares about speech transcripts, except for Sanders supporters

There is no incentive or really a valid reason to release them.

[JoePhilly]

28. This dead horse is never going to run faster.

[Lizzie Poppet]

29. This late in the game, I couldn't care less about the transcripts.

So long after the initial clamor for them, there's zero reason to believe anything released now hasn't been carefully scrubbed.

Besides, it's not like they'd convince anyone on either side to change their opinion of Hillary.

[Gomez163]

32. How about she doesn't need to because Bernie's over?

[lumberjack_jeff]

34. Right, because secret promises to Wall Street are what we progressives demand of presidents. n/t

[Gomez163]

36. No. The race is over. Hillary does not have to answer to him

[lumberjack_jeff]

37. Nor us either, apparently. nt

[basselope]

46. Yeah, Clinton doesn't have to answer to ANYONE.

The delusions of a Clintonite.

[lumberjack_jeff]

33. She doesn't have "excuses", she has *reasons*.

Because if we know what she promised, we wouldn't vote for her.

Seems fairly obvious, but deductive logic isn't what it once was.

[basselope]

45. What Clinton fails to grasp is that the speeches will be released

She either does it now or, much like Romney's 47% comment, video from the event will surface when it will BEST HELP the GOP.

What a great way to depress her voter turnout by having these speeches released in October w/o her consent.

[Attorney in Texas]

56. She saving them for the general election!

Let's preempt that decision!

[Onlooker]

57. She's not an idiot

She's not going to release the transcripts anymore than Bernie would release his college papers. Let's face it, whatever she released will be scrutinized by the opposition for anything that could be construed as negative. If she releases the transcripts, she puts the interpretation of them into the hands of her political opponents. She's not an idiot.

Perhaps the Hillary campaigns response to this piece of politics by Sanders people is to agree to release them provided Bernie releases his college papers.